Does anyone have W212 AMG production numbers?
01-18-2023, 09:10 PM
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Found this from gtcarlot some of the numbers don't add up... Example the percentage of e63 should equal the number of m157 motor... But it doesn't look.
2014
63 AMG 0.2%
63 AMG S-Model 0.6%
63 AMG S-Model Wagon 0.2%
63 AMG Wagon 0.2%
E250 BlueTEC 4Matic Sedan 0.5%
E250 BlueTEC Sedan 2.3%
2014 Mercedes-Benz E Engines
2.1 Liter Twin-Turbocharged BlueTEC Diesel DOHC 16-Valve 4 Cylinder 2.7%
3.5 Liter DI DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 94.1%
3.5 Liter DI DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 Gasoline/Electric Hybrid 0.2%
4.6 Liter Twin-Turbocharged DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 1.8%
5.5 Liter AMG Biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 1.2%
2014 Mercedes-Benz E Transmissions
7 Speed AMG Speedshift MCT Automatic 0.7%
7 Speed Automatic 99.3%
2014 Mercedes-Benz E Colors
Black 35.2%
Diamond Silver Metallic 0.7%
Diamond White Metallic 8.5%
Dolomite Brown Metallic 0.4%
Hyacinth Red Metallic 0.2%
Indigo Blue Metallic 0.6%
Iridium Silver Metallic 6.4%
Lunar Blue Metallic 4.9%
Mars Red 0.8%
Obsidian Black Metallic 0.5%
Paladium Silver Metallic 8.9%
Polar White 21.4%
Steel Gray Metallic 10.9%
designo Graphite 0.2%
designo Magno Alanite Grey 0.1%
designo Magno Cashmere White 0.1%
2014 Mercedes-Benz E Interiors
Black 58.5%
Chestnut Brown/Black 0.6%
Deep Sea Blue/Silk Beige 0.4%
Espresso Brown/Silk Beige 0.1%
Gray/Dark Gray 8.3%
Grey/Black 3.4%
Natural Beige/Black 1.6%
Porcelain/Black 1.2%
Red/Black 0.5%
Silk Beige/Espresso Brown 25.1%
designo Amaretto 0.1%
designo Mystic Platinum White 0.1%
designo Mystic Red 0.1%
designo Sand 0.1%
2015
63 AMG 4Matic Sedan 0.8%
63 AMG S 4Matic Sedan 6.9%
63 AMG S 4Matic Wagon 6.2%
2015 Mercedes-Benz E Engines
2.1 Liter Twin-Turbocharged BlueTEC Diesel DOHC 16-Valve 4 Cylinder 12.3%
3.0 Liter DI biturbo DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 33.8%
3.5 Liter DI DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 27.7%
4.7 Liter DI biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 12.3%
5.5 Liter AMG DI biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 13.8%
2015 Mercedes-Benz E Transmissions
7 Speed AMG Speedshift MCT Automatic 6.2%
7 Speed Automatic 93.8%
2015 Mercedes-Benz E Colors
Black 31.5%
Diamond Silver Metallic 1.5%
Dolomite Brown Metallic 0.8%
Dune Silver Metallic 2.3%
Iridium Silver Metallic 7.7%
Lunar Blue Metallic 3.1%
Obsidian Black Metallic 3.1%
Palladium Silver Metallic 6.2%
Polar White 26.9%
Steel Grey Metallic 6.2%
designo Cardinal Red Metallic 0.8%
designo Diamond White Metallic 6.9%
designo Graphite 0.8%
designo Magno Alanite Grey 0.8%
designo Magno Cashmere White 1.5%
2015 Mercedes-Benz E Interiors
Black 50.8%
Chestnut Brown/Black 2.3%
Crystal Grey/Seashell Grey 3.8%
Deep Sea Blue/Silk Beige Brown 2.3%
Espresso Brown/Black 1.5%
Grey/Black 2.3%
Natural Beige/Black 5.4%
Porcelain/Black 4.6%
Red/Black 6.2%
Silk Beige/Espresso Brown 16.9%
designo Amaretto 0.8%
designo Auburn Brown 0.8%
designo Light Brown 0.8%
designo Platinum White 1.5%
2016
63 AMG 4Matic S Sedan 1.2%
63 AMG 4Matic S Wagon 0.4%
2016 Mercedes-Benz E Engines
2.1 Liter Twin-Turbocharged BlueTEC Diesel DOHC 16-Valve 4 Cylinder 2.5%
