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As title states, I have taken it to 3 diffrent places including Mercedes directly for balancing, still have slight vibration. Removed spacers still there, only thing I can think of is the mismatched tires front and back. Fronts are pirelli p zero with 6k on them and rears are pilot as3 with about 2k on them. Am I expecting to much from this car? I'm not saying it's vibrating badly, but enough to feel it on the seat and sometimes floor board. Car is stable at higher speeds. 140+ no issues one bit. Had the shop check the suspension, nothing is loose or out of spec. Any way to check the drive shaft bushings to see if that is bad? Car has 20k on the odometer
Last edited by Mojo20032004; 08-23-2021 at 10:59 PM.
Does braking amplify the vibrations? Lets say if youre doing 150 and when slowing down the vibration @85-90 gets amplified?
Im asking because im facing the exact same issue but in my case my tires are worn unevenly, the inner side on the fronts (Pzeros). Was thinking its tires/balance. Hopefully not a bent wheel.
I had a similar issue with my 63S . I also have Pzeros & have that inner edge wear starting in front , not terrible but its enough. Thought it was something worn in my suspension at first , but looks like a characteristic of these tires . I had a slight vibration around 80. Had the wheels rebalanced & all were only off slightly, but it will make a difference .Found a shop with a newer hunter road force machine & it solved my issue .
Come winter i'll have to ditch the pzero's , looking like a/s 3 or 4's from michelin is an upgrade..
Last edited by SilverE5588; 08-23-2021 at 10:13 PM.
Does braking amplify the vibrations? Lets say if youre doing 150 and when slowing down the vibration @85-90 gets amplified?
Im asking because im facing the exact same issue but in my case my tires are worn unevenly, the inner side on the fronts (Pzeros). Was thinking its tires/balance. Hopefully not a bent wheel.
Somewhat yes. The Fronts look good thread wear is even. If I knew it was the tires for sure I would replace them, but car came with brand new front tires and rears needed replacement hence why they are diffrent
Front rotors, and for me it was also my front driver
Side lower control arm bushing sliding out of the arm again for the 3rd time MB arm. I just replacement this weekend with a Rockauto 50 bucks arm and wmy vibration is gone.
A sign that my arm was going south was my steering wheel was moving off center. Now its centered again after the arm swap.
I am going to get a new MB bushing and weld it to the arm . at 180.00 an arm this is BS and now on my 4th arm.
My guess would be a bent rim. The oem wheels seem very soft and prone to becoming out of round. The first e63 i bought and returned from carvana with 20k miles on had all 4 wheels bent
My guess would be a bent rim. The oem wheels seem very soft and prone to becoming out of round. The first e63 i bought and returned from carvana with 20k miles on had all 4 wheels bent
Wouldn't a bent rim not balance right and have some hop to it?
Wouldn't a bent rim not balance right and have some hop to it?
Most of the time a bent rim will balance fine on a balancer. Of course if its bent square, no lol.
Minor bends usually will only be felt a certain speeds.
Get them to check the runout of the rims on both axis
Most of the time a bent rim will balance fine on a balancer. Of course if its bent square, no lol.
Minor bends usually will only be felt a certain speeds.
Get them to check the runout of the rims on both axis
How would one check for this? Something I can do at home, or even catch it with my eyes?
How would one check for this? Something I can do at home, or even catch it with my eyes?
I called a tire shop asking for a re-balance, a tech informed me that if it's bent they will be able to tell while doing a re-balance. Thats why I'm first gonna try that route, if that checks out then start with tires>rotors>suspension.
I called a tire shop asking for a re-balance, a tech informed me that if it's bent they will be able to tell while doing a re-balance. Thats why I'm first gonna try that route, if that checks out then start with tires>rotors>suspension.
My thoughts exactly as even MB tech didn't say anything about bent wheels
I called a tire shop asking for a re-balance, a tech informed me that if it's bent they will be able to tell while doing a re-balance. Thats why I'm first gonna try that route, if that checks out then start with tires>rotors>suspension.
