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Old 04-12-2019, 12:13 PM
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Peter - i am in nearly the exact same situation with 30k miles and needing brakes on all 4 corners. Dealer quoted me just under 1500 for rear rotor/pads/labor and 3500 for front rotor/pads/labor.


The MB OEM rear rotor is around $175 each, but you can go with other options like these Zimmerman rear rotors from FCP (100 bucks each) and their MB rear pads (283 for set). The FCP price on the rear pads is a bit high, BUT you get their lifetime replacement warranty with these so in theory you would never buy rear rotors/pads again!




Rear Brakes:
Mercedes Disc Brake - Zimmermann 2124230412 - 2 total @ 102.65 each
Mercedes Disc Brake Pad - Genuine Mercedes 0004203400 1 total @ $283 each (is this 2 sets of pads per the picture, or only 1 pad/set)


FCP also has a front rotor option here that their site says FITS for a 14/15 E63S W212 and I've been emailing Kyle to confirm that since the rotor is also showing as a fit for the 07-11 E63 and some even older AMGs.


Front Brakes:
Mercedes Brake Disc - Brembo 2194210212 2 total @ $459 each (https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bra...210212#fitment)

Mercedes Disc Brake Pad - Genuine Mercedes 0004204400 - 1 total @ $361 each (is this 2 sets of pads per the picture, or only 1 pad/set)

If these parts from FCP do indeed fit / plug and play that would be awesome as for $1500 in parts you would have rotors/pads covered for the life of your car with FCPs lifetime warranty..... I was strongly considering the Girodisc's and getting them from the AM S guys who resell them...but if I can get these FCP guys to confirm this front rotor is a fit then i'm going that direction.

I've been researching these front rotor options for a week now and this is the best i've been able to find
quick update - i ordered the front/rear rotors from FCP here which were about 1100 total (rears were 100 each / fronts 459 each - with lifetime replacement warranty!). I bought the EBC Redstuff front and rear pads for 300 total shipped from BuyBrakes.com (with BIG25 discount code) and will have my indy guy install them next week when they arrive.

my brake wear sensor just triggered at 30k miles and i'm at 30,300 now and on original front rotor/pad and on 2nd rear rotor/pad set. Never tracked the car but do drive/brake hard when out on the chitown freeways enjoy the car so for me not surprised that I'm having to replace. will let you know how the rotors from FCP turn out (MB OEM front but different P/N which they confirm works with W212 E63 and ZImmerman rear) as they are much cheaper than OEM (which are 700+ each x4) and can be replaced for free with the FCP lifetime warranty (hopefuly that is still true in 2-3 years when I'll need replacing!)
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quick update - i ordered the front/rear rotors from FCP here which were about 1100 total (rears were 100 each / fronts 459 each - with lifetime replacement warranty!). I bought the EBC Redstuff front and rear pads for 300 total shipped from BuyBrakes.com (with BIG25 discount code) and will have my indy guy install them next week when they arrive.

my brake wear sensor just triggered at 30k miles and i'm at 30,300 now and on original front rotor/pad and on 2nd rear rotor/pad set. Never tracked the car but do drive/brake hard when out on the chitown freeways enjoy the car so for me not surprised that I'm having to replace. will let you know how the rotors from FCP turn out (MB OEM front but different P/N which they confirm works with W212 E63 and ZImmerman rear) as they are much cheaper than OEM (which are 700+ each x4) and can be replaced for free with the FCP lifetime warranty (hopefuly that is still true in 2-3 years when I'll need replacing!)
i may go this route based on your review of the setup:

fluid motor union quoted me 1157.00 for rear rotors and pads replaced; I'll see what they want just for pads ... all items are oem benz parts.
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$256 for pads and sensor rear with labor

$500 for pads and sensor fronts with labor


using same existing rotors.
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$256 for pads and sensor rear with labor

$500 for pads and sensor fronts with labor


using same existing rotors.
peter - the price on rears seems ok if MB OEM parts. The front seem high.... I bought EBC redstuff pads for front and rear for 300 total. Supposedly much lower dust and 20% better braking power.

