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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 08:51 AM
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Car at Dealer for Random Messages (radar related)

2014 e63s still under extended warranty....

So I have now for the second time received error messages on the dash. The previous time, they all cleared themselves before I could get the car to the dealer. This time I took pictures and have the car at the dealer to diagnose. I have searched and found many others with a variety of MB platforms that have had these issues, but it is unclear as to the real issue as often people have it happen again after sensors and other parts have been swapped. I am hoping to get some more guided information from folks that have already dealt with this problem and have an understanding of electrical systems.

Here are the error messages:
  1. Pre Safe Functions Limited
  2. Active Lane Keeping Assist Inoperative
  3. Adaptive Highbeam Assist Inoperative
  4. DTR+: Steering Assist Inoperative
So items 1, 2, & 4 definitely appear to be related to radar - either distance or where the car is on the road. The odd thing is the problem appears intermittent and my understanding of electronics is when they fail, they fail. So my concern is part swapping (dealer fixes) may not be the real solution. From my experience, intermittent electrical problems are often caused by a poor connection / pinched wire or loose ground. My e55 used to have weird error messages when the AUX battery was not charging properly or low (unfortunately I checked the batteries and they appear fine).

Quick Update: They have ordered a Chassis Gateway that connects all of the systems mentioned.....Should know by end of day tomorrow....

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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 10:23 AM
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Sensors dirty?
Windshield Dirty at top middle?
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ygmn
Sensors dirty?
Windshield Dirty at top middle?
Great idea, thanks. That said, I don't think that is the issue as the car is very clean. Put differently if the amount of dirt on the windshield or sensors is the issue, then there is a serious system design issue. I am still waiting on the dealer, but from what I have read on the web re this issue, I not expecting a logical or real answer.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 06:41 PM
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I have had those pop up 3 times in about 6 months. I think it is to do with dirty sensors. It always clears itself.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mdotk
I have had those pop up 3 times in about 6 months. I think it is to do with dirty sensors. It always clears itself.
Do you know which sensor was dirty? Seems odd that it would be so sensitive. Can you imagine if you were driving in the rain or snow??
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cij911
Do you know which sensor was dirty? Seems odd that it would be so sensitive. Can you imagine if you were driving in the rain or snow??
In heavy snow I get these messages a lot ... the wipers actually clear the cameras for distro and this may be a harness issue or a relay issue
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Also can be low aux. battery.
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Old Aug 1, 2019 | 02:08 PM
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Also can be low aux. battery.
+1, What ^ he said
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Both batteries test 12+ v....

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Both batteries test 12+ v....

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12v while loaded? Many batteries will test at 12v without load but still be defective or on their way out. If you have a 2014 and have never replaced the aux battery, there's a decent chance it's due.

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