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Old Apr 5, 2023 | 11:49 AM
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Hey Fellas,

I'm looking at getting a TCU tune for my RWD CLS63 to help get my ugly 60fts down. In a perfect world I'd get a 5Soko tune, however being in Canada I'm limited to remote tunes. I've searched a ton, spoke with many people but would love to hear more input.

A few options are:

- ECC (Eurochaged Canada) $1500usd + $350 usd for the cable
- Eurocharged - Same as above
- PTG - $1500usd (Cable Included)
- Morendi - $800usd + $50usd for OBD2 openport

Both Eurocharged seem to be highly recommended, but at double the price of Morendi and about $400usd more than PTG.

I'm not cheap, iIm not shopping for a the "cheapest" but at nearly double the price are the Eurocharged that much better? Any input, personal feed back and opinions are welcome.

My best time currently on a radial is 11.2 @ 130 with a 1.89 60ft. 93 tune with a splash of E, downpipes, exhaust, BB intakes.

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Old Apr 5, 2023 | 12:28 PM
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I have the ECC and am very happy that I can brake boost now and don't need to perfectly time when letting off the brake as rev's climb. As you know, if not timed perfectly the car leaves then just falls on it's face and takes a second to decide to GO, then finally goes. Now when I let off the brake it never falls on it's face it just goes like stink even if I hold for long, short, whatever, I can just sit there on brake until I want to let got. I haven't been able to compare 60ft's yet as it was winter here when I had it done so this is all subjective. But for me purely on how much easier it is to launch now, even if I don't better my 60ft times it's still worth it vs. having to time the perfect launch.

I'll have more results in a few weeks at the track
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Old Apr 5, 2023 | 01:02 PM
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The falling on its face is the killer!

Appreciate the feed back and look forward to hearing your progress!
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Old Apr 5, 2023 | 01:56 PM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
Slav at ecc is amazing - the e tune and tcu tune or a 91/3 tune and tcu tune and you'll be there

you'll always be somewhat limited due to rwd for your 60ft but now you can get stickier wider rear tires and launch harder with a tcu tune ... just don't shock the drivetrain with hundreds of launches
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Old Apr 5, 2023 | 02:06 PM
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Yeah, I have a decent tune.. E tune is next, I just want to see what I can do with a TCU tune first. I figure my car is making decent power, I've trapped as high as 131.5mph. I also run 305/30/20 R888 on the street and 275/35/18 Hoosier DR2's at the track.

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Old Apr 6, 2023 | 08:55 AM
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I'd be happy to leave my ECU stock and just get a proper TCU tune. The stock program in anything other than full manual mode is horrible. Coming from Porsche PDK into my E63 was numerous steps backwards.
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Old Apr 6, 2023 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Slav at ecc is amazing - the e tune and tcu tune or a 91/3 tune and tcu tune and you'll be there

you'll always be somewhat limited due to rwd for your 60ft but now you can get stickier wider rear tires and launch harder with a tcu tune ... just don't shock the drivetrain with hundreds of launches
ECC can't tune remotely from what I've read and they have very few US locations so not exactly easy or convenient to get their software.
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Old Apr 6, 2023 | 09:12 AM
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ECU dyno tune; EDOK TCU tune; BB intakes; sprintbooster
Originally Posted by Cammer88
Hey Fellas,

I'm looking at getting a TCU tune for my RWD CLS63 to help get my ugly 60fts down. In a perfect world I'd get a 5Soko tune, however being in Canada I'm limited to remote tunes. I've searched a ton, spoke with many people but would love to hear more input.

A few options are:

- ECC (Eurochaged Canada) $1500usd + $350 usd for the cable
- Eurocharged - Same as above
- PTG - $1500usd (Cable Included)
- Morendi - $800usd + $50usd for OBD2 openport

Both Eurocharged seem to be highly recommended, but at double the price of Morendi and about $400usd more than PTG.