3.0 Liter DI biturbo DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 22.3%
3.5 Liter DI DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 70.3%
4.6 Liter DI biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 3.4%
5.5 Liter AMG DI biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 1.6%
2016 Mercedes-Benz E Transmissions
7 Speed AMG Speedshift MCT Automatic 1.5%
7 Speed Automatic 98.5%
2016 Mercedes-Benz E Colors
Black 27.4%
Diamond Silver Metallic 0.6%
Dolomite Brown Metallic 0.7%
Dune Silver Metallic 0.1%
Indigo Blue Metallic 1.0%
Iridium Silver Metallic 11.8%
Lunar Blue Metallic 3.1%
Mars Red 1.5%
Obsidian Black Metallic 0.7%
Palladium Metallic 0.1%
Polar White 31.3%
Selenite Grey Metallic 4.5%
Steel Grey Metallic 13.7%
designo Cardinal Red Metallic 0.3%
designo Diamond White Metallic 2.0%
designo Graphite 0.6%
designo Magno Alanite Grey 0.1%
designo Magno Cashmere White 0.3%
2016 Mercedes-Benz E Interiors
Beige 0.1%
Black 64.7%
Chestnut Brown/Black 2.8%
Crystal Grey/Black 8.3%
Crystal Grey/Seashell Grey 0.4%
Deep Sea Blue/Silk Beige 0.1%
Espresso Brown/Black 0.4%
Espresso Brown/Silk Beige 0.6%
Natural Beige/Black 4.1%
Porcelain/Black 0.9%
Red/Black 2.8%
Silk Beige/Espresso Brown 13.4%
designo Amaretto 0.3%
designo Light Brown 0.3%
designo Mystic Red 0.4%
designo Saffron Beige 0.1%
designo Sand 0.1%
Total facelift production numbers (worldwide/ usa sales)
2014 257,571 66,400
2015 232,453 55,888
2016 304,200 50,896
So using those numbers... here are the wagons per year.
2014 256
2015 3465
2016 203
as you can see, the numbers are a bit funky, but they are the best we got until someone finds some better ones lolI'm guessing the discrepancy with 2015 is the 6.8% is not of the total production, but of the 6.9% of the AMGs.
Also I'm not sure if those percentages are of the total worldwide production which is about 300,000 per year, or of the USA sales which is those 50,000 numbers
2014
63 AMG 0.2%
63 AMG S-Model 0.6%
63 AMG S-Model Wagon 0.2%
63 AMG Wagon 0.2%
E250 BlueTEC 4Matic Sedan 0.5%
E250 BlueTEC Sedan 2.3%
2014 Mercedes-Benz E Engines
2.1 Liter Twin-Turbocharged BlueTEC Diesel DOHC 16-Valve 4 Cylinder 2.7%
3.5 Liter DI DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 94.1%
3.5 Liter DI DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 Gasoline/Electric Hybrid 0.2%
4.6 Liter Twin-Turbocharged DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 1.8%
5.5 Liter AMG Biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 1.2%
2014 Mercedes-Benz E Transmissions
7 Speed AMG Speedshift MCT Automatic 0.7%
7 Speed Automatic 99.3%
2014 Mercedes-Benz E Colors
Black 35.2%
Diamond Silver Metallic 0.7%
Diamond White Metallic 8.5%
Dolomite Brown Metallic 0.4%
Hyacinth Red Metallic 0.2%
Indigo Blue Metallic 0.6%
Iridium Silver Metallic 6.4%
Lunar Blue Metallic 4.9%
Mars Red 0.8%
Obsidian Black Metallic 0.5%
Paladium Silver Metallic 8.9%
Polar White 21.4%
Steel Gray Metallic 10.9%
designo Graphite 0.2%
designo Magno Alanite Grey 0.1%
designo Magno Cashmere White 0.1%
2014 Mercedes-Benz E Interiors
Black 58.5%
Chestnut Brown/Black 0.6%
Deep Sea Blue/Silk Beige 0.4%
Espresso Brown/Silk Beige 0.1%
Gray/Dark Gray 8.3%
Grey/Black 3.4%
Natural Beige/Black 1.6%
Porcelain/Black 1.2%
Red/Black 0.5%
Silk Beige/Espresso Brown 25.1%
designo Amaretto 0.1%
designo Mystic Platinum White 0.1%
