Picked up a '16 E63S!
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i mean the initial lag the car has when when flooring the gas pedal from a complete stop. Not the other lags (which don't really bug me much) such as slowing down to a stop sign and then hitting the gas.
But flooring it from a complete stop, normally with no brake torque/RS launch does the 2016 resolve this issue or not, that is the question.
But flooring it from a complete stop, normally with no brake torque/RS launch does the 2016 resolve this issue or not, that is the question.
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i mean the initial lag the car has when when flooring the gas pedal from a complete stop. Not the other lags (which don't really bug me much) such as slowing down to a stop sign and then hitting the gas.
But flooring it from a complete stop, normally with no brake torque/RS launch does the 2016 resolve this issue or not, that is the question.
But flooring it from a complete stop, normally with no brake torque/RS launch does the 2016 resolve this issue or not, that is the question.
I replicated it at will and noticed that the car remained in high gear (4) and didn't downshift while it was barely rolling...
Measured ~1.5 - 2 sec lag between me stepping on accelerator and transmission downshifting.
Tomorrow will try "manual" and see if keeping the beast in right gear helps...
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My 2015 is instantaneous from the full stop, but does have a VERY annoying hesitation when trying to accelerate from rolling speed.
I replicated it at will and noticed that the car remained in high gear (4) and didn't downshift while it was barely rolling...
Measured ~1.5 - 2 sec lag between me stepping on accelerator and transmission downshifting.
Tomorrow will try "manual" and see if keeping the beast in right gear helps...
I replicated it at will and noticed that the car remained in high gear (4) and didn't downshift while it was barely rolling...
Measured ~1.5 - 2 sec lag between me stepping on accelerator and transmission downshifting.
Tomorrow will try "manual" and see if keeping the beast in right gear helps...
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My GT-R had slight throttle lag too when you stomped it at a light or even on launch control. It was much less significant than this car, but still there. I think this is completely normal for cars with a dual clutch transmission. My E55 had none of this at all... because it had a good ol' torque converter.
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My GT-R had slight throttle lag too when you stomped it at a light or even on launch control. It was much less significant than this car, but still there. I think this is completely normal for cars with a dual clutch transmission. My E55 had none of this at all... because it had a good ol' torque converter.
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Peter, can you briefly tell us what the member with a 2016 e63 reported about the throttle lag?
bottom line, do 2016 models still have the lag which the 14/15 models are known to BOTH be equal in?
This TCU torque limit on MCT really ruins an otherwise perfect car. It's t biggest complaint about it from day one.
bottom line, do 2016 models still have the lag which the 14/15 models are known to BOTH be equal in?
This TCU torque limit on MCT really ruins an otherwise perfect car. It's t biggest complaint about it from day one.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ver-stock.html
bottom line I've determined is that the 2016 models have the same lag, but there is a possibility the 2016 models have smoother shifting
in my thread here, some 2016 owners may have commented on the lag:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-annoying.html
Last edited by PeterUbers; Nov 15, 2016 at 01:01 PM.
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My GT-R had slight throttle lag too when you stomped it at a light or even on launch control. It was much less significant than this car, but still there. I think this is completely normal for cars with a dual clutch transmission. My E55 had none of this at all... because it had a good ol' torque converter.
I think its the software in the TCU making this dumb lag, not transmission. If it's transmission I wonder why the w204 12+ c63s don't have the same problem.
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berndV wrote about it at length here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ver-stock.html
bottom line I've determined is that the 2016 models have the same lag, but there is a possibility the 2016 models have smoother shifting
in my thread here, some 2016 owners may have commented on the lag:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-annoying.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ver-stock.html
bottom line I've determined is that the 2016 models have the same lag, but there is a possibility the 2016 models have smoother shifting
in my thread here, some 2016 owners may have commented on the lag:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-annoying.html
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what I don't understand is that the 12+ c63 uses the same MCT transmission as the e63, with no torque converter and I remember stomping it off the line had absolutely no lag at all before it got going. It felt telepathic with the throttle.
I think its the software in the TCU making this dumb lag, not transmission. If it's transmission I wonder why the w204 12+ c63s don't have the same problem.
I think its the software in the TCU making this dumb lag, not transmission. If it's transmission I wonder why the w204 12+ c63s don't have the same problem.
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No no wonder a c63 amg with far less torque has no lag at all before it gets its *** moving from a stoplight.
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Who wants to assume the lease for this beast? PM me if interested! 
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