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Old Nov 7, 2015 | 09:07 PM
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Acceleration on 2012 E63

My 2012 E63 with performance pack cannot and will not spin the rear wheels.....at all. It's weird how my E55 could roast the tires at will but the Biturbo takes off like a normal E350.
Yes for those who ask, I had the traction control completely disabled. I even brake torqued and barely got a whimper from the rear wheels.

Is that what others are getting? I am new to the Biturbo

Edit: Are others getting any wheelspin just stomping the gas in the 2012/2013 E63 biturbo? I live at sea level with Temps in the 70s this week. You won't find a whole lot better environment for cars than here and now.

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Old Nov 7, 2015 | 09:10 PM
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Old Nov 7, 2015 | 09:49 PM
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No I don't think I have, I did clear a ecu code earlier this week, but I just realized it's back.

Code is P2263 turbo boost performance
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 09:29 AM
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I have the same setup I believe, performance pack / etc. Not sure why but I can bark the tires thru 3rd gear.
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Originally Posted by UNCReed
I have the same setup I believe, performance pack / etc. Not sure why but I can bark the tires thru 3rd gear.
So with traction control off, you can stomp the accelerator and get wheelspin through 3rd gear?
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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I have the same setup I believe, performance pack / etc. Not sure why but I can bark the tires thru 3rd gear.
Hi. Quick question. Do you have the factory LSD? Does anyone know if this has to do with wheel spring on full throttle acceleration vs. no wheel spring?
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 02:42 PM
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I do have factory lsd, but even with wavetrac lsd, my e55 spun like crazy
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I do have factory lsd, but even with wavetrac lsd, my e55 spun like crazy
Not for certain, but it could be the LSD. My spun on factory setup and with my upgrades, I can light them up through 5 gear. Almost like double clutching the manual transmission on the old school mustangs.
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Maybe this turbo boost problem is entirely related and you're not generating the torque

Also what's your tire pressure in the rear
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Maybe this turbo boost problem is entirely related and you're not generating the torque

Also what's your tire pressure in the rear
37psi

Going in this week to check out that code.

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Maybe it's normal because my car is the same way, yet I can still run a 12.2 in the quarter mile so I'm not complaining. I think a lot of it depends on the tires. When I got the car it had mostly worn out Continental 5p tires and they would light up at will. Then I switched over to Bridgestone Pole Position S04 tires and the car just plants when I get on it with no wheelspin even with traction control off like yours.

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That's odd. I believe tire has some to do with the wheel spin, but when I had my old Perelli tires, they light up pretty easy and with the 2 month old Michelin pilot sport, I can still smoke the tires, just not as long. In MS mode and traction off, I am able to get some wheel spin up to 5th gear.
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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 2012 merc amg
Maybe it's normal because my car is the same way, yet I can still run a 12.2 in the quarter mile so I'm not complaining. I think a lot of it depends on the tires. When I got the car it had mostly worn out Continental 5p tires and they would light up at will. Then I switched over to Bridgestone Pole Position S04 tires and the car just plants when I get on it with no wheelspin even with traction control off like yours.
I really hope so. If so, tune will be much livable and much faster.

What is your trap speeds at that 12.2? I could do a 12.2 with my old 55 stock...

I'm taking it in this week to check out the turbo performance code that comes on from time to time, after which it's going on a dyno to confirm that I do have 550bhp.

What are the P30 performance pack guys getting on the dyno anyways?
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Have you reset the adaptations?
How do you reset adaptations on this car?
I used to do that with my Star system, haven't hooked that up on this one yet.
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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
That's odd. I believe tire has some to do with the wheel spin, but when I had my old Perelli tires, they light up pretty easy and with the 2 month old Michelin pilot sport, I can still smoke the tires, just not as long. In MS mode and traction off, I am able to get some wheel spin up to 5th gear.
5th gear..... Are you tuned?
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5th gear..... Are you tuned?
Yes I am. I got the AMS Alpha 9 tune.
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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Davidkuo0330
Yes I am. I got the AMS Alpha 9 tune.
Ahh well not exactly the same as my situation ;-)

I have always felt like the car is soft, I assumed because it was a turbo it felt lower on torque than my 55. I am dropping it off today and see what happens.
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Ahh well not exactly the same as my situation ;-)

I have always felt like the car is soft, I assumed because it was a turbo it felt lower on torque than my 55. I am dropping it off today and see what happens.
I would have the dealer check your boost to see if it's up to par and have a dyno.

My stock P30 was smoking tires without the tune. I would suggest bring up to 39-40psi on the tires. Do you have the stock wheels and tires?

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How do you reset adaptations on this car?
I used to do that with my Star system, haven't hooked that up on this one yet.
1 - Key in position "2" (just before ignition)
2 - Push the gas pedal all the way to the floor (past the click point) and hold it there for a minimum of 5 seconds.
3 - Still keeping the pedal all the way down, return the key to the off/"0" position.
4 - After the key is in the "0" position you can let the pedal up.
5 - Stay in the vehicle (don't open any doors/windows and leave the radio off) for 2 minutes. You should hear something whirring from the dash when it's done.
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Thanks guys for all your help, problem solved. Vacuum hose to one of the turbo's was disconnected disabling the wastegate. Dealer hooked it back up and tires lit up right away.

Dealer will be sending ecu off for Renntech tune after I get back from out of the country, should make things a bit more interesting
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Thanks guys for all your help, problem solved. Vacuum hose to one of the turbo's was disconnected disabling the wastegate. Dealer hooked it back up and tires lit up right away.

Dealer will be sending ecu off for Renntech tune after I get back from out of the country, should make things a bit more interesting
Congrats and you will love the tune.
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Thanks. And I was very ready to do Alpha tune, but dealer will be honoring warranty work etc etc.....cant beat that with 700BHP
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Thanks. And I was very ready to do Alpha tune, but dealer will be honoring warranty work etc etc.....cant beat that with 700BHP
It does get at times get side ways on full launch, but who's complaining. Good luck and enjoy.
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