designo Mystic Red 0.1%
designo Sand 0.1%
2015
63 AMG 4Matic Sedan 0.8%
63 AMG S 4Matic Sedan 6.9%
63 AMG S 4Matic Wagon 6.2%
2015 Mercedes-Benz E Engines
2.1 Liter Twin-Turbocharged BlueTEC Diesel DOHC 16-Valve 4 Cylinder 12.3%
3.0 Liter DI biturbo DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 33.8%
3.5 Liter DI DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 27.7%
4.7 Liter DI biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 12.3%
5.5 Liter AMG DI biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 13.8%
2015 Mercedes-Benz E Transmissions
7 Speed AMG Speedshift MCT Automatic 6.2%
7 Speed Automatic 93.8%
2015 Mercedes-Benz E Colors
Black 31.5%
Diamond Silver Metallic 1.5%
Dolomite Brown Metallic 0.8%
Dune Silver Metallic 2.3%
Iridium Silver Metallic 7.7%
Lunar Blue Metallic 3.1%
Obsidian Black Metallic 3.1%
Palladium Silver Metallic 6.2%
Polar White 26.9%
Steel Grey Metallic 6.2%
designo Cardinal Red Metallic 0.8%
designo Diamond White Metallic 6.9%
designo Graphite 0.8%
designo Magno Alanite Grey 0.8%
designo Magno Cashmere White 1.5%
2015 Mercedes-Benz E Interiors
Black 50.8%
Chestnut Brown/Black 2.3%
Crystal Grey/Seashell Grey 3.8%
Deep Sea Blue/Silk Beige Brown 2.3%
Espresso Brown/Black 1.5%
Grey/Black 2.3%
Natural Beige/Black 5.4%
Porcelain/Black 4.6%
Red/Black 6.2%
Silk Beige/Espresso Brown 16.9%
designo Amaretto 0.8%
designo Auburn Brown 0.8%
designo Light Brown 0.8%
designo Platinum White 1.5%
2016
63 AMG 4Matic S Sedan 1.2%
63 AMG 4Matic S Wagon 0.4%
2016 Mercedes-Benz E Engines
2.1 Liter Twin-Turbocharged BlueTEC Diesel DOHC 16-Valve 4 Cylinder 2.5%
3.0 Liter DI biturbo DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 22.3%
3.5 Liter DI DOHC 24-Valve VVT V6 70.3%
4.6 Liter DI biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 3.4%
5.5 Liter AMG DI biturbo DOHC 32-Valve VVT V8 1.6%
2016 Mercedes-Benz E Transmissions
7 Speed AMG Speedshift MCT Automatic 1.5%
7 Speed Automatic 98.5%
2016 Mercedes-Benz E Colors
Black 27.4%
Diamond Silver Metallic 0.6%
Dolomite Brown Metallic 0.7%
Dune Silver Metallic 0.1%
Indigo Blue Metallic 1.0%
Iridium Silver Metallic 11.8%
Lunar Blue Metallic 3.1%
Mars Red 1.5%
Obsidian Black Metallic 0.7%
Palladium Metallic 0.1%
Polar White 31.3%
Selenite Grey Metallic 4.5%
Steel Grey Metallic 13.7%
designo Cardinal Red Metallic 0.3%
designo Diamond White Metallic 2.0%
designo Graphite 0.6%
designo Magno Alanite Grey 0.1%
designo Magno Cashmere White 0.3%
2016 Mercedes-Benz E Interiors
Beige 0.1%
Black 64.7%
Chestnut Brown/Black 2.8%
Crystal Grey/Black 8.3%
Crystal Grey/Seashell Grey 0.4%
Deep Sea Blue/Silk Beige 0.1%
Espresso Brown/Black 0.4%
Espresso Brown/Silk Beige 0.6%
Natural Beige/Black 4.1%
Porcelain/Black 0.9%
Red/Black 2.8%
Silk Beige/Espresso Brown 13.4%
designo Amaretto 0.3%
designo Light Brown 0.3%
designo Mystic Red 0.4%
designo Saffron Beige 0.1%
designo Sand 0.1%
Total facelift production numbers (worldwide/ usa sales)
2014 257,571 66,400
2015 232,453 55,888
2016 304,200 50,896
So using those numbers... here are the wagons per year.
2014 256
2015 3465
2016 203
as you can see, the numbers are a bit funky, but they are the best we got until someone finds some better ones lolI'm guessing the discrepancy with 2015 is the 6.8% is not of the total production, but of the 6.9% of the AMGs.
