RIP 14 E63 Wagon
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RIP 14 E63 Wagon
Stats: 2014 E63 Wagon (110K new), 3426 miles had it for about a year.
Short version: On 29 December I had to take my son to daycare, the night before was the first snow (real) of the season. It was below 35, the roads were clear. Came around a curve going 25 in a 30, kept going through the curve hit a curb and then a telephone pole (my guess is 20mph). Repair bill , salvage value 32, "worth" 89,919. In MA they add the repair cost and salvage value and if its greater than the "worth" its a total loss.
Long Version: I know it wasn't the smartest idea to drive my car since I still had the stock tires and it was below 35. With that in mind I was driving slower than normal and being as careful as possible. We had just got back from the holidays and were running way behind so I decided to take my son to daycare (we have 4 kids). The roads were clear and as I mentioned before I was coming around a fairly sharp curve. I didn't break but took my foot of the gas and next thing I knew I was looking at a telephone pole and said crap this is going to hurt. Both my steering wheel and knee bags deployed and I got some bruises (impact was driver's side). My son in the back right was scared (and white as a ghost) but fine.
Best I can tell is I hit black ice on the road or the manhole cover, crossed the oncoming lane of traffic. Then impacted the curb with the front wheel, which brought the back end around and jumped the curb. The passenger side rims then hit the curb and basically caused me to ride the curb straight into the telephone pole (basically the driver's side was on the grass/snow and the passenger side on the road). Turns out the was the best outcome I could have had. The other options were jumping the curb, running into a wooden guard rail that was only there to protect a house or missing the guard rail, running down an hill and into raised earth that a house was sitting on). Oh and lucky me, no oncoming traffic.
The funny part was the cop, the tow driver, the salvage yard.. well everyone asked the same question (and it was always the first). From Florida huh (I'm military with FL plates in MA).. my answer is yes but this is my fourth winter here. The second question was, how much is this car worth? My answer, a lot less now
The body shop wrote up the estimate of 58K and told me he was at 11K for just the rims/tires (All had to be replaced). I had him print out the estimate because I was just amazed. Some of the notable damage, steering rack (replace), entire front suspension (replace), rear driver side suspension (replace), all front panels, engine support (replace). And whew new a new steering wheel was 3500 bucks.. yikes. Turns out the impact pushed the driver's side back over 6 inches. I've attached pictures and I'm sure most will ask how that much damage was done based on the pictures.. my answer, ya got me. But when I destroy something I do it well.
Luckily USAA is a great company to work with and made the entire thing painless, well as possible. Although it was apparent they don't total 100K cars much. The appraiser had to send the estimate to his boss, who had to send it to his boss. The guy handling the total loss portion had to send it to his boss as well. So it took almost a month to get through the process.
So what's next for me? Well I just leased a Hyundai Sonata for 3 years because my plan was to have a wagon built with delivery in May/June and needed something cheap to help get everyone around. I had the order in in January and it was just cancelled.. figured that would happen but I had to try. I just loved that car.
My dealer did manage to find another e63 wagon and I'm working to buy that car. Its Diamond white, night styling, carbon fiber trim, black 10 spoke wheels, b&o speakers, acoustic glass, rear seat entertainment, heated rear seats, parking package and distronic. Its loaded for sure and more than what I ordered, but I want another wagon. While it doesn't matter what are everyone's thoughts on the b&o system and the acoustic glass? Those are both options I wouldn't normally get and don't know much about.
Thanks
Edward
Short version: On 29 December I had to take my son to daycare, the night before was the first snow (real) of the season. It was below 35, the roads were clear. Came around a curve going 25 in a 30, kept going through the curve hit a curb and then a telephone pole (my guess is 20mph). Repair bill , salvage value 32, "worth" 89,919. In MA they add the repair cost and salvage value and if its greater than the "worth" its a total loss.
Long Version: I know it wasn't the smartest idea to drive my car since I still had the stock tires and it was below 35. With that in mind I was driving slower than normal and being as careful as possible. We had just got back from the holidays and were running way behind so I decided to take my son to daycare (we have 4 kids). The roads were clear and as I mentioned before I was coming around a fairly sharp curve. I didn't break but took my foot of the gas and next thing I knew I was looking at a telephone pole and said crap this is going to hurt. Both my steering wheel and knee bags deployed and I got some bruises (impact was driver's side). My son in the back right was scared (and white as a ghost) but fine.
Best I can tell is I hit black ice on the road or the manhole cover, crossed the oncoming lane of traffic. Then impacted the curb with the front wheel, which brought the back end around and jumped the curb. The passenger side rims then hit the curb and basically caused me to ride the curb straight into the telephone pole (basically the driver's side was on the grass/snow and the passenger side on the road). Turns out the was the best outcome I could have had. The other options were jumping the curb, running into a wooden guard rail that was only there to protect a house or missing the guard rail, running down an hill and into raised earth that a house was sitting on). Oh and lucky me, no oncoming traffic.
The funny part was the cop, the tow driver, the salvage yard.. well everyone asked the same question (and it was always the first). From Florida huh (I'm military with FL plates in MA).. my answer is yes but this is my fourth winter here. The second question was, how much is this car worth? My answer, a lot less now
The body shop wrote up the estimate of 58K and told me he was at 11K for just the rims/tires (All had to be replaced). I had him print out the estimate because I was just amazed. Some of the notable damage, steering rack (replace), entire front suspension (replace), rear driver side suspension (replace), all front panels, engine support (replace). And whew new a new steering wheel was 3500 bucks.. yikes. Turns out the impact pushed the driver's side back over 6 inches. I've attached pictures and I'm sure most will ask how that much damage was done based on the pictures.. my answer, ya got me. But when I destroy something I do it well.
