2016 E63S Wagon market check
03-10-2018 | 12:41 AM
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2016 E63S Wagon market check
Considering selling my wagon, curious where the experts here feel the market is. 2016 w 20k miles; black/black, CCBs, rear entertainment, night package, ... nearly every option w $130k sticker. CPO which would carry in private sale, prepaid maintenance for next two years (need to check on that), front end clear bra. All stock, no tunes and no issues. What do you think trade and private party values are?
If I get $82K it is gone...
03-10-2018 | 09:14 PM
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Seems like these cars are holding value really well. I did a recent search for a friend who was thinking about a real good 2016 with low miles and the lowest I saw with a wagon was 80K and that car had 22K miles on the clock. It's surprising because these cars were mostly produced 3 years ago, although some less. When I bought my my 2012 it was about a year and half old and it was 80K with a sticker of 110K, so yes these cars are holding value well. I'd start out asking $85K and see what happens. I guess some of it depends on what region of the country you are at but I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to travel.
03-11-2018 | 01:11 AM
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Seems like these cars are holding value really well. I did a recent search for a friend who was thinking about a real good 2016 with low miles and the lowest I saw with a wagon was 80K and that car had 22K miles on the clock. It's surprising because these cars were mostly produced 3 years ago, although some less. When I bought my my 2012 it was about a year and half old and it was 80K with a sticker of 110K, so yes these cars are holding value well. I'd start out asking $85K and see what happens. I guess some of it depends on what region of the country you are at but I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to travel.
I want to sell it.... if anyone is interested I can get the sticker... I do not remember but I think it was $120+
Want the money for a new GT3RS....
03-11-2018 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012 merc amg
Seems like these cars are holding value really well. I did a recent search for a friend who was thinking about a real good 2016 with low miles and the lowest I saw with a wagon was 80K and that car had 22K miles on the clock. It's surprising because these cars were mostly produced 3 years ago, although some less. When I bought my my 2012 it was about a year and half old and it was 80K with a sticker of 110K, so yes these cars are holding value well. I'd start out asking $85K and see what happens. I guess some of it depends on what region of the country you are at but I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to travel.
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03-12-2018 | 02:39 PM
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Really surprised to hear you're interested in selling it.....
Very few 2016s have gone through Manheim, so little that they don't offer an MMR. I show three transactions:
- 45K miles, 4.9 condition (outstanding), went for 71200 last month. Unknown current location
- 25K miles, 3.4 condition (not so hot), went for 79500 last month. This car is now for sale at Fletcher Jones for 91K, CPO
- 48K miles, 4.3 condition (acceptable for this car), went for 73700 back in September. This car is now for sale at Elite Automotive Group, not sure if it's CPO, for 75K
A little bit of a shot in the dark since I stopped really tracking the market after I got my car back in September....I would put the wholesale value of your car somewhere around 78-82. We're now on the tail end of the 2018 model year so demand may be lower vs. in the Fall. You may get a little extra for the CCBs but I think RSE is neither here nor there. Some people will really want it, others not so much. The CCBs will appeal to enthusiasts, but given how small the market is for this car, reducing it even further by pricing the car extra due to the CCBs may be a mistake.
There are six 2016s on AT at the moment. Two of them are noted above and a third is the lemon law/hit car up in CT, so we'll throw that one out. Probably the biggest one working against you is the 81K CPO w/ 22K at MB Wesley Chapel. It's good that yours is CPO and the PP maintenance can add another 1000 of value (but I would check to see if you can get a refund on it). The Fletcher car is priced way, way too high, especially given it was a 3.4 car so it almost certainly has some paintwork. There is also the Indigo for 84K w/ 17K miles, but that's been for sale for quite some time and IIRC they started it around 89K.
Just my opinion, but private party, I would peg it somewhere around 84-85K. I can see a dealer offering this car, CPO, for high 80s.
Very few 2016s have gone through Manheim, so little that they don't offer an MMR. I show three transactions:
- 45K miles, 4.9 condition (outstanding), went for 71200 last month. Unknown current location
- 25K miles, 3.4 condition (not so hot), went for 79500 last month. This car is now for sale at Fletcher Jones for 91K, CPO
- 48K miles, 4.3 condition (acceptable for this car), went for 73700 back in September. This car is now for sale at Elite Automotive Group, not sure if it's CPO, for 75K
A little bit of a shot in the dark since I stopped really tracking the market after I got my car back in September....I would put the wholesale value of your car somewhere around 78-82. We're now on the tail end of the 2018 model year so demand may be lower vs. in the Fall. You may get a little extra for the CCBs but I think RSE is neither here nor there. Some people will really want it, others not so much. The CCBs will appeal to enthusiasts, but given how small the market is for this car, reducing it even further by pricing the car extra due to the CCBs may be a mistake.
There are six 2016s on AT at the moment. Two of them are noted above and a third is the lemon law/hit car up in CT, so we'll throw that one out. Probably the biggest one working against you is the 81K CPO w/ 22K at MB Wesley Chapel. It's good that yours is CPO and the PP maintenance can add another 1000 of value (but I would check to see if you can get a refund on it). The Fletcher car is priced way, way too high, especially given it was a 3.4 car so it almost certainly has some paintwork. There is also the Indigo for 84K w/ 17K miles, but that's been for sale for quite some time and IIRC they started it around 89K.
Just my opinion, but private party, I would peg it somewhere around 84-85K. I can see a dealer offering this car, CPO, for high 80s.
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03-12-2018 | 11:22 PM
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^ Great to hear from you! And always great data. I changed jobs and now drive 3 city miles each way as opposed to 30 highway, so just not using it. Have the RS for fun which means even less time for this great car. Not decided but it's where I'm leaning.