the rear MB OEM pads are 300 bux and wear sensor is 10 bux (only need 1 for rear and 1 for front)
https://www.genuinemercedesparts.com...bC12OC1nYXM%3D

Front MB OEM pads are also 300 bux.
https://www.genuinemercedesparts.com...UtNWwtdjgtZ2Fz

I get my parts next week and my Indy guy will install so will report back by next weekend my feedback.
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peter - the price on rears seems ok if MB OEM parts. The front seem high.... I bought EBC redstuff pads for front and rear for 300 total. Supposedly much lower dust and 20% better braking power.

the rear MB OEM pads are 300 bux and wear sensor is 10 bux (only need 1 for rear and 1 for front)
https://www.genuinemercedesparts.com...bC12OC1nYXM%3D

Front MB OEM pads are also 300 bux.
https://www.genuinemercedesparts.com...UtNWwtdjgtZ2Fz

I get my parts next week and my Indy guy will install so will report back by next weekend my feedback.
awesome thanks man, looking forward to your feedback --- where is your Indy, palatine/desplaines?
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Go with Girodisc and Rado pads from world Motorsport if you plan on keep the E63 a while Peter. It’s lighter, better performance and way better looking than the OEM rotors. Cheaper and you can just change the rotor rings on your next set of rotors instead of changing the entire rotor.
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Sorry to dredge thread, but not ancient, and seems unresolved.
I've got a '14 E63S T, 23k mi, needs rotors and pads. I track some, drive hard on roads, fortunately have room to do so.

Rear discs cheap, fronts not. Someone mentioned vanes go wrong way on a 2pc rotor, isn't that a matter of swapping rotor itself around on respective hat?
FCP Euro and RB fitment not particularly clear.

Pads another matter. I went thru 3-4 sets of EBC Red's on front of W12 Audi in 45k mi, never tried Yellow.

JVakos, any updates??
TIA
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Originally Posted by S63AMG888
Go with Girodisc and Rado pads from world Motorsport if you plan on keep the E63 a while Peter. It’s lighter, better performance and way better looking than the OEM rotors. Cheaper and you can just change the rotor rings on your next set of rotors instead of changing the entire rotor.
I went with Girodisc rotors too F&R, but bought thier magic pads instead. I have 30k miles on my car and the rotors have quite a bit of lippage. Will install in a couple weeks. You can buy direct from them btw. I'm only 20 mins away so it was easy. Good people and they have quite the operation set up there.
Will give an update after the install.

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AMS will do my pads and rotors in rear for $720.00 parts and labor

Stoptech rotors and hawk pads
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Sorry to dredge thread, but not ancient, and seems unresolved.
I've got a '14 E63S T, 23k mi, needs rotors and pads. I track some, drive hard on roads, fortunately have room to do so.

Rear discs cheap, fronts not. Someone mentioned vanes go wrong way on a 2pc rotor, isn't that a matter of swapping rotor itself around on respective hat?
FCP Euro and RB fitment not particularly clear.

Pads another matter. I went thru 3-4 sets of EBC Red's on front of W12 Audi in 45k mi, never tried Yellow.

JVakos, any updates??
TIA
Sorry guys for the delay - but I finally got the brake job done this weekend when my Indy guy had time to do it.

Below again are all the parts info and where I bought them (FCP Euro and Buybrakes.com).

Total cost for 2 new Brembo front rotors (900 total) , 2 new Zimmerman rear rotors (200 total) and EBC Red front and rear pads (300 total) plus 3 hours of Indy mechanic labor (300 total) was $1800. My dealer quoted me 5500 for all new rotor and pads with MB OEM parts just to give a comparison.

