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Old 10-08-2019 | 11:27 AM
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Exhaust - for us chickens...

I do like the stock sound of our cars but wanted a little bit deeper sound, sliver more volume (esp up high) and no drone.
After reading all the threads, I decided to do what chiromikey recommended.
Remove rear resonator (number II in the picture below - courtesy of RedRacer), replaced with H pipe with a 1.5" cross pipe. I know chiromikey also removed the cats but I live in Mass so that's an automatic no-no. In addition, I'm still under warranty so that's a double no-no.

Sound is perfect for me. Just a bit more rumble, a bit deeper, more volume at 3k+ rpms, and zero drone.
For those of you that are exhaust chickens like me, this is a safe one.

Old 10-08-2019 | 12:01 PM
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Great advice! Any chance you can post a video to hear how she sounds ?
Old 10-08-2019 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tcomb
Great advice! Any chance you can post a video to hear how she sounds ?
Happy to try.
Sadly I did not do a "before" one using the same phone so very hard to compare since the difference is pretty subtle. Not sure it will be useful enough without a before / after videos?
Looks like you are in the Boston area - feel free to stop by (send a PM and we can set something up).
Old 10-08-2019 | 12:57 PM
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Yeah, me too..

Did the same thing. A bit more growl at startup and WOT, but not obnoxious at all....
I have a new Pocket Osmo that I can't seem to operate, but I'll try a sound clip..
Old 10-08-2019 | 01:00 PM
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You should so do a video! I have been contemplating doing an H-Pipe setup, but curious to see what your sounds like. I wonder if increasing the size of the cross pipe, would make it deeper.
Old 10-08-2019 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Andriy242
You should so do a video! I have been contemplating doing an H-Pipe setup, but curious to see what your sounds like. I wonder if increasing the size of the cross pipe, would make it deeper.
Maybe. Again I know that chiromickey tried some different sizes and 1.5" was where he ended up.

I do not weld myself so for me it would be expensive to replace the center section repeatedly. Esp since the exhaust shop I use are sticklers for making things level, straight, and nicely painted etc. Hence real $$ to remove/replace many times.

But you go for it! And let us know the result.
Old 10-09-2019 | 10:29 AM
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I did that to mine as well but just did a straight pipe no hpipe or xpipe were the resonator was. Zero drone a little louder then before just made it sound perfect to me.
Old 10-09-2019 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by karpetcm
I did that to mine as well but just did a straight pipe no hpipe or xpipe were the resonator was. Zero drone a little louder then before just made it sound perfect to me.
Interesting - I though that made the sound "harsher", more like a US truck with straight pipes?
Cool.
Old 10-09-2019 | 11:21 AM
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Interesting - I though that made the sound "harsher", more like a US truck with straight pipes?
Cool.
Here is a vid of it.

Old 10-09-2019 | 08:08 PM
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@karpetcm sounds a ton louder tbh!
@allenjdmb @FastWgn vids pls!
Old 10-09-2019 | 08:27 PM
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@karpetcm sounds a ton louder tbh!
@allenjdmb @FastWgn vids pls!
from inside the car you would never know it, its slightly louder and most times can barely tell the difference. Outside is a bit of a different story. Here is another me driving by full throttle audio cuts out due to my phone being used to record it is trying to connect to the car. I have a few vids on my channel you'll hear me talk and there is no exhaust sound that you would be able to notice its really that quiet in the car.


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Old 10-09-2019 | 10:23 PM
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good to see mine isnt the only one that has a slight hiss at idle. i was thinking it might be a leak or something. sounds great, Karpet. its really is the best bang for the buck that you can get on these cars. i went with straight pipes for the delete as i couldnt find concrete info as to why an X or H-pipe would be beneficial on a turbo'd engine....

