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Old 02-16-2017, 05:03 PM
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What numbers have other stock M157 put down on that same dyno?
As Geno mentioned my post 91 EC box tune numbers were 581rwp and 722rwtq (around 65/130 over baseline) but there were some issues. They didn't use dyno mode and the ecu threw codes and my intake tubes got sucked into the air box. My traps were 121-122mph on that tune. I recently had EC flash their newer tune and my traps went up to 127 (we're on one of the country's slower tracks so please people, don't tell me that's slow for a tuned car). No new dyno numbers but you can do the math and estimate the gains.

Geno's car with a custom tune will easily be well over my initial numbers and should beat my new tune.

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I'm curious to see the numbers as well. I haven't heard of many guys going custom tune within the Mercedes world.

Good luck
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
As Geno mentioned my post 91 EC box tune numbers were 581rwp and 722rwtq (around 65/130 over baseline) but there were some issues. They didn't use dyno mode and the ecu threw codes and my intake tubes got sucked into the air box. My traps were 121-122mph on that tune. I recently had EC flash their newer tune and my traps went up to 127 (we're on one of the country's slower tracks so please people, don't tell me that's slow for a tuned car). No new dyno numbers but you can do the math and estimate the gains.

Geno's car with a custom tune will easily be well over my initial numbers and should beat my new tune.
the EC stage 1 tune is weak sauce. Geno car in stock form was already doing better.

The stage 2 tune from EC is day and night difference in power.
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
the EC stage 1 tune is weak sauce. Geno car in stock form was already doing better.

The stage 2 tune from EC is day and night difference in power.
It was conservative and although we had the same mph that tune still was a bit quicker than Geno's car by 2 tenths at the track. My new tune gained the missing mph but made it more difficult to launch on street tires. Geno's custom tune will likely put him out front!
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Well they got done sooner then I thought that they would.

And I am impressed to say the least.......


This morning they did another baseline in cooler air so these numbers went up just a little bit.

So to make it fair the pre tune numbers are

549.33whp and 606.74 wtq

Tuned numbers are 646.61 whp and 775.46wtq

Hes emailing me the dyno sheet right now and I will post it up
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Originally Posted by Geno51
Well they got done sooner then I thought that they would.

And I am impressed to say the least.......


This morning they did another baseline in cooler air so these numbers went up just a little bit.

So to make it fair the pre tune numbers are

549.33whp and 606.74 wtq

Tuned numbers are 646.61 whp and 775.46wtq

Hes emailing me the dyno sheet right now and I will post it up
Congrats brotha, those are huge numbers!!!
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Driving down to pick it up I will post impressions when I can




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definitely strong numbers! think thats got to be close to/ or actual tune/dp record- congrats

i remember reading the car that did 10.6/133 on stock turbos w/tune, dp and meth was at 670 whp so if you add some meth you would probably be there or more
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definitely strong numbers! think thats got to be close to/ or actual tune/dp record- congrats

i remember reading the car that did 10.6/133 on stock turbos w/tune, dp and meth was at 670 whp so if you add some meth you would probably be there or more
Even with correction factors I don't like comparing different dynos and I doubt we'll see any stage 2 10 second E63s on our tracks. But this is on a 91 tune so these numbers are very impressive!
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Even with correction factors I don't like comparing different dynos and I doubt we'll see any stage 2 10 second E63s on our tracks. But this is on a 91 tune so these numbers are very impressive!
yeah for sure at your DA... i didnt mean he would be at the 10.6/133 result, i meant he would be close to or better the 670 whp number with meth
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yeah for sure at your DA... i didnt mean he would be at the 10.6/133 result, i meant he would be close to or better the 670 whp number with meth
I know you didn't, I was just throwing it out there that it sucks that we can't compete for track times. If he was tuned for meth, I could easily see him picking up more than the 24hp needed to top that number.

My meth kit is in a box in my trunk for two reasons. 1, I hate that it has to be mounted pre intercooler and 2, it's too difficult to have it tuned since no one is local. This is a game changer for AZ.

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Sick numbers. My EC stage 2 with catless DP
Comes close!

i was breaking traction on the dyno spinning the rollers on 255 square winter setup. Could of pushed a little more with full traction they said.

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Awesome numbers Geno! The car is a E63 S correct? I thought they didnt pick up as much since already "Semi tuned"? Looks like yours did!
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Impressive Numbers! Tell the shop to do some smoothing on the dyno chart in the Winpep software, you usually dont see zero smoothing graphs.
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Awesome numbers Geno! The car is a E63 S correct? I thought they didnt pick up as much since already "Semi tuned"? Looks like yours did!
m157 still leaves a lot of room to gain even on S models no doubt.
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Geno,
congrats. those are some solid numbers!! speaking of numbers, how did the cost of a custom dyno compare with a box tune such as Renntech at $2850+
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Mine came in right at 2k but he has not figured if he was going to stay in that range or not. Car feels like an absolute beast. Just got back from Phoenix and its like a new car. Can't wait to do my next test and that will be 100 octane tune
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Impressive Numbers! Tell the shop to do some smoothing on the dyno chart in the Winpep software, you usually dont see zero smoothing graphs.
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Originally Posted by Amg63-

Sick numbers. My EC stage 2 with catless DP
Comes close!

i was breaking traction on the dyno spinning the rollers on 255 square winter setup. Could of pushed a little more with full traction they said.
You're touque numbers looks just like mine was that 93 octane ?

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I tried to get a Dyno tune from Eurocharged last week (they are local) and the lady who answered the phone basically told me there would be no difference between my box Rentech tune and a Eurocharged dyno tune I gave up lol

Awesome numbers BTW!!!
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You're touque numbers looks just like mine was that 93 octane ?
was on 94 octane pump gas (Canada) about the same torque as you.
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Thanks for sharing the results. Your next trip to the track should be fun!
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Now I need new tires!!! my rears were in pretty bad shape but now it just blows them off in first gear lol
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Originally Posted by Geno51
Now I need new tires!!! my rears were in pretty bad shape but now it just blows them off in first gear lol
What systems/settings are you turning off to get a good launch?


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