Respray on 2016 E63s
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I mentioned earlier in this thread that I had my front end done. Here is the link so that you can see how thoroughly they disassembled everything for painting.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-underway.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...-underway.html
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The problem with painting any car nowadays is the products used. I'm guessing all newer MB stuff is water colors, as most new cars are. And lots of collision shops also use water colors now as well.
Water colors are single stage paints, that is no hardener is added. The water has to air dry out before something like a clear coat is added. I have a car that the trunk lid was painted with a water color base, and they likely didn't dry it very well, because after its first winter freeze it blistered. Water colors are junk paint no matter what anyone says, you would be better off with Rustoleum as a base coat than a water color. Quality paint and quality paint jobs run very high. I agree with the one fellow that says there is almost nothing to mask when doing a quality paint job, as the whole body is bare, that is how a factory paint job is done.
Water colors are single stage paints, that is no hardener is added. The water has to air dry out before something like a clear coat is added. I have a car that the trunk lid was painted with a water color base, and they likely didn't dry it very well, because after its first winter freeze it blistered. Water colors are junk paint no matter what anyone says, you would be better off with Rustoleum as a base coat than a water color. Quality paint and quality paint jobs run very high. I agree with the one fellow that says there is almost nothing to mask when doing a quality paint job, as the whole body is bare, that is how a factory paint job is done.
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Stopped by today (03/19/19) to take delivery and noticed some additional problem areas. Nothing serious, just needs a bit more work. I'd rather have them take the extra time now. After I get the car, it will sit in the garage for 1 month and then I will have it ppf and ceramic coated to minimize the chances of having similar damage in the future.
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I am referring to a complete and proper respray including prep. Literally every piece of exterior trim is removed. If it clips, screws, bolts to, or is glued to the outside of the vehicle it comes off. Some parts must then be replaced as they aren't reusable. Windshields removed. Doors removed, all trim removed from doors including windows. Bumpers removed and completely disassembled. Side skirts removed. Headlights removed. Etc... Just as it is done at factory. There should be no tape lines or evidence of a respray when done properly. Most do not do it properly...
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all exterior trim was removed
all front facia trim pieces (silver pieces) replaced with factory new from MB
factory new MB stamped front windshield installed/removed for respray
factory new MB active curve headlamps installed/removed for respray
door handles removed for respray
rear window removed for respray
all trim around doors removed for respray
front facia/bumper removed for respray
rear bumper removed for respray
side skirts trim pieces removed
all factory new MB clips/old clips were not used
the cost came close to $20K
all front facia trim pieces (silver pieces) replaced with factory new from MB
factory new MB stamped front windshield installed/removed for respray
factory new MB active curve headlamps installed/removed for respray
door handles removed for respray
rear window removed for respray
all trim around doors removed for respray
front facia/bumper removed for respray
rear bumper removed for respray
side skirts trim pieces removed
all factory new MB clips/old clips were not used
the cost came close to $20K
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From: MD
S 63 Coupe, GLS 63
all exterior trim was removed
all front facia trim pieces (silver pieces) replaced with factory new from MB
factory new MB stamped front windshield installed/removed for respray
factory new MB active curve headlamps installed/removed for respray
door handles removed for respray
rear window removed for respray
all trim around doors removed for respray
front facia/bumper removed for respray
rear bumper removed for respray
side skirts trim pieces removed
all factory new MB clips/old clips were not used
the cost came close to $20K
all front facia trim pieces (silver pieces) replaced with factory new from MB
factory new MB stamped front windshield installed/removed for respray
factory new MB active curve headlamps installed/removed for respray
door handles removed for respray
rear window removed for respray
all trim around doors removed for respray
front facia/bumper removed for respray
rear bumper removed for respray
side skirts trim pieces removed
all factory new MB clips/old clips were not used
the cost came close to $20K
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My previous 2015 E63 was in the body shop (at a local Chevrolet dealership) three times: rear bumper repainted after a hit/run in a parking lot, passenger side front and rear doors repaired and repainted after another parking lot incident, and driver's side front door and fender replaced after being torn off by a valet parking attendant. After lease turn-in, the car ended up at a dealership in Atlanta, where it's still for sale with a clean carfax, 1 owner, no accidents, no damage reported. The three body shop visits are on the carfax report, but reported as "vehicle serviced", at the Chevrolet dealership (no mention of body shop).
So, if you're looking at an obsidian black/black 2015 in Atlanta with 50k-ish miles and a clean carfax, buyer beware!
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Insurance may report for a collision claim especially involving another party and a police report is written. DMV is usually notified and results in points against ones driving record.
In my case, it is being handled as a comprehensive claim (damage cause to car by events that are out of your control). No police report was written, no notification to DMV and it won't affect my insurance premium.
Insurance likely won't report to CarFax, Body Shop will not report to CarFax and DMV was not notified so it is likely this won't appear on a CarFax. If it does, I am not worried as I plan on keeping the vehicle for some time.
In my case, it is being handled as a comprehensive claim (damage cause to car by events that are out of your control). No police report was written, no notification to DMV and it won't affect my insurance premium.
Insurance likely won't report to CarFax, Body Shop will not report to CarFax and DMV was not notified so it is likely this won't appear on a CarFax. If it does, I am not worried as I plan on keeping the vehicle for some time.
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RE - cost of respray
The cost can vary quite a bit depending on where you have it done and the type of work done. An Maaco respray in Tucson, AZ is $499. A full strip parts/proper prep/competent spray can easily set you back $20K or more in Silicon Valley.
The cost can vary quite a bit depending on where you have it done and the type of work done. An Maaco respray in Tucson, AZ is $499. A full strip parts/proper prep/competent spray can easily set you back $20K or more in Silicon Valley.
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2019 GLC 63 SUV, 2013 SLK55
all exterior trim was removed
all front facia trim pieces (silver pieces) replaced with factory new from MB
factory new MB stamped front windshield installed/removed for respray
factory new MB active curve headlamps installed/removed for respray
door handles removed for respray
rear window removed for respray
all trim around doors removed for respray
front facia/bumper removed for respray
rear bumper removed for respray
side skirts trim pieces removed
all factory new MB clips/old clips were not used
the cost came close to $20K
all front facia trim pieces (silver pieces) replaced with factory new from MB
factory new MB stamped front windshield installed/removed for respray
factory new MB active curve headlamps installed/removed for respray
door handles removed for respray
rear window removed for respray
all trim around doors removed for respray
front facia/bumper removed for respray
rear bumper removed for respray
side skirts trim pieces removed
all factory new MB clips/old clips were not used
the cost came close to $20K
