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Hello forum members - I am the proud new owner of beegee227's 2012 E63 P30 wagon. As evidenced by my username, I've always been a BMW guy. I hate to jump on the recent BMW sentiment bandwagon, but I agree that they have strayed very far from their 'ultimate driving machine' beginnings (notice the question mark in my username as well). Additionally, their interiors have become extremely cost engineered and cheap-feeling. Back in the e46/e39 era, even the base models had solid driving dynamics and felt well built.
With that said, the E63 is replacing my 2008 550i as it is nearing 100k miles, big maintenance is coming up, and it was time for something different as I'd had it since new. I will still be keeping my 2003 540i M-Sport, as I just purchased it last year from the original owner with 37k miles. I took a year to find one in that condition. I am a huge e39 fan.
Anyway, I've been into wagons for years and it's frustrating that Americans have turned to the crossover as their vehicle of choice so the amount of wagon offerings here is so limited. Even though I've been a BMW-only guy up until now, I have to commend Mercedes-Benz very much for offering the E63 wagon in the US.
Now to the wagon: it is insanely beautiful. Obviously wagons in general are great (well for those who like them) but there are a select few that have a greatly cohesive design, and this is one of them. I visited a friend in San Francisco yesterday and was able to get this great picture (Alcatraz is on the right). The interior is perfect with the carbon fiber trim and the engine and exhaust sound like a BEAST. I'm in love.
Hello everyone - I'm glad to be here!
Last edited by Bimmerphile?; Aug 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM.
You should have driven an M car for performance and handling.
A friend of mine has a new M3 and I agree it feels more like the BMWs of old in terms of interior quality and ride, and I'm sure your M5 is the same.
However, my original point was that even a base e46 325i felt of high quality and rode well whereas, in my opinion, the same can't be said for the base F30s I've driven.
Welcome to the club, I've had my 2012 for around 3.5 years and the car is great.
Thank you. Because I just joined I don't think it will let me private message yet (unless I'm just not seeing it) but I'd like to ask you questions about tires sometime.
Last edited by Bimmerphile?; Aug 15, 2016 at 07:09 PM.
FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Welcome! I love cars in wagon form, but not when it is jacked way up as in a SUV. The only downside I see with the E63 wagon in the States is the inability to get one without the pano.
I will miss seeing beegee227s wagon in the morning, but glad you made it to the forum!
I'd love to see that on a Sonoma Raceway or Laguna Seca!
Are you on the peninsula?
Originally Posted by otakki
Welcome! I love cars in wagon form, but not when it is jacked way up as in a SUV. The only downside I see with the E63 wagon in the States is the inability to get one without the pano.
Yes, it's irritating that the only Audi 'wagon' we get is the Allroad. Agreed on the pano roof, if I had a choice I would go without it, but I have to say that I like how it gives rear seat passengers a sense of openness.
Hello forum members - I am the proud new owner of beegee227's 2012 E63 P30 wagon. As evidenced by my username, I've always been a BMW guy. I hate to jump on the recent BMW sentiment bandwagon, but I agree that they have strayed very far from their 'ultimate driving machine' beginnings (notice the question mark in my username as well). .........[TRIM} ..... The interior is perfect with the carbon fiber trim and the engine and exhaust sound like a BEAST. I'm in love.
Hello everyone - I'm glad to be here!
Welcome! We briefly commented in the same Jalopnik thread a few days ago. Congrats again on the new (to you) car!.
Originally Posted by NickyBlack
You should have driven an M car for performance and handling.
I'm a huge fan of M cars and never thought I'd buy a Mercedes. My previous E90 M3 w/ M/T is probably still my favorite car I've ever owned. However, the new F30s and F10s just have a bit too little character for my taste. I really thought I was going to get a new F30 M3 until I rented one for the weekend. I was actually depressed for days (yes, 1st world problems) because it didn't hit the emotional spots that I expected it to and I had completely set my heart on getting a new M3. At this point, I honestly think that the C63 and E63 are all-around better cars than their M counterparts. (Not passing judgement on the M2 since I haven't driven it yet).
Originally Posted by otakki
Welcome! I love cars in wagon form, but not when it is jacked way up as in a SUV. The only downside I see with the E63 wagon in the States is the inability to get one without the pano.
My kids love the pano! But, it's also probably b/c we live in San Francisco and they enjoy looking up at the tall buildings and bridges.
Originally Posted by Bimmerphile?
I'm in Fremont so I likely won't see you on the freeway, but if there's ever a meetup please let me know
Include me on that... though I'm up in SF and have actually only been to Fremont once ever. I do get to San Mateo/Burlingame quite often.
Last edited by CliffJumper; Aug 16, 2016 at 03:48 PM.
[QUOTE=CliffJumper;6889639]Welcome! We briefly commented in the same Jalopnik thread a few days ago. Congrats again on the new (to you) car!.
Thanks!
I'm a huge fan of M cars and never thought I'd buy a Mercedes. My previous E90 M3 w/ M/T is probably still my favorite car I've ever owned. However, the new F30s and F10s just have a bit too little character for my taste. I really thought I was going to get a new F30 M3 until I rented one for the weekend. I was actually depressed for days (yes, 1st world problems) because it didn't hit the emotional spots that I expected it to and I had completely set my heart on getting a new M3. At this point, I honestly think that the C63 and E63 are all-around better cars than their M counterparts. (Not passing judgement on the M2 since I haven't driven it yet).
Looks like you and I have very similar thoughts - we need to meet up.
And here is Sweden wagons are more popular than sedans...So strange that it differs so
That's good to hear - I'm mortified by how popular crossover 'SUVs' are here, but the laws we have don't make sense and impose more fuel economy restrictions on cars from which SUVs, even crossovers (which is silly because they're just tall cars), are exempt. So besides the active lifestyle image people are going for when they buy one, the laws also make it more attractive.
Basically: crossovers are the yoga pants of the car world in the US.
Great choice! Wagons are the way to go. My wife has always ragged on wagons, even though we have had dozens and she always seems to fill the space. This week we had a 2016 loaner from the dealer, an E350 sedan, and she was really impressed with the ride. But…she said it doesn't feel like a big car. No kidding. We live in Vermont with really bad roads, and even in comfort mode the E63 wagon is rough. We have 35k miles on it, so we will have it for a long time. Clearly the S+ mode is not her favorite, but sure as hell is mine. Imagine…a wagon that can wipe our neighbors Aston! Gotta love it.
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