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Old 10-09-2019 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1MavRick
good to see mine isnt the only one that has a slight hiss at idle. i was thinking it might be a leak or something. sounds great, Karpet. its really is the best bang for the buck that you can get on these cars. i went with straight pipes for the delete as i couldnt find concrete info as to why an X or H-pipe would be beneficial on a turbo'd engine....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rWIGF4UKzw
ya love it sounds really nice, great vid.
Old 10-10-2019 | 02:01 PM
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Exhaust chicken here too, well, there's the wife factor too but that's another story....I went with resonator delete and straight pipe, no X or H. In comfort mode there is really no difference in sound. In S mode I get some pops and burbles, but still relatively tame. In S+ or M things get louder, downshifts are aggressive, but nothing obnoxious. Im wanting just a bit more sound, so I am considering deleting the cats next. I also have the Eurocharged Stage 1 tune, but this shouldn't change the exhaust note. I will try to post 3 different video iterations of changes I made. 1st one is an AMR Stage 1 +burble tune. I didn't like the artificial pops, so I ended up taking that tune off.



Old 10-10-2019 | 02:17 PM
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This video was shot at the shop with resonator delete to straight pipe. Still has the AMR burble tune. Mufflers stock on all of these

Old 10-10-2019 | 02:20 PM
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Cold start. Resonator delete.

Old 10-10-2019 | 02:28 PM
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In this shot I had the Eurocharged Stage 1 tune (which is fun BTW) and resonator delete straight pipe to stock mufflers. No burble tune. I like this sound best, there are still come mild burbles and crackles coming down through 2200 RPM, but not nearly as obnoxious as the burble tune. I know there are plenty of folks who like that sound, and good on you. Its just not my thing, though I am glad I tried it. I think the resonator delete gives it a bit deeper growl while keeping that lovely AMG sound. There is no drone. Will have to decide on the cat delete to X or H pipe. The tunes are super easy as they use the My Genius handheld which hooks up to your OBD2 port and only takes a few minutes to add or delete the tune. I have not put the car on the dyno, so I have no idea of actual numbers.


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Old 10-16-2019 | 07:21 AM
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I built an H pipe for mine this weekend. I used a 2" crossover pipe which, after seeing the small diameter of the crossover inside the stock resonator, is probably too large. The sound is like stock with a little more volume. I just did a ~600-mile road trip in the car. No drone. If anything it's too quiet for the amount of time I spent building the damned thing.
I chose an H over straight pipes because I did not want the snap that seems to come with them on these cars. Also, I may replace the mufflers eventually, and it will be nice to have the H to cut the sound down if I go to a straight-through muffler.




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If you do an H or X pipe, it's only about the sound on the M157. They do nothing for a turbocharged engine. Straight pipes are best for performance on a turbocharged engine. The faster you can get the air out of the way the better the engine will perform.
Old 10-16-2019 | 08:04 AM
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Mine is an M156 car, but I did this mod purely for the sound.

I haven't started chasing more power with this thing yet. Mine needs an LSD more than it needs extra power.
Old 10-16-2019 | 09:32 AM
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M156, you definitely want an x pipe or H pipe to equalize the exhaust pulses. Headers would do you some good too.
Old 10-16-2019 | 09:40 AM
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The pics in my post above are of my car. The H-pipe shown is what I built, installed on my car.
Old 10-16-2019 | 09:56 AM
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I admire your welding skills! I am going for sound only, not performance.
Put an external mic on yesterday for a little test in traffic. This is resonator replaced with straight pipe, Eurocharged Stage 1 tune. Heading to shop today for cat delete H Pipe. Will try to update.
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Sound is crappy on phone, use either desktop or headphones.
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Old 10-16-2019 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DesiredNameTkn
I admire your welding skills! I am going for sound only, not performance.
Put an external mic on yesterday for a little test in traffic. This is resonator replaced with straight pipe, Eurocharged Stage 1 tune. Heading to shop today for cat delete H Pipe. Will try to update.
Dropbox share

Sound is crappy on phone, use either desktop or headphones.
I wouldn't call it skill but thanks lol. They look OK from a few feet away, and they don't leak.
Old 11-07-2019 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGSIXTHREE
I built an H pipe for mine this weekend. I used a 2" crossover pipe which, after seeing the small diameter of the crossover inside the stock resonator, is probably too large. The sound is like stock with a little more volume. I just did a ~600-mile road trip in the car. No drone. If anything it's too quiet for the amount of time I spent building the damned thing.
I chose an H over straight pipes because I did not want the snap that seems to come with them on these cars. Also, I may replace the mufflers eventually, and it will be nice to have the H to cut the sound down if I go to a straight-through muffler.

What size piping did you use? 2.5?


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