Hello E63 wagon!
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Hello E63 wagon!
Hello forum members - I am the proud new owner of beegee227's 2012 E63 P30 wagon. As evidenced by my username, I've always been a BMW guy. I hate to jump on the recent BMW sentiment bandwagon, but I agree that they have strayed very far from their 'ultimate driving machine' beginnings (notice the question mark in my username as well). Additionally, their interiors have become extremely cost engineered and cheap-feeling. Back in the e46/e39 era, even the base models had solid driving dynamics and felt well built.
With that said, the E63 is replacing my 2008 550i as it is nearing 100k miles, big maintenance is coming up, and it was time for something different as I'd had it since new. I will still be keeping my 2003 540i M-Sport, as I just purchased it last year from the original owner with 37k miles. I took a year to find one in that condition. I am a huge e39 fan.
Anyway, I've been into wagons for years and it's frustrating that Americans have turned to the crossover as their vehicle of choice so the amount of wagon offerings here is so limited. Even though I've been a BMW-only guy up until now, I have to commend Mercedes-Benz very much for offering the E63 wagon in the US.
Now to the wagon: it is insanely beautiful. Obviously wagons in general are great (well for those who like them) but there are a select few that have a greatly cohesive design, and this is one of them. I visited a friend in San Francisco yesterday and was able to get this great picture (Alcatraz is on the right). The interior is perfect with the carbon fiber trim and the engine and exhaust sound like a BEAST. I'm in love.
Hello everyone - I'm glad to be here!
With that said, the E63 is replacing my 2008 550i as it is nearing 100k miles, big maintenance is coming up, and it was time for something different as I'd had it since new. I will still be keeping my 2003 540i M-Sport, as I just purchased it last year from the original owner with 37k miles. I took a year to find one in that condition. I am a huge e39 fan.
Anyway, I've been into wagons for years and it's frustrating that Americans have turned to the crossover as their vehicle of choice so the amount of wagon offerings here is so limited. Even though I've been a BMW-only guy up until now, I have to commend Mercedes-Benz very much for offering the E63 wagon in the US.
Now to the wagon: it is insanely beautiful. Obviously wagons in general are great (well for those who like them) but there are a select few that have a greatly cohesive design, and this is one of them. I visited a friend in San Francisco yesterday and was able to get this great picture (Alcatraz is on the right). The interior is perfect with the carbon fiber trim and the engine and exhaust sound like a BEAST. I'm in love.
Hello everyone - I'm glad to be here!
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A friend of mine has a new M3 and I agree it feels more like the BMWs of old in terms of interior quality and ride, and I'm sure your M5 is the same.
However, my original point was that even a base e46 325i felt of high quality and rode well whereas, in my opinion, the same can't be said for the base F30s I've driven.
However, my original point was that even a base e46 325i felt of high quality and rode well whereas, in my opinion, the same can't be said for the base F30s I've driven.
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Thank you. Because I just joined I don't think it will let me private message yet (unless I'm just not seeing it) but I'd like to ask you questions about tires sometime.
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Welcome to the forum and love your choice...I love my E63 wagon and enjoy it more and more everyday! Now it's time to mode the beast I think!!
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Welcome! I love cars in wagon form, but not when it is jacked way up as in a SUV. The only downside I see with the E63 wagon in the States is the inability to get one without the pano.
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Yes, it's irritating that the only Audi 'wagon' we get is the Allroad. Agreed on the pano roof, if I had a choice I would go without it, but I have to say that I like how it gives rear seat passengers a sense of openness.
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Hello forum members - I am the proud new owner of beegee227's 2012 E63 P30 wagon. As evidenced by my username, I've always been a BMW guy. I hate to jump on the recent BMW sentiment bandwagon, but I agree that they have strayed very far from their 'ultimate driving machine' beginnings (notice the question mark in my username as well). .........[TRIM} ..... The interior is perfect with the carbon fiber trim and the engine and exhaust sound like a BEAST. I'm in love.
Hello everyone - I'm glad to be here!
Hello everyone - I'm glad to be here!
I'm a huge fan of M cars and never thought I'd buy a Mercedes. My previous E90 M3 w/ M/T is probably still my favorite car I've ever owned. However, the new F30s and F10s just have a bit too little character for my taste. I really thought I was going to get a new F30 M3 until I rented one for the weekend. I was actually depressed for days (yes, 1st world problems) because it didn't hit the emotional spots that I expected it to and I had completely set my heart on getting a new M3. At this point, I honestly think that the C63 and E63 are all-around better cars than their M counterparts. (Not passing judgement on the M2 since I haven't driven it yet).
Include me on that... though I'm up in SF and have actually only been to Fremont once ever. I do get to San Mateo/Burlingame quite often.
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[QUOTE=CliffJumper;6889639]Welcome! We briefly commented in the same Jalopnik thread a few days ago. Congrats again on the new (to you) car!.
Thanks!
I'm a huge fan of M cars and never thought I'd buy a Mercedes. My previous E90 M3 w/ M/T is probably still my favorite car I've ever owned. However, the new F30s and F10s just have a bit too little character for my taste. I really thought I was going to get a new F30 M3 until I rented one for the weekend. I was actually depressed for days (yes, 1st world problems) because it didn't hit the emotional spots that I expected it to and I had completely set my heart on getting a new M3. At this point, I honestly think that the C63 and E63 are all-around better cars than their M counterparts. (Not passing judgement on the M2 since I haven't driven it yet).
Looks like you and I have very similar thoughts - we need to meet up.
Thanks!
I'm a huge fan of M cars and never thought I'd buy a Mercedes. My previous E90 M3 w/ M/T is probably still my favorite car I've ever owned. However, the new F30s and F10s just have a bit too little character for my taste. I really thought I was going to get a new F30 M3 until I rented one for the weekend. I was actually depressed for days (yes, 1st world problems) because it didn't hit the emotional spots that I expected it to and I had completely set my heart on getting a new M3. At this point, I honestly think that the C63 and E63 are all-around better cars than their M counterparts. (Not passing judgement on the M2 since I haven't driven it yet).
Looks like you and I have very similar thoughts - we need to meet up.
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That's awesome! There needs to be more wagons in the US. I drive a lot so I have this secret hope that by being more visible people will get into it.
On a separate note, I was on the freeway next to an S4 Avant tonight and we were both appreciating each others' rides. That's how it should be
On a separate note, I was on the freeway next to an S4 Avant tonight and we were both appreciating each others' rides. That's how it should be
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Basically: crossovers are the yoga pants of the car world in the US.
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That's awesome! There needs to be more wagons in the US. I drive a lot so I have this secret hope that by being more visible people will get into it.
On a separate note, I was on the freeway next to an S4 Avant tonight and we were both appreciating each others' rides. That's how it should be
On a separate note, I was on the freeway next to an S4 Avant tonight and we were both appreciating each others' rides. That's how it should be
I don't care what make it is. Fast wagons need to stick together. hahah
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Great choice! Wagons are the way to go. My wife has always ragged on wagons, even though we have had dozens and she always seems to fill the space. This week we had a 2016 loaner from the dealer, an E350 sedan, and she was really impressed with the ride. But…she said it doesn't feel like a big car. No kidding. We live in Vermont with really bad roads, and even in comfort mode the E63 wagon is rough. We have 35k miles on it, so we will have it for a long time. Clearly the S+ mode is not her favorite, but sure as hell is mine. Imagine…a wagon that can wipe our neighbors Aston! Gotta love it.