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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 06:13 PM
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@PeterUbers - nope it’s never thrown a code and MB dealer for 2 years (while still under warranty) said it’s normal and they couldn’t recreate the issue.

I’m gonna pull my cam sensors and see if there’s oil on those as I was getting the sputtering start about every third or fourth time before changing the sensors, and it went away for about six months and just started again.

wonder if there is oil on the sensors if that likely is the cause of the sputtering start.
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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 06:41 PM
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@PeterUbers - nope it’s never thrown a code and MB dealer for 2 years (while still under warranty) said it’s normal and they couldn’t recreate the issue.

I’m gonna pull my cam sensors and see if there’s oil on those as I was getting the sputtering start about every third or fourth time before changing the sensors, and it went away for about six months and just started again.

wonder if there is oil on the sensors if that likely is the cause of the sputtering start.
And maybe the vibrations and the capillary action caused more oil to sneak in the pins ... you'll know immediately after you hit it all with crc cleaner ... if it's perfect start you know the culprit
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 02:08 PM
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Just saw this on YT. YT site has alot more links and applications to various models/engines.

Mercedes "Sacrificial Pigtail" (Just the pigtail) Mercedes Camshaft Solenoid Harness - Genuine Mercedes 2711500156 | FCP Euro

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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 05:23 PM
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How to Keep Oil From Damaging Your Mercedes' Wiring Harness - YouTube

Just saw this on YT. YT site has alot more links and applications to various models/engines.

Mercedes "Sacrificial Pigtail" (Just the pigtail) Mercedes Camshaft Solenoid Harness - Genuine Mercedes 2711500156 | FCP Euro

interesting, I thought these wouldn’t fit.
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 05:38 PM
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interesting, I thought these wouldn’t fit.
They only fit the magnets which are less likely to be a big leaker (it seems like the sensors on top are more problematic), but I installed them on both of my M157s because the magnets are much more annoying to replace vs the one bolt per sensor on the others. Cheap insurance!
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 05:51 PM
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They only fit the magnets which are less likely to be a big leaker (it seems like the sensors on top are more problematic), but I installed them on both of my M157s because the magnets are much more annoying to replace vs the one bolt per sensor on the others. Cheap insurance!
As I saw it on the FCP site, they also supply pigtail for cam sensors too.
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Old Jan 20, 2023 | 07:04 PM
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I left a comment on the fcp video and they confirmed same part For cps and magnet

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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 03:50 PM
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So it's confirmed these harnesses work for magnets and cps? I'm about to buy 8 of them
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
So it's confirmed these harnesses work for magnets and cps? I'm about to buy 8 of them
Harnesses are different so there should be 4 of one part number and 4 of another. Sorry I don't have the numbers handy.
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
So it's confirmed these harnesses work for magnets and cps? I'm about to buy 8 of them
Buy them, if they don't work for the magnets, il buy the 4 off you and pick them up since I'm local!
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Buy them, if they don't work for the magnets, il buy the 4 off you and pick them up since I'm local!
i have 4 on the way - I'll first try them on the cps and report back



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I just bought that sensor kit(3 of them had oil) and pigtails for magnets.
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fireball27
I just bought that sensor kit(3 of them had oil) and pigtails for magnets.
Do the pigtails work for the magnets?
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo20032004
Do the pigtails work for the magnets?
I don’t have them on hand, 8 days from today. But based on their site and comments on YouTube, yes they work for magnets and sensors.
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Old Feb 2, 2023 | 01:27 PM
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Any updates on the pigtails? I'm mostly wondering if they work on the cam sensors...pretty sure already that they work on the pucks...
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Old Feb 2, 2023 | 01:30 PM
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Any updates on the pigtails? I'm mostly wondering if they work on the cam sensors...pretty sure already that they work on the pucks...
they do not. See my post in another thread; the plug shape for the magnets is different than the cps

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...rs-leak-9.html
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Old Feb 2, 2023 | 07:07 PM
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Thanks for the link, I hadn't been following that thread...too bad, it sounded like a cheap way protect the harness....
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Are there any initial steps required BEFORE camshaft position sensors harness is disconnected? Like "putting" car's electronics to "sleep" via locking the car (with hood already raised) then observe some wait time period or disconnecting battery's negative cable? Or is it just as simple as an oil change with just the engine off and nothing else is required? TIA
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Are there any initial steps required BEFORE camshaft position sensors harness is disconnected? Like "putting" car's electronics to "sleep" via locking the car (with hood already raised) then observe some wait time period or disconnecting battery's negative cable? Or is it just as simple as an oil change with just the engine off and nothing else is required? TIA
Nope, nothing special as long as the engine is off
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Getting ready to check and replace any sensors and solenoids that need replacing. Cam sensors at FCP Euro ( genuine - $51 ) vs Bosch (OEM - $24) so is it worth paying for life time replacement for twice the amount?

Is Bosch brand OK if I do decide to go that way where I only put 3-4K miles/year?

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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 07:41 PM
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I changed out my 4 cam sensors and 4 pucks after finding oil in 2 cam sensor connectors, after a few thousand miles I inspected and found oil again in the 2 cam sensor connectors that had been leaking previously. I used dealer parts and cleaned thoroughly at the time. I am now wondering if my new sensors are leaking or is the oil that had wicked up the harness previously flowing back down now that the source of new oil has been stopped...I am wondering if any other members have experienced the same thing?
one possible solution, Attaching these harnesses after cleaning sensors or replacing, A good video on youtube,

How to prevent damage to your ECU | Mercedes oil leak
2011-20 Mercedes Benz 4.7L Camshaft Position Sensor 3 Pin Harness Extension M278

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I had this on mine for over 18 months and it's working perfectly. Redneck, but I doubt there's a better fix out there.
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Unfortunately found oil in the connector on my15 E63 . This is the cam magnet sensor behind the oil filter housing of course , read through quite a bit . Sorry if I missed anything , was the verdict it can be done filing a little off the back of the filter housing ? Also will order that long 8mm wrench ..

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