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Old 12-05-2016, 10:39 AM
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well if we are going to start believing results that come out of yas marina (google this track and disputed times) , then i guess we have a new tune/dp only, stock turbo record from 2 yrs ago of 10.6 @ 135.5

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-26260.html
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Originally Posted by gaspam
well if we are going to start believing results that come out of yas marina (google this track and disputed times) , then i guess we have a new tune/dp only, stock turbo record from 2 yrs ago of 10.6 @ 135.5

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-26260.html


and that was done on a private booked day, not like my friend, on a public drag night. that's the difference in reference to your google thing.


and see the car, its fully prepped for drag , check the wheels and tires, and it was on serious weight diet




and again, I raced with this car and beat him although I had my spare tire, a full travelling bag, and a passenger was with me recording,


I am from UAE and I know whats happening and I have every information regarding any of these things that is on google, and even more, with lots of proof. but I am keeping it for my self.


I was sharing how stock turbos have great potential, if they are tuned 100% perfectly.
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I also don't get why are the highest traps showing up for CLS63. The E63 is LIGHTER and when equally modded should be as fast if not faster. I wonder which car has better aerodynamics, maybe that has something to do with it?

Ali, how much did your CLS63 dyno?
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I also don't get why are the highest traps showing up for CLS63. The E63 is LIGHTER and when equally modded should be as fast if not faster. I wonder which car has better aerodynamics, maybe that has something to do with it?

Ali, how much did your CLS63 dyno?


check post 48 on this thread.
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The cls looks more aero but I'm not sure the actual drag coefficient for the e vs cls
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
The cls looks more aero but I'm not sure the actual drag coefficient for the e vs cls
Yeah id love to find the info for the drag coefficient difference between the E and CLS.

Cant seem to find it anywhere.

Anyone know?
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My search reveals the W212 E at 0.25 and the W218 CLS at 0.26.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
My search reveals the W212 E at 0.25 and the W218 CLS at 0.26.
sorry im really not well versed in this.

which number means better .26 or .25?

also, are these numbers for the standard models or the amg variants of each?
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sorry im really not well versed in this.

which number means better .26 or .25?

also, are these numbers for the standard models or the amg variants of each?
Lower is better. These are for standard models but I doubt you'll see a published difference for the AMGs.
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Lower is better. These are for standard models but I doubt you'll see a published difference for the AMGs.
Thanks for that. So the E has both the weight and aerodynamic advantage over the cls.

Funny how at times it looks like cls with same power performs better. Good to know it's not these factors probably just a difference in software tuning.
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Or gears? Any one know the diff ratios on the E vs CLS?
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Or gears? Any one know the diff ratios on the E vs CLS?
can someone please answer this?

Trying to see which factors gives cls at times advantage to outrun the E.
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
can someone please answer this?

Trying to see which factors gives cls at times advantage to outrun the E.
I have said this before...other cars and their drivers like all red blooded men will always prefer to view the rear of an attractive figure they see...its basic instincts ...because when that rear goes left and right...you better be damn sure ur standing behind for a good view
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I have said this before...other cars and their drivers like all red blooded men will always prefer to view the rear of an attractive figure they see...its basic instincts ...because when that rear goes left and right...you better be damn sure ur standing behind for a good view
lol I hate the cls rear end. I think the E looks better.

Soo any idea if they have a difference in gear ratios?
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lol I hate the cls rear end. I think the E looks better.

Soo any idea if they have a difference in gear ratios?
2.65 final drive on both
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:23 PM
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So does the car that is crushing the 1/4 have painted white exhaust tips? Even inside? lol I know when I run Race gas it turns the tips white.
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Since he's running meth I doubt he needs race gas...but I'm only guessing.
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That's my car the car is tuned by Kevin Baldi @kevin_doesnt_lift is his IG he works out of precision tuning. The car has Kevin's tune meth is just for cooling running boat juice and downpipes. Still have stock turbos.
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Originally Posted by gaspam
yep tuned for meth now... previously when it ran 10.9 @ 128 it was not tuned for meth and was just using it for cooling, from what i understand

also from what i have read, the meth tune is not that aggressive (not advancing the timing a lot) so that if meth fails and failsafe fails, the ecu still can compensate and pull timing enough to protect engine
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Precision Tune Flash Tune ECU for Race Gas and Pump on the push button
Meth Kit (aem kit) Boost juice for Cooling purpose only aka back to back passes
down pipe
r888 rears (305/30/19) was put on days before his pass of 10.6
Painted White Exhaust Tips





all the runs was done on OEM Tires till 10.9 1/4
stock turbos
stock trans
stock axles
stock boxes
stock exhaust except DP

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And yes my exhaust tips are white look at previous posts. 👍🏼🙏🏼
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Originally Posted by DS5200
That's my car the car is tuned by Kevin Baldi @kevin_doesnt_lift is his IG he works out of precision tuning. The car has Kevin's tune meth is just for cooling running boat juice and downpipes. Still have stock turbos.
Did you say running boat juice?
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Originally Posted by CCCeee63
My Teams AMG has


Precision Tune Flash Tune ECU for Race Gas and Pump on the push button
Meth Kit (aem kit) Boost juice for Cooling purpose only aka back to back passes
down pipe
r888 rears (305/30/19) was put on days before his pass of 10.6
Painted White Exhaust Tips





all the runs was done on OEM Tires till 10.9 1/4
stock turbos
stock trans
stock axles
stock boxes
stock exhaust except DP
Just curious what are best results on stock tires with tune only on pump gas without DP?

Sounds like on stock tires the best this car will manage is a 11.0 flat in the 1/4 mile. Still very good.
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My best run on stock tires was 10.8 at 128
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Originally Posted by DS5200
That's my car the car is tuned by Kevin Baldi @kevin_doesnt_lift is his IG he works out of precision tuning. The car has Kevin's tune meth is just for cooling running boat juice and downpipes. Still have stock turbos.
when asked on benz boost how it went from 128 to 133, kevin said it was tuned for meth

Quickest bolt on M157 - Precision tuned Mercedes W212 E63 AMS S 4Matic runs 10.6@133 in the 1/4 mile

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Ecu is flexible and pretty quick bringing timing down, which is great in case of conditions not being ideal... unfortunately Ecu will compensate within a small range for better fuels/meth/octane etc, unless timing tables get modified like in this case it's difficult to see improvement from Ecu learnings by itself.


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