First impression is the EBC Red pads and these Brembo snd Zimmerman rotors are every bit as good as OEM and maybe the EBC Reds are slightly better stopping power with firmer initial bite when you brake

Note, i don’t track my car but do drive it hard as it’s meant to be driven as an AMG and this brake set up seems really good and every bit as good as OEM for under 2k with lifetime replacement on the rotors!

i have read that the EBC reds are better perform brakes vs stoeck BUT they are harder on the rotors and accelerate rotor wear, which if true makes these rotors from FCP seem a no brainer since they are lifetime warranty and free replacement from FCP.


https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...mer-2124230412
(200 each rear rotor - lifetime replace warranty)


https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bra...mbo-2194210212
(450 each front rotor - lifetime replace warranty)

https://www.buybrakes.com/mercedes-b...mic-brake-pads (304 total EBC red front and rear pads shipped)

heres some one pics of the new rotors and pads which didn’t come out great but wanted to share.




Brembo front rotor





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Found full Brembo rotors

Hi All
Finally got serious about doing brakes on the 14.
Looked at the places in links, and hunted for the part numbers. Brembo is oem supplier, I’ve used their stuff for decades.

Rotors
Found Front Brembo 2pc rotors 219 421 0212 which corresponds to Brembo 09.9764.23. $702.00/pair
Www.newparts.com, I called, spoke with Dave
Rear Brembo one piece 212 423 0412 which corresponds to Brembo 09.A822.11 $161.45/pair
So, F/R rotors free shipping for $966.90.
Called this am got tracking 2hr later.
No relation, new customer, yadayada.

Pads
Brembo pads oem supplier stock equivalent
Front P50127N $58.85/pair
Rear P50052N $44.60/pair
Newparts.com again.

Buybrakes.com has Stoptech sale,
Fronts I used 309.12910 $186.68/pair
I track so needed more than EBC Redstuff. These have better specs and heat range than Yellow stuff, and are pretty reasonable, good rep with track friends.

So, hope this update helps, the previous posts did, thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by keyserS
Hi All
Finally got serious about doing brakes on the 14.
Looked at the places in links, and hunted for the part numbers. Brembo is oem supplier, I’ve used their stuff for decades.

Rotors
Found Front Brembo 2pc rotors 219 421 0212 which corresponds to Brembo 09.9764.23. $702.00/pair
Www.newparts.com, I called, spoke with Dave
Rear Brembo one piece 212 423 0412 which corresponds to Brembo 09.A822.11 $161.45/pair
So, F/R rotors free shipping for $966.90.
Called this am got tracking 2hr later.
No relation, new customer, yadayada.

Pads
Brembo pads oem supplier stock equivalent
Front P50127N $58.85/pair
Rear P50052N $44.60/pair
Newparts.com again.

Buybrakes.com has Stoptech sale,
Fronts I used 309.12910 $186.68/pair
I track so needed more than EBC Redstuff. These have better specs and heat range than Yellow stuff, and are pretty reasonable, good rep with track friends.

So, hope this update helps, the previous posts did, thanks guys.
did they give you a special price or something? newparts.com has them listed for $700 per rotor, then places like FCP Euro has them for $426 a disk. I can't find the rears for anywhere near that price either. $1k delivered for 4 rotors is an amazing price!
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No special price

The fronts are 702/pair. Call them. I’d never dealt with them before, but they were awesome. I mentioned Dave I called. I ordered on phone. Website clunky.
They advertise on eBay as well but why bother.
Rears cheap too. 161.45 each. Free ship.
F/R rotors 863.45 shipped, I got stock rear Ferodo pads too. But just rotors alone dirt cheap

Front out of box. 2 piece.

By my front wheel. Rears just as nice.

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Originally Posted by keyserS
Hi All
Finally got serious about doing brakes on the 14.
Looked at the places in links, and hunted for the part numbers. Brembo is oem supplier, I’ve used their stuff for decades.

Rotors
Found Front Brembo 2pc rotors 219 421 0212 which corresponds to Brembo 09.9764.23. $702.00/pair
Www.newparts.com, I called, spoke with Dave
Rear Brembo one piece 212 423 0412 which corresponds to Brembo 09.A822.11 $161.45/pair
So, F/R rotors free shipping for $966.90.
Called this am got tracking 2hr later.
No relation, new customer, yadayada.

