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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 03:41 AM
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WTB OEM Turbochargers , my story short

My original cores were messed up by some unprofessional people, I gave up on mersedes , now I'm only looking to get the car back on the road and sell it .
So I need a pare of OEM turbochargers , or as an option to fix my current upgraded turbos (leads to trusted shop would help) the problem is I'm not sure if this is even possible to fix them .
Break down of what involved in turbo upgrade if it failed and how much $ you going to lose
turbos 6-10k depends on discount you can get
labor 2500-3500 average
hardware $500
car down time 3-8 month, 7 in my case total so far
Labor the second time 2500-3500
hardware the second time $500
Now your cores blown so you need another set 3500-8900
tune , filters , plugs , oil not included , shipping not included (pretty good amount btw )
To get refunded takes forever , the refund will be for upgrade only , no labor no hardware no other things , and no cores .
So at the end of the day I spent $40k total and don't have a car



this is how I see my car for past 6-7 month
Need turbos

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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 06:04 AM
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i bought m157 turbo core from shardul, bro
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 10:05 AM
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The people have to know to never put more than stage 2 ! Stage 3 is lot of money lot of problem !
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 11:17 AM
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The tuners have to know not to lie to people , I don't need this car as stage 2 .
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 03:00 PM
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Problem is you need to know which tuner lies and which don't.
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 03:09 PM
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They will lie to you as long as you show them you have deep pockets. They will convince you that they can make anything work. There's a reason there is not much proof with track tested results out there. Only company I trust right now is AMS because they have proven results for their work.
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
I gave up on mersedes
I feel your pain but how is this Mercedes fault, car or brand?
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 04:28 PM
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I feel your pain but how is this Mercedes fault, car or brand?
I think he means Mercedes tuning.
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by need2speed
I feel your pain but how is this Mercedes fault, car or brand?
He means he gave up on his Mercedes
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by efiftyfizzle
They will lie to you as long as you show them you have deep pockets. They will convince you that they can make anything work. There's a reason there is not much proof with track tested results out there. Only company I trust right now is AMS because they have proven results for their work.
i havent seen any ams customer cars with upgraded turbos (only their shop car)... in the upgraded turbos realm i have only seen customer cars with weistec W3 and renntech stage 1 and 2 turbo kits.... seen a few weistec complaints and 0 renntech complaints (talking about turbo kits)

renntech kits are pretty expensive though

honestly at this point thought with the potential of the new twin scroll E63 and new stock porsche 991.2's running low 10s @ 133 and 160mph 1/2 mile i dont see myself staying in the W212 much more than a year more unless the W4 kit comes out and blows my mind, but seeing them run 165mph 1/2 at same event that +900whp M5 run 171mph, its not looking like it

if w4 kit doesnt pan out, will probably w213 e63 or 991.2TT depending on how the W213 initial tuning results do
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
i havent seen any ams customer cars with upgraded turbos (only their shop car)... in the upgraded turbos realm i have only seen customer cars with weistec W3 and renntech stage 1 and 2 turbo kits.... seen a few weistec complaints and 0 renntech complaints (talking about turbo kits)

renntech kits are pretty expensive though

honestly at this point thought with the potential of the new twin scroll E63 and new stock porsche 991.2's running low 10s @ 133 and 160mph 1/2 mile i dont see myself staying in the W212 much more than a year more unless the W4 kit comes out and blows my mind, but seeing them run 165mph 1/2 at same event that +900whp M5 run 171mph, its not looking like it

if w4 kit doesnt pan out, will probably w213 e63 or 991.2TT depending on how the W213 initial tuning results do
Didn't weistec at one point run 175mph at the 1/2 mile? Which kit was that?

http://www.boostaddict.com/content.p...ic-goes-174-55
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shardul
He means he gave up on his Mercedes
Build an R35 GTR, Fairbird
There are many 2000whp+ GTR on the street
Only very few 1000whp+ E/CLS 63 on the street, if any
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 06:46 PM
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A low mileage 2008 GTR would be OK as you would change almost anything mechanical with aftermarket
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 06:49 PM
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I have 750hp 997 turbo before (upgraded turbo)
But GTR has so much more power potential so I trade with GTR
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
Problem is you need to know which tuner lies and which don't.
the problem is they all lie
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by need2speed
I feel your pain but how is this Mercedes fault, car or brand?
tuning , mersedes is great car
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
i havent seen any ams customer cars with upgraded turbos (only their shop car)... in the upgraded turbos realm i have only seen customer cars with weistec W3 and renntech stage 1 and 2 turbo kits.... seen a few weistec complaints and 0 renntech complaints (talking about turbo kits)

renntech kits are pretty expensive though

honestly at this point thought with the potential of the new twin scroll E63 and new stock porsche 991.2's running low 10s @ 133 and 160mph 1/2 mile i dont see myself staying in the W212 much more than a year more unless the W4 kit comes out and blows my mind, but seeing them run 165mph 1/2 at same event that +900whp M5 run 171mph, its not looking like it

if w4 kit doesnt pan out, will probably w213 e63 or 991.2TT depending on how the W213 initial tuning results do
I wouldn't expect W4 , they lied again to me today .
Last chance is Monday , and I'll get oem from shardule , I know for fact nothing will change on Monday , nothing didn't change for past year .
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Old Dec 9, 2016 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by efiftyfizzle
Didn't weistec at one point run 175mph at the 1/2 mile? Which kit was that?

http://www.boostaddict.com/content.p...ic-goes-174-55
no this is bull **** , kit I had in my car
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by efiftyfizzle
Didn't weistec at one point run 175mph at the 1/2 mile? Which kit was that?

http://www.boostaddict.com/content.p...ic-goes-174-55
that was a roll on 1/2 mile, not standing 1/2 mile... in the standing 1/2 best i've seen from W3 is 156.... even this roll on below with w3 they only hit 161

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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 11:23 AM
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I wouldn't expect W4 , they lied again to me today .
Last chance is Monday , and I'll get oem from shardule , I know for fact nothing will change on Monday , nothing didn't change for past year .
yeah i tend to agree as I've been getting the run around on W4 from them since last year.. its always "next month we will have some good news" ... then next month same thing "next month..."
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
yeah i tend to agree as I've been getting the run around on W4 from them since last year.. its always "next month we will have some good news" ... then next month same thing "next month..."
yesterday it was "I'll talk to Mike and call you till the end of the day " guess what correct nothing
Mike he is the owner , he called me 2 month ago and said first week of December , today second week . Insiders said 2 month if I'm lucky , so stock turbo , sorry benz , **** the companies I had to deal with and I trusted lesson learned
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yeah so far seems like if one wants a benz and wants to run less than 10 sec/ greater than 140 mph trap then C63 M156 is the only platform in the benz lineup that has the aftermarket support to do it without having to have a crazy special custom build like vasily e63
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Old Dec 10, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gaspam
yeah so far seems like if one wants a benz and wants to run less than 10 sec/ greater than 140 mph trap then C63 M156 is the only platform in the benz lineup that has the aftermarket support to do it without having to have a crazy special custom build like vasily e63
his build took another E63 price wise and 2 years
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Fairbird, why not do a AMS or RennTech turbo kit if you are even considering keeping the car? In the end you spent close to those kits
I cannot imagine using any other company for a turbo build outside of those two for the M157
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Fairbird, why not do a AMS or RennTech turbo kit if you are even considering keeping the car? In the end you spent close to those kits
I cannot imagine using any other company for a turbo build outside of those two for the M157
how many ams cars do we have out there ? Non . Rentech 20k kit to late , 850 hp will not meet my needs .
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