Also I'm not sure if those percentages are of the total worldwide production which is about 300,000 per year, or of the USA sales which is those 50,000 numbers
04-02-2023, 04:29 PM
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I've attached a list of all 2010-2011 E63 AMG sedans produced, which I used when searching for one to buy. I was only looking for an M156 car hence why I don't have numbers for '12-'16 model years. The screenshots show a few different summaries for models made for the US market. The screenshot with 201A, 205A, etc shows the distribution of interior colors. 201A: standard black, 205A: standard beige, 208A: standard gray; 801A: premium black; 805A: premium beige, 808A: premium gray.
do you have all 156 E63 amg engine europe and us?
04-06-2023, 09:51 PM
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w212 E63S wagon, w210 E350 wagon, and a variety of other interesting non-Mercedes cars
i just bought a 2012 E63s wagon with the stage 1 renntech tune, so it puts out about 700bhp.
if i take the numbers above, i see that there were 209 2012-13 e63 wagons produced.
what i am wondering is how many of those were optioned as an S.....and then of those how many then received a renntech package.....
my own guess is that roughly half of the wagons were specced as an S, and of those maybe a third had the renntech package added - or fewer.
frankly, i have never seen another, and i am starting to think that my car is likely one of maybe 25.
thoughts?
if i take the numbers above, i see that there were 209 2012-13 e63 wagons produced.
what i am wondering is how many of those were optioned as an S.....and then of those how many then received a renntech package.....
my own guess is that roughly half of the wagons were specced as an S, and of those maybe a third had the renntech package added - or fewer.
frankly, i have never seen another, and i am starting to think that my car is likely one of maybe 25.
thoughts?
04-07-2023, 11:44 AM
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i just bought a 2012 E63s wagon with the stage 1 renntech tune, so it puts out about 700bhp.
if i take the numbers above, i see that there were 209 2012-13 e63 wagons produced.
what i am wondering is how many of those were optioned as an S.....and then of those how many then received a renntech package.....
my own guess is that roughly half of the wagons were specced as an S, and of those maybe a third had the renntech package added - or fewer.
frankly, i have never seen another, and i am starting to think that my car is likely one of maybe 25.
thoughts?
if i take the numbers above, i see that there were 209 2012-13 e63 wagons produced.
what i am wondering is how many of those were optioned as an S.....and then of those how many then received a renntech package.....
my own guess is that roughly half of the wagons were specced as an S, and of those maybe a third had the renntech package added - or fewer.
frankly, i have never seen another, and i am starting to think that my car is likely one of maybe 25.
thoughts?
04-07-2023, 01:32 PM
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Renntech package wasn't from Mercedes. That's a modification. So, anyone could buy it if they wanted it at any point. Otherwise, I agree, it would be cool to have a sortable database to be able to drill down to see how many other cars were spec'ed exactly the same as the one you bought.
I only mentioned it because I think that this combination is probably pretty rare but wanted some further views on that opinion 😀
04-07-2023, 07:27 PM
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13 s212 63 p30. 03 s55amg. 06 LX470
I think the opinion is that renntech has nothing to do with rarity or desirability. The numbers produced for 12-13 are low and you would want an s with performance package and other stock packages vs aftermarket tune. Many collector types would especially shy away from the aftermarket tuned cars.
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04-08-2023, 07:12 PM
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I think the opinion is that renntech has nothing to do with rarity or desirability. The numbers produced for 12-13 are low and you would want an s with performance package and other stock packages vs aftermarket tune. Many collector types would especially shy away from the aftermarket tuned cars.
but renntech is practically an adjunct of AMG so i am happy enough with it, and it sure is fast !
so do we know how many of the 209 had the S package optioned?
04-09-2023, 07:13 AM
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I can't remember on the prefacelift, but all facelift wagons are S models
04-10-2023, 08:29 PM
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13 s212 63 p30. 03 s55amg. 06 LX470
The performance package was like a stock MB warranteed "chip tune" and if im not mistaken, renntech tuning (not including turbos DPs etc) does not improve much on that, if at all. Not hating on you, just trying to help you understand the dynamics of the options. Renntech is not at all related to AMG. AMG is a historical mb tuner that then worked with and was then purchased by MB while renntech was offered by individual dealers as a dealer warrantied AFTERMARKET option. AMG laid the groundwork for many "tuners" that followed. Knowing the value of pre merger amg, vs handbuilt vs bs marketing is something lots of posters on here argue about. Getting an older AMG had rarity or a limited nature attached to the purchase vs buying or downloading. a tune that is not limited or "crafted". Unfortunately, AMG is now watered down and Aftermarket tuners are stepping up their game. As mentioned above, of the 209 wagons, the pre face lift did not have all S (p30) cars in the US (it was a pricey option at the time) but all e63 2014 on were of the S package, in the US. Using the directory you can vin search and get an idea of what was out there and what is still out there. I updated my info there when I got my car.
