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I'm in Chicago too and I've seen the car take 20 min to get To temp while in this frigid winter
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High 30* temps overnight, car was parked outside, 55* upon start up...took exactly 10 mins to get to 175* and another two minutes to get up to it's 200* normal.
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Next week I will actually time it, but I know how long it takes to get to work and about where on my route it gets to 175....about 20ish mins...but I will measure and report back.
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I really can't comment on how long my other cars have taken to warm up. This is my first car with an oil temp gauge. Every other car I've owned had only a coolant temp. gauge - and the coolant warms up within 3 minutes of driving.
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Read the manual: Cold start and even in S+ your E63 starts in 2nd gear to minimize engine racing. I've had a few cars with high HP/displacement and never seen the engine oil heat up in 5min... my '14 has always been consistent in mild temps, and now with winter upon us in the Northeast it takes a bit longer...
Be kind to the engine.
Be kind to the engine.
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Read the manual: Cold start and even in S+ your E63 starts in 2nd gear to minimize engine racing. I've had a few cars with high HP/displacement and never seen the engine oil heat up in 5min... my '14 has always been consistent in mild temps, and now with winter upon us in the Northeast it takes a bit longer...
Be kind to the engine.
Be kind to the engine.
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It's all about how cold the oil is and how hard your drive no the car...
The last few mornings, when I've pulled out of the garage, the oil has read~-3C. Would it be wise for me to pull away from my first few stop signs at WOT? Probably not.
Would it hurt to accelerate into the highway at 50% throttle (which is still quite fun in these cars), once I got there after a few minutes of driving, and Ben though my oil temp would still be <10C? I doubt it.
The last few mornings, when I've pulled out of the garage, the oil has read~-3C. Would it be wise for me to pull away from my first few stop signs at WOT? Probably not.
Would it hurt to accelerate into the highway at 50% throttle (which is still quite fun in these cars), once I got there after a few minutes of driving, and Ben though my oil temp would still be <10C? I doubt it.
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My 2014 CLS63 warmed up fairly quickly, but my 2015 E63 seems to take forever. It's a bit irritating as I only drive 4-6 miles a day and rarely get my car up to temp.
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I have a 2014 E63s and it does take a while to get out of the "blue" especially with highway driving. Stop/go or city driving is a bit quicker. It will get up to 150-160 rather quickly, but then it takes forever to get to 176.
My previous car was a 2014 M5, also TT V8, and it seemed pretty slow as well although the temp gauge was analog.
My NA cars, including an M156 motor, did seem to heat up quicker. Fastest was an RS5. It was 5 minutes.
I normally start off in comfort mode. Would starting off in S+ mode make it heat up faster since we are using lower gears and higher RPM's?
My previous car was a 2014 M5, also TT V8, and it seemed pretty slow as well although the temp gauge was analog.
My NA cars, including an M156 motor, did seem to heat up quicker. Fastest was an RS5. It was 5 minutes.
I normally start off in comfort mode. Would starting off in S+ mode make it heat up faster since we are using lower gears and higher RPM's?
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I can deal with the oil temp timing....but what is up with these heated seats? It seems that they take forever to get hot! And then once they do get hot the start backing down off the three red dot mark. Dare I say that I miss the heated steering wheel of cars past....
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I can deal with the oil temp timing....but what is up with these heated seats? It seems that they take forever to get hot! And then once they do get hot the start backing down off the three red dot mark. Dare I say that I miss the heated steering wheel of cars past....
The seats in my '11 E350 got HOT and very quickly (seats were MB tex.) I think the AMG seats with additional bolstering, padding and leather mask the intensity.
I'll wager the part number for the seat heaters is the same, unless they are an integrated unit with the cooling function.
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What is up with this inconsistency?
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As I said my dealer put four thermostats in that would work for a while then go back to the same deal, then they talk to the people out at Laguna Seca, AMG class was running and they said all the cars do that so at that point they said it was normal, when we talk to engineers they said it wasn't normal, Mercedes engineers. I am going to try tomorrow to do my modification I will let you know . The big problem I have is I go to the high Sierras, extremely cold and wet oil temperature will drop coming down the hill, there is eight 212° thermostat so it should stay at 212 or so . I did see one of these motors completely apart at 120,000 miles it looks very good but the point is oil is always supposed to be hot, 212 is the boiling point of water at sea level that's where you want your oil . It needs to boil out all the contaminants going to the vapor system and Brunt. The factory probably doesn't want to deal with the problem because it's going to be very expensive I will post my conclusions on my modification of the thermostat system, have a very merry Christmas !
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^ lol me too I've advised as many people as i can that have M157's to stop driving them immediately, and also notified my local dealership and after reading this thread they agreed " I THANK we have a problem" and stopped selling M157's until we get this thing sorted out.... hold tight guys we are all in this together
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you can ask your tuner for changing the maps for oil cooling and pressure to heat faster or cooler.
also AMG knows about this and can change the map for oil cooling.
so, just bug the dealer that you need a new tune to address this issue and AMG can do it.
also AMG knows about this and can change the map for oil cooling.
so, just bug the dealer that you need a new tune to address this issue and AMG can do it.
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^ lol me too I've advised as many people as i can that have M157's to stop driving them immediately, and also notified my local dealership and after reading this thread they agreed " I THANK we have a problem" and stopped selling M157's until we get this thing sorted out.... hold tight guys we are all in this together
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^ lol me too I've advised as many people as i can that have M157's to stop driving them immediately, and also notified my local dealership and after reading this thread they agreed " I THANK we have a problem" and stopped selling M157's until we get this thing sorted out.... hold tight guys we are all in this together
They stated M157 powered cars are no longer eligible for coverage until this gets sorted!
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Just drop in some ice cubes. Problem solved
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Ill need to ask the dealer about that ill get back to you bro.