I have a tire machine and balancer, yes, you can tell visually if its significant, minor bends need a gauge. Runout spec depends on manufacture, but usually 0.015-0.030" (less than 1mm)
Here is a slight bent carvana wheel : https://photos.app.*******/QKoMCzT7dcUEbDCw8
here is a very bent wheel: https://photos.app.*******/oRrdbMewUvKfo5Gi8
Edit: i guess MBworlds edits google out of links, what the heck. replace ***** with " goo . gl " (no spaces)
I have a tire machine and balancer, yes, you can tell visually if its significant, minor bends need a gauge. Runout spec depends on manufacture, but usually 0.015-0.030" (less than 1mm)
Here is a slight bent carvana wheel : https://photos.app.*******/QKoMCzT7dcUEbDCw8
here is a very bent wheel: https://photos.app.*******/oRrdbMewUvKfo5Gi8
Edit: i guess MBworlds edits google out of links, what the heck. replace ***** with " goo . gl " (no spaces)
I had the same issue after fixing two
bent wheels, new Michelin’s, and a rebalance at my long time friends tire shop. He hated to admit it but said MBZ in particular are so so sensitive that I needed a Hunter Road Force balancer, the closest was at Discount Tire, whom I despise, but that fixed it.
I had the same issue after fixing two
bent wheels, new Michelin’s, and a rebalance at my long time friends tire shop. He hated to admit it but said MBZ in particular are so so sensitive that I needed a Hunter Road Force balancer, the closest was at Discount Tire, whom I despise, but that fixed it.
Both my shops have the hunter machines.. I'm really hoping the highways in Chicago just suck!
Seems like this is more common than I thought. I do feel like my vibrations got more annoying since I started launching the car, don't think the previous owner launched it at all since it was babied its entire life. 7yrs of owning only 15k miles.. Il get the car on the lift when I do the oil change and see how the drive shaft area looks.
Has anyone tried maybe going 100-120mph,throw the car in neutral and let it coast while it slows down to around the mph the vibrations start at? This should remove any load being applied to the driveshaft thus possibly pin pointing the defective part?
Last edited by Mojo20032004; 08-25-2021 at 10:07 AM.
Side lower control arm bushing sliding out of the arm again for the 3rd time MB arm. I just replacement this weekend with a Rockauto 50 bucks arm and wmy vibration is gone.
A sign that my arm was going south was my steering wheel was moving off center. Now its centered again after the arm swap.
I am going to get a new MB bushing and weld it to the arm . at 180.00 an arm this is BS and now on my 4th arm.
Hey sorry to go off topic , but do you happen to have the torque specs for the 2 lower control arms ? or the specs for the arm above. Guessing as we approach 75k + mi. probably a good idea to refresh both lower arms anyway ..
The symptom points away from steering and/or front suspension. The steering wheel is as solid and smooth as new. New tires, new brake rotors/pads, new steering knuckles, new hubs/bearings, new lower ball joints. The control arms, steering rods, and stabilizer links are solid. Any vibration problems with the front wheels, brakes, suspension, steering would be apparent in the steering wheel. Nothing here. I conclude the issue is elsewhere.
Guys a little update here, both of my front wheels are bent. A flat spot on both, 28k miles on them. Also tires have a horrible inner wear on all of them. Alignment done less than 8k miles ago.
Guys a little update here, both of my front wheels are bent. A flat spot on both, 28k miles on them. Also tires have a horrible inner wear on all of them. Alignment done less than 8k miles ago.
I think one of my rears might be bent. I just came from a 600 mile round trip, and having to avoid 90mph was stressful. Will have a local wheel shop look at it and see what they find
I think one of my rears might be bent. I just came from a 600 mile round trip, and having to avoid 90mph was stressful. Will have a local wheel shop look at it and see what they find
Seems like these wheels bend way too easy so that would be the best course at this point, because i haven’t caught any nasty potholes or anything and they’re bent.
runout should be less than 1mm, lower the better obviously. even new ones arent perfect
It's also possible the tire on that one side is off, and the combination of bent him and tire causing issues. They will flip the tires around in the rear and go from there
08-23-2021, 07:43 PM