Regardless of the details, enjoy your beast.
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04-11-2023, 02:22 PM
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The performance package was like a stock MB warranteed "chip tune" and if im not mistaken, renntech tuning (not including turbos DPs etc) does not improve much on that, if at all. Not hating on you, just trying to help you understand the dynamics of the options. Renntech is not at all related to AMG. AMG is a historical mb tuner that then worked with and was then purchased by MB while renntech was offered by individual dealers as a dealer warrantied AFTERMARKET option. AMG laid the groundwork for many "tuners" that followed. Knowing the value of pre merger amg, vs handbuilt vs bs marketing is something lots of posters on here argue about. Getting an older AMG had rarity or a limited nature attached to the purchase vs buying or downloading. a tune that is not limited or "crafted". Unfortunately, AMG is now watered down and Aftermarket tuners are stepping up their game. As mentioned above, of the 209 wagons, the pre face lift did not have all S (p30) cars in the US (it was a pricey option at the time) but all e63 2014 on were of the S package, in the US. Using the directory you can vin search and get an idea of what was out there and what is still out there. I updated my info there when I got my car.
Regardless of the details, enjoy your beast.
Regardless of the details, enjoy your beast.
renntech was started by an amg engine builder who works quite closely with amg still now, and hence as far as aftermarket tuners go, i suspect they are pretty close to the amg folks.
i think these wagons of the last 15 years will hold their values well, but as you say, they are not in the same league as pre-merger amg cars in terms of collectability.
but the advantage is that they have factory support and they work quite well.
10-08-2023, 08:21 PM
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I was plugging all these numbers into chatgpt, looks like my car may be 1 of 1 based on those gtcarlot specs.
"So if the total world production for all variants of the 2016 w212 was 115,900.
roughly 20% of all w212 were sold in north america
1.2% of w212 were e63 s model amg
0.3% were designo Cardinal Red Metallic
0.1% had the designo sand interior...
How many would you estimate are like mine in north america?"
chatgpt: "To estimate the number of 2016 Mercedes-Benz W212 E63 S Model AMG vehicles with the "Designo Cardinal Red Metallic" exterior color and the "Designo Sand" interior in North America, you can follow these steps:Step 1: Total E63 S Model AMG = (1.2 / 100) * 115,900 ≈ 1,391
Step 2: Total Red Metallic E63 S Model AMG = (0.3 / 100) * 1,391 ≈ 4
Step 3: Total Red Metallic E63 S Model AMG with Sand Interior = (0.1 / 100) * 4 ≈ 0.004 (rounded to the nearest whole number, which is effectively 0)
Step 4: Estimated North America = (20 / 100) * 0 ≈ 0
Based on the percentages and the estimated total production, it appears that there might be no cars exactly like yours (2016 W212 E63 S Model AMG with "Designo Cardinal Red Metallic" exterior color and "Designo Sand" interior) in North America. Please note that these are estimates and the actual number could be very low or even non-existent due to specific combinations of options and colors."
"So if the total world production for all variants of the 2016 w212 was 115,900.
roughly 20% of all w212 were sold in north america
1.2% of w212 were e63 s model amg
0.3% were designo Cardinal Red Metallic
0.1% had the designo sand interior...
How many would you estimate are like mine in north america?"
chatgpt: "To estimate the number of 2016 Mercedes-Benz W212 E63 S Model AMG vehicles with the "Designo Cardinal Red Metallic" exterior color and the "Designo Sand" interior in North America, you can follow these steps:Step 1: Total E63 S Model AMG = (1.2 / 100) * 115,900 ≈ 1,391
Step 2: Total Red Metallic E63 S Model AMG = (0.3 / 100) * 1,391 ≈ 4
Step 3: Total Red Metallic E63 S Model AMG with Sand Interior = (0.1 / 100) * 4 ≈ 0.004 (rounded to the nearest whole number, which is effectively 0)
Step 4: Estimated North America = (20 / 100) * 0 ≈ 0
Based on the percentages and the estimated total production, it appears that there might be no cars exactly like yours (2016 W212 E63 S Model AMG with "Designo Cardinal Red Metallic" exterior color and "Designo Sand" interior) in North America. Please note that these are estimates and the actual number could be very low or even non-existent due to specific combinations of options and colors."
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Cardinal Red is also known as Hyacinth with the color code for both being 996U. I just checked it against a database that I have and found 22 E63S's made in for the NA market. Of those, 2 had sand interiors - the majority had black. Hope that helps.
