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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 12:13 PM
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Interesting, it’s probably one of those things where just clear the CEL move on till it comes up again. Intakes perform fantastically so I guess I’d sacrifice it but for the price point you’d think there would be no issue. I’m currently tuned with DME maybe could be another reason but not sure.

but unfortunately it's not just as simple as clearing it in my
op . I tried that and it damaged my pvc unit and caused oil to
dunp into my intake . To much crank case pressure will
blow seals out because of blow by. So I personally had to fix the problem and come up with a solution
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Cifdig
but unfortunately it's not just as simple as clearing it in my
op . I tried that and it damaged my pvc unit and caused oil to
dunp into my intake . To much crank case pressure will
blow seals out because of blow by. So I personally had to fix the problem and come up with a solution

oh wow, so that code the part was throwing ended up actually being bad?
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by momo a
oh wow, so that code the part was throwing ended up actually being bad?

Yes it ended up failing and the check valve/door that opens and closes from vaccum and pressure no longer functioned because of the oil build up. The pcv hose has to be fabricated lower down closer to the compressor wheel in order to maintain a high enough vacuum during WOT that the pcv starts functioning. In the coming days I will start a thread on the intakes I have been working on and in there people can use what I did on my new intakes design and utilize it on these so that it works perfectly for anyone that's in need .
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 03:49 PM
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I fixed it by selling my BB intakes and running stock.
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 06:02 PM
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I fixed it by selling my BB intakes and running stock.

🤣. Scanned the code, ended up being the same code P1CE8.
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Old May 28, 2024 | 08:57 AM
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My friend has the same codes in his C63s with ZAC intakes. The car has an issue now, it cuts all power on WOT. It sets both this codes and Quantity control valve bank 2 - short circuit to positive. Can the Crankcase ventilation codes make the car cut all power on WOT? Or is it maybe the quantity control valve on bank 2 hpfp doing this... It is tuned with bigger turbos and spool performance fuelpumps.
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Old May 28, 2024 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jonteh
My friend has the same codes in his C63s with ZAC intakes. The car has an issue now, it cuts all power on WOT. It sets both this codes and Quantity control valve bank 2 - short circuit to positive. Can the Crankcase ventilation codes make the car cut all power on WOT? Or is it maybe the quantity control valve on bank 2 hpfp doing this... It is tuned with bigger turbos and spool performance fuelpumps.
We had a similar issue on a C63 locally, is he running a harness extension under the intake box? This car had the intake box over the extension and eventually rubbed enough to create a very small short cause the car to go into limp mode under WOT only. The wire looked completely fine until we removed the outside black sheild.
What I would do is disconnect the sensors from the back of the engine and run it without them and see if that fixes it
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Old May 28, 2024 | 01:11 PM
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Is it the air pressure sensors you are talking about? I dont have the car here at the moment so I cant check it right now but I will!
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cifdig
i figured this problem out a while back . I tried telling and informing people but unfortunately even after all the accurate information I've shared there's always that doubt lol . The issue is the pcv system is not seeing the same vaccum as before. The reason is the filter on the bb is now the easiest source of air woth least resistance. The pvc system has a check valve that operates during wide open throttle and because it's no longer seeing the same vac it won't open. This cause a bunch of issues .excessive pressure in the crank case. Dumps oil into your intake through the small hose in the back because the pressure is forced to escape that way bringing a bunch of oil. I bet anyone who has that code or atleast most will have a wet intake manifold inside coated with oil. I have been designing new high flow intakes for the past 2 years out of request for a friend that turned into a legit system that will Eliminate any code issue.


Brother please help me out, having those bank 1/2 crank case ventilation code and car losses power, my car has Zac’s intakes. Idk what’s up
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 03:18 PM
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Also curious about a solution. I have a Zac Intake and the same Bank 1 / 2 codes for crankcase ventilation at WOT. Is there a way to re-route any of the vacuum lines under the couplers at the turbos to get the vacuum back up?
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 09:26 AM
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I emailed Zac Motorsport and Greg told me to drill a hole in the end of the air filters and insert the MAP sensors in the end of each air filter. It was an easy mod, but I haven't been able to test whether the code re-appears or not because it's been snowing. Greg also mentioned making sure that the couplers (intake tubes to turbos) was seated all the way down onto the PCV blocks beneath them. I took mine off and re-installed them, but used a little grey silicon (automotive) to try and ensure a seal. Greg mentioned the same thing as other posts on this topic in that under WOT the check valve switches the PCV vacuum to be sourced from the little blocks I just referenced in the couplers, right in front of the turbos. Under normal driving though, the PCV vacuum is sourced from the intake near the throttle bodies. So the problem is like others have said.... the larger intakes / increased flow of the aftermarket intakes reduces the PCV vacuum.
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 12:04 PM
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this code is when the car sees less vacuum at WOT than anticpated. If it does not affect drivability then there is no issue.
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Got to take the car out for a spin today, only about 15 miles or so. No codes related to the P1CE8 after putting the sensors in the ends of the air filters in my ZAC intake. So far so good. Guess they needed to see that pressure differential to be happy versus being in the open air of the engine compartment.
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Old Jul 5, 2025 | 09:06 PM
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I emailed Zac Motorsport and Greg told me to drill a hole in the end of the air filters and insert the MAP sensors in the end of each air filter. It was an easy mod, but I haven't been able to test whether the code re-appears or not because it's been snowing. Greg also mentioned making sure that the couplers (intake tubes to turbos) was seated all the way down onto the PCV blocks beneath them. I took mine off and re-installed them, but used a little grey silicon (automotive) to try and ensure a seal. Greg mentioned the same thing as other posts on this topic in that under WOT the check valve switches the PCV vacuum to be sourced from the little blocks I just referenced in the couplers, right in front of the turbos. Under normal driving though, the PCV vacuum is sourced from the intake near the throttle bodies. So the problem is like others have said.... the larger intakes / increased flow of the aftermarket intakes reduces the PCV vacuum.
Hey can send a picture where you drilled the hole exactly and did you just reseal the old hole
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Old Jul 5, 2025 | 10:11 PM
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I just drilled into the exact center of the end of the air filter. There is no "old hole" to seal. I've been driving the car all summer with no codes.
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