Luckily USAA is a great company to work with and made the entire thing painless, well as possible. Although it was apparent they don't total 100K cars much. The appraiser had to send the estimate to his boss, who had to send it to his boss. The guy handling the total loss portion had to send it to his boss as well. So it took almost a month to get through the process.
So what's next for me? Well I just leased a Hyundai Sonata for 3 years because my plan was to have a wagon built with delivery in May/June and needed something cheap to help get everyone around. I had the order in in January and it was just cancelled.. figured that would happen but I had to try. I just loved that car.
My dealer did manage to find another e63 wagon and I'm working to buy that car. Its Diamond white, night styling, carbon fiber trim, black 10 spoke wheels, b&o speakers, acoustic glass, rear seat entertainment, heated rear seats, parking package and distronic. Its loaded for sure and more than what I ordered, but I want another wagon. While it doesn't matter what are everyone's thoughts on the b&o system and the acoustic glass? Those are both options I wouldn't normally get and don't know much about.
Thanks
Edward
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Its hard to tell, but the front wheels are not pointing in the same direction, the back wheel is shifted to the back and angled out. And like I said doesn't look like much to me anyway.
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Here is why the car was totaled. In Alabama (for example) if the damage exceeds 75% of the worth a car is totaled, however in MA (and FL) they use something called "Total Loss Formula" (TLF) which is Cost of Repair + Salvage Value > Actual Cash Value. In my case the repair cost was 58K, the salvage was 32K and the actual cash value was 89,919 so they totaled the car since repair and salvage was 90K. What I don't know is how future damages factored in and the estimate was the original. They never started to actually work on the car so there was more damage they hadn't found yet.
#7
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From: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Mercedes SL63 AMG; Mercedes E63 AMG S 4matic; Mercedes C43 AMG; Mercedes S Class, Mercedes GLK
Snow tires are obviously better than not, but having grown up in eastern Ontario, black ice will get you regardless of the tires on your vehicle.
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Consider posting the vin for future searches by potential buyers. Your description of the facts surrounding the crash and insurance situation may help them better decide...
Glad your kiddo was ok!
Glad your kiddo was ok!
#9
Also glad you and your son were fine. I'm also surprised at the appearance of the car, from your description I expected it to look much worse. This will get salvage title but I could see someone buying it to fix and resell. Glad carfax exists!
Snow tires are obviously better than not, but having grown up in eastern Ontario, black ice will get you regardless of the tires on your vehicle.
Snow tires are obviously better than not, but having grown up in eastern Ontario, black ice will get you regardless of the tires on your vehicle.
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Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Everett, WA
14 E63S Wagon, 16 GTS Edition1 (Sold), 17 SL450 designo edition
While acoustic glass was not yet an option on my early ordered 2014 wagon I did pop for the optional B&O system. It's a nice system to be sure but at $5,500 at the time I would not order it again.
Sorry about your loss.
#12
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Joined: Jun 2004
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
F---- the car
Your son and you are FINE and I'm so happy for you on that!!
First world problems now
Snow tires next time ... A good lesson for me too!
Your son and you are FINE and I'm so happy for you on that!!
First world problems now
Snow tires next time ... A good lesson for me too!
#14
Cars can be replaced, lives can not. Glad you all are okay.
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
Like many of us, my friend here David as well, we carry precious cargo ... I have three car seats in the back of my '63S.... 5,4, and 2 year old
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From: SoCal
2016 AMG S65, AMG GL63, 2012 AMG E63 With AMS Alpha 9 Package, Renntech 200 Catted Downpipes.
Honestly Peter. I find me asking myself. Why the F... do I need to drive a fast car. You got 3 and I only have one ( baby ).
OP. Here is a really world problem. What are you getting to replace the wagon?
OP. Here is a really world problem. What are you getting to replace the wagon?
#17
I've already got my replacement... a Hyundai Sonata Figure I can't get into too much trouble... 577hp to 184. I needed something quick and its a good car and was inexpensive. Initially my dealer told me they might be able to get a e63 wagon in June and I had an order in since mid Jan but it got cancelled. He is looking and found a Diamond White wagon but I'm holding my breath until its in route. My salesman is the inventory manager that I've worked with for years (and know well) so I'm not worried about getting yanked around by him, just the other dealer.
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CPOd with 18,800 miles.
#22
I honestly don't remember. I know I didn't hit the steering wheel air bag, but there was no way I didn't hit the knee bag. And if it means anything I didn't bruise and my knees were not all that sore... so I would say it worked well.
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
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Looks like I found one....
Diamond White
Black Interior
Carbon Fiber Trim
AMG Exterior Night Styling
19 inch AMG 10 Spoke - Black
B&O Audio
Laminated Acoustic Glass
Rear Seat Entertainment
Heated Rear Seats
AMG Parking Assistance Package (Surround View)
Driver's Assistance Package
Total: $121,955
I can't have a car without Distronic anymore. I've heard mixed views on the B&O system (I don't think I would build one with the system based on cost)and never seen a car with the acoustic glass. I'm working with my dealer to see what I can get the car for, so we shall see.
But I think the white car with Night Styling and Black wheels should look cool. Thoughts on the build?
Diamond White
Black Interior
Carbon Fiber Trim
AMG Exterior Night Styling
19 inch AMG 10 Spoke - Black
B&O Audio
Laminated Acoustic Glass
Rear Seat Entertainment
Heated Rear Seats
AMG Parking Assistance Package (Surround View)
Driver's Assistance Package
Total: $121,955
I can't have a car without Distronic anymore. I've heard mixed views on the B&O system (I don't think I would build one with the system based on cost)and never seen a car with the acoustic glass. I'm working with my dealer to see what I can get the car for, so we shall see.
But I think the white car with Night Styling and Black wheels should look cool. Thoughts on the build?