Help me figure out what's wrong with my tuned/catless E63S. 7.70s at only 93mph!
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as far as timing, im not seeing as much timing being pulled as you're logs are... I get about 3.5 to 8 degrees of advance at wot, high rpm ,high boost
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here's my logs from some runs up to 120 mph today.... i have renntech tune... my logs show max boost topping out at 18 psi which is pretty much what renntech should be (18.8 psi) ... difference probably due to the fact that its a calculated value in the logging app.
as far as timing, im not seeing as much timing being pulled as you're logs are... I get about 3.5 to 8 degrees of advance at wot, high rpm ,high boost
as far as timing, im not seeing as much timing being pulled as you're logs are... I get about 3.5 to 8 degrees of advance at wot, high rpm ,high boost
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Overnighted my ECU back for a re-tune. They stated they went more conservative for 10 degrees advance at WOT up top.
Got it back tonight, did two pulls with again next to no timing advance and car feels weaker than it did stock.
Did a 3rd pull/log and suddenly it bogged and got a bunch of misfire codes. Reset the codes and restarted the engine and gone.
Ill upload the logs....this is getting ridiculous. At this point im about to put my stock downpipes back on and have the dealer reflash it. What a joke.
Got it back tonight, did two pulls with again next to no timing advance and car feels weaker than it did stock.
Did a 3rd pull/log and suddenly it bogged and got a bunch of misfire codes. Reset the codes and restarted the engine and gone.
Ill upload the logs....this is getting ridiculous. At this point im about to put my stock downpipes back on and have the dealer reflash it. What a joke.
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Have you gone over the install of your DP's? Tighten everything back down, check heat shield rattles, nothing is rubbing?
You have timing all over the place. Many times when timing issues and other installs, like dp's/exhaust, occur at the same time, it's a metal-on-metal issue that is being picked up by knock sensors. Not all the time, but it's something that should be checked.
GL.
You have timing all over the place. Many times when timing issues and other installs, like dp's/exhaust, occur at the same time, it's a metal-on-metal issue that is being picked up by knock sensors. Not all the time, but it's something that should be checked.
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And that's good idea also because it can rule out the revised tune completely.
You're on the right path, fuel- re flash-etc, but unfortunately chasing knock is a pita process sometimes.
You're on the right path, fuel- re flash-etc, but unfortunately chasing knock is a pita process sometimes.
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I read somewhere that one of the parameters used to control torque is through throttle plate settings. So you don't always get how much throttle you ask for if the ecu determines the level of torque that puts out is more than it's programmed for at that particular scenario
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when you are at full boost and at top speed of your run you are at 177F @ 106MPH ... i am at 118F @106 mph... I even carried my run up to 117mph and IAT stayed at 118F
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My Stock 2014 cls63s ran 7.5X @ 95.5 on only 10lbs boost so it seems your numbers are low. The IATs also seem high like gaspam said. Mine did the same thing before. when the car is cool check the coolant reservoir on top of the motor make sure its pretty full also there may be an air pocket in the system. When you undo the cap you may get some pressure come out. Thats a good thing because the air will rise to the top of the system when cooled. see if that helps the Iats bc 177 degrees is pulling some timing for sure.
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Just an update that ALL of the issues were rectified with a new tune from a different vendor.
I now have the aggressive tune from Eurocharged and the car runs great, highly recommend them!
I now have the aggressive tune from Eurocharged and the car runs great, highly recommend them!
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I'm sure that was frustrating for you. Glad it got worked out. I'd ask who the original tuner was but I think I recall you not wanting to mention that in a previous post.
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great tune, car drives and feels great also highly recommended.
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its speedriven... I dont know why people try and hide tuners... what if this same thing happened to 100 different people but all 100 stayed quite? what if everyone stayed quite about MHP from back in the day?
not saying they did anything wrong, but no reason not to state who it was
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not saying they did anything wrong, but no reason not to state who it was
Hmmm, could the tuners run more timing advance if we installed Meth injection? Swapping turbos is a pain in the *** and very expensive.
I want to maximize the stock turbos.
Currently have the UPD intake kit, catless downpipes, and a speedriven tune. They told me the intercooler upgrade would be a waste of money on 14+ models. I can pickup about another 20hp with their exhaust however. But I don't really want to lose my black nightstyle package tips and it sounds perfect right now.
I want to maximize the stock turbos.
Currently have the UPD intake kit, catless downpipes, and a speedriven tune. They told me the intercooler upgrade would be a waste of money on 14+ models. I can pickup about another 20hp with their exhaust however. But I don't really want to lose my black nightstyle package tips and it sounds perfect right now.
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Last edited by gaspam; Jan 10, 2017 at 11:08 AM.