Pads
Brembo pads oem supplier stock equivalent
Front P50127N $58.85/pair
Rear P50052N $44.60/pair
Newparts.com again.

Buybrakes.com has Stoptech sale,
Fronts I used 309.12910 $186.68/pair
I track so needed more than EBC Redstuff. These have better specs and heat range than Yellow stuff, and are pretty reasonable, good rep with track friends.

So, hope this update helps, the previous posts did, thanks guys.
Sorry can you please confirm which pad you are using and your impressions vs. OEM ? I will be doing brakes soon and will likely upgrade to the 390mm rotor (SLS) and wondering which pad I should go with. I hate the amount of dust the OEMs create and the fade is noticeable after a few high speed stops. That said, I don't want a pad that has bad characteristics for the street. Thanks
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For me the estimate is 665.37 for my rears with rotors.....that includes labor, brake pads with shim, rotors pad wear sensor. This is from the indy shop.
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For me the estimate is 665.37 for my rears with rotors.....that includes labor, brake pads with shim, rotors pad wear sensor. This is from the indy shop.
That's about what my Indy, ams, told me too
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What is the weight of those front 2-pc Brembo's compared to stock 2-pc?
Its the same rotor. The Brembo is what Mercedes uses but with their part number.
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Anyone here who has used the Brembos through FCP for a long time, to the point where brake pads had to be replaced?
I am in the market to purchase the brakes but I was told that Brembo rotors will need to be replaced every time I'll put new pads, I was recommended to go Girodisc since that'll last me 2-3 set of pads on the same rotor.
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I just did my friend's 2012 ML63 rears took about 40 minutes with beers.
His job was to have the wheels off/on and car in the air. I got him EBC red second pad change at 30k and rotors are good.
Next time will be rotors and pads all 4 and fluid.
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Cij911- "I will be doing brakes soon and will likely upgrade to the 390mm rotor (SLS"

What good does this do if your caliper and pad are stock size? To me a larger rotor only makes sense if you can increase pad size
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It will result in cooler running brakes since the larger rotors will be able to absorb and dissipate more heat than the smaller rotors. Waste of time and money unless you are tracking the car or doing repeated high speed runs with rapid deceleration.
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Sorry can you please confirm which pad you are using and your impressions vs. OEM ? I will be doing brakes soon and will likely upgrade to the 390mm rotor (SLS) and wondering which pad I should go with. I hate the amount of dust the OEMs create and the fade is noticeable after a few high speed stops. That said, I don't want a pad that has bad characteristics for the street. Thanks


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Hi All
Finally got serious about doing brakes on the 14.
Looked at the places in links, and hunted for the part numbers. Brembo is oem supplier, I’ve used their stuff for decades.

Rotors
Found Front Brembo 2pc rotors 219 421 0212 which corresponds to Brembo 09.9764.23. $702.00/pair
Www.newparts.com, I called, spoke with Dave
Rear Brembo one piece 212 423 0412 which corresponds to Brembo 09.A822.11 $161.45/pair
So, F/R rotors free shipping for $966.90.
Called this am got tracking 2hr later.
No relation, new customer, yadayada.

Pads
Brembo pads oem supplier stock equivalent
Front P50127N $58.85/pair
Rear P50052N $44.60/pair
Newparts.com again.

Buybrakes.com has Stoptech sale,
Fronts I used 309.12910 $186.68/pair
I track so needed more than EBC Redstuff. These have better specs and heat range than Yellow stuff, and are pretty reasonable, good rep with track friends.

So, hope this update helps, the previous posts did, thanks guys.
Sorry can you please confirm which pad you are using and your impressions vs. OEM ? I will be doing brakes soon and will likely upgrade to the 390mm rotor (SLS) and wondering which pad I should go with. I hate the amount of dust the OEMs create and the fade is noticeable after a few high speed stops. That said, I don't want a pad that has bad characteristics for the street. Thanks
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Did you end up going to AMS? I need to swap out my rotors too. I'm in St. Charles. If so how did they do?


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AMS will do my pads and rotors in rear for $720.00 parts and labor

Stoptech rotors and hawk pads


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