Enjoying yours? Thanks again for your detailed thoughts.
Enjoying yours? Thanks again for your detailed thoughts.
03-13-2018 | 01:08 AM
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^ Great to hear from you! And always great data. I changed jobs and now drive 3 city miles each way as opposed to 30 highway, so just not using it. Have the RS for fun which means even less time for this great car. Not decided but it's where I'm leaning.
Enjoying yours? Thanks again for your detailed thoughts.
Enjoying yours? Thanks again for your detailed thoughts.
03-15-2018 | 07:03 PM
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03-15-2018 | 07:37 PM
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really? I will never buy an AMG with steel again.
I own 2 E63s wagons one with steel (2015) and the other with CCB (2016). I also owned 2 GTs with and without CCB, and tracked at the AMG academy in Jerez and Laguna (PRO+ both), so I did not care if I baked the rotors; which I did 2 sets of steel. One set in a GTr and another in a GTs. No riding on the breaks telemetry either, which the chief instructor looked closely.
In normal conditions, like in Seattle's winter, wet and cold the CCB still smoke steel. The AMG's CCBs transform the E63 and GTs into fun cars. Plus the lack of break dust!!!! that alone makes the CCBs a better option form me.
But then breaks are like everything else a personal choice..
I own 2 E63s wagons one with steel (2015) and the other with CCB (2016). I also owned 2 GTs with and without CCB, and tracked at the AMG academy in Jerez and Laguna (PRO+ both), so I did not care if I baked the rotors; which I did 2 sets of steel. One set in a GTr and another in a GTs. No riding on the breaks telemetry either, which the chief instructor looked closely.
In normal conditions, like in Seattle's winter, wet and cold the CCB still smoke steel. The AMG's CCBs transform the E63 and GTs into fun cars. Plus the lack of break dust!!!! that alone makes the CCBs a better option form me.
But then breaks are like everything else a personal choice..
03-15-2018 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jnolan
CCB is a great option that is more of a drag on resale than incentive. The low $80’s is about right for estimated private party sale value, mid-to-high 70’s for trade-in.
03-15-2018 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Astolfo
really? I will never buy an AMG with steel again.
I own 2 E63s wagons one with steel (2015) and the other with CCB (2016). I also owned 2 GTs with and without CCB, and tracked at the AMG academy in Jerez and Laguna (PRO+ both), so I did not care if I baked the rotors; which I did 2 sets of steel. One set in a GTr and another in a GTs. No riding on the breaks telemetry either, which the chief instructor looked closely.
In normal conditions, like in Seattle's winter, wet and cold the CCB still smoke steel. The AMG's CCBs transform the E63 and GTs into fun cars. Plus the lack of break dust!!!! that alone makes the CCBs a better option form me.
But then breaks are like everything else a personal choice..
I own 2 E63s wagons one with steel (2015) and the other with CCB (2016). I also owned 2 GTs with and without CCB, and tracked at the AMG academy in Jerez and Laguna (PRO+ both), so I did not care if I baked the rotors; which I did 2 sets of steel. One set in a GTr and another in a GTs. No riding on the breaks telemetry either, which the chief instructor looked closely.
In normal conditions, like in Seattle's winter, wet and cold the CCB still smoke steel. The AMG's CCBs transform the E63 and GTs into fun cars. Plus the lack of break dust!!!! that alone makes the CCBs a better option form me.
But then breaks are like everything else a personal choice..
03-16-2018 | 07:47 PM
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I have PCCB on my Porsche and passed on a 2018 E63 wagon to replace my 2016 because it had steel brakes... so let’s get over the histrionics about steel versus CCB because I agree the latter are awesome. *****, I even did the math on fully loaded replacement costs for steel brakes over 100k miles and think the economics zero out against CCB, unless you track the car.
Having said that, there is so much negative coverage of carbon ceramic brake replacement costs that it becomes an issue with resale. Buyers look at CCB and immediately go to the replacement cost for leverage in negotiations. Cars are not an investment, that $9k upgrade isn’t going to fetch anywhere close to that in resale, it may well zero out with a determined buyer or become something you have to work through. If it were my as your buyer, I’d pay for them.
I wish it were not so.
Having said that, there is so much negative coverage of carbon ceramic brake replacement costs that it becomes an issue with resale. Buyers look at CCB and immediately go to the replacement cost for leverage in negotiations. Cars are not an investment, that $9k upgrade isn’t going to fetch anywhere close to that in resale, it may well zero out with a determined buyer or become something you have to work through. If it were my as your buyer, I’d pay for them.
I wish it were not so.
03-16-2018 | 08:31 PM
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I have PCCB on my Porsche and passed on a 2018 E63 wagon to replace my 2016 because it had steel brakes... so let’s get over the histrionics about steel versus CCB because I agree the latter are awesome. *****, I even did the math on fully loaded replacement costs for steel brakes over 100k miles and think the economics zero out against CCB, unless you track the car.
Having said that, there is so much negative coverage of carbon ceramic brake replacement costs that it becomes an issue with resale. Buyers look at CCB and immediately go to the replacement cost for leverage in negotiations. Cars are not an investment, that $9k upgrade isn’t going to fetch anywhere close to that in resale, it may well zero out with a determined buyer or become something you have to work through. If it were my as your buyer, I’d pay for them.
I wish it were not so.
Having said that, there is so much negative coverage of carbon ceramic brake replacement costs that it becomes an issue with resale. Buyers look at CCB and immediately go to the replacement cost for leverage in negotiations. Cars are not an investment, that $9k upgrade isn’t going to fetch anywhere close to that in resale, it may well zero out with a determined buyer or become something you have to work through. If it were my as your buyer, I’d pay for them.
I wish it were not so.