I'm not cheap, iIm not shopping for a the "cheapest" but at nearly double the price are the Eurocharged that much better? Any input, personal feed back and opinions are welcome.

My best time currently on a radial is 11.2 @ 130 with a 1.89 60ft. 93 tune with a splash of E, downpipes, exhaust, BB intakes.

TIA!
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ECC can't tune remotely from what I've read and they have very few US locations so not exactly easy or convenient to get their software.
A Canadian needs a US location?

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Old Apr 6, 2023 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NSnyder996
I'd be happy to leave my ECU stock and just get a proper TCU tune. The stock program in anything other than full manual mode is horrible. Coming from Porsche PDK into my E63 was numerous steps backwards.
I did this path. Noticeable yes, game changing not so much. Once you get a ecu tune you realize how slow the trans shifts because the engine pushes so much trq out that the transmission is like "hold up bro, not so fast" haha
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I can confirm I have an ECC dongle, software, and programmed my own TCU Stage1 from them remotely/myself. It's super easy.
EDOK is the one that 5soko does that can't be done remotely. The one everyone wants. LOL. I gave up and got the ECC, which, IMHO after reading 1/4 mile and 1 mile records set with ECC tunes, I feel I'm in good hands and still have one of the best TCU tunes out there with ECC.

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Old Apr 6, 2023 | 12:35 PM
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Edok remains "the" tcu tune to get apparently - that's what I have as well, I was a beta tester for it lol

at the end of the day if your launches and 60ft and 1/4 are copacetic then you have the right tcu tune
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Old Apr 6, 2023 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
I can confirm I have an ECC dongle, software, and programmed my own TCU Stage1 from them remotely/myself. It's super easy.
EDOK is the one that 5soko does that can't be done remotely. The one everyone wants. LOL. I gave up and got the ECC, which, IMHO after reading 1/4 mile and 1 mile records set with ECC tunes, I feel I'm in good hands and still have one of the best TCU tunes out there with ECC.
Any idea if they can send the dongle to a customer to have them DIY the install and then send the dongle back? That would be killer and allow more customers IMO.
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Old Apr 6, 2023 | 12:40 PM
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They sell the dongle for $350usd I believe.
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They sell the dongle for $350usd I believe.
https://www.ecctuned.com/product/ecc...r-logging-tool
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Much appreciated! Guess what I read was old news. Glad this is available.
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Has anyone done a comparison of the EDOK vs the ECC tune?

Would be very interested to see differences and/or opinions on them.

There's a possibility of the EDOK TCU flashing event in my area and am wondering which way to go
I'm kind of leaning towards the ECC tune just for the ability to have a dongle to flash/revert if ever needed.

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Old Apr 15, 2023 | 08:28 AM
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I've only had my car for a few weeks and I'm already annoyed with the significant boost reduction in lower gears. Coming from an E55 that gives it everything, it's a little weak sauce.
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Originally Posted by expiredtags
Has anyone done a comparison of the EDOK vs the ECC tune?

Would be very interested to see differences and/or opinions on them.

There's a possibility of the EDOK TCU flashing event in my area and am wondering which way to go
I'm kind of leaning towards the ECC tune just for the ability to have a dongle to flash/revert if ever needed.
If I had choice I’d have done EDOK. Didn’t want to drive to NYC for it. Get the EDOK if it’s an option for you!

Funny story I bought my ECC TCU from Black Boost and thought it was the EDOK one and was all excited but it was a miscommunication. I decided to keep it and am happy but know in my heart it’s not EDOK lol.

Why would you want to revert? TCU tune makes it so great.
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Originally Posted by Cammer88
Yeah, I have a decent tune.. E tune is next, I just want to see what I can do with a TCU tune first. I figure my car is making decent power, I've trapped as high as 131.5mph. I also run 305/30/20 R888 on the street and 275/35/18 Hoosier DR2's at the track.
Tell me about this splash of E. How much and just run the 93 tune?
What do you mph on pure 93?
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Old Apr 17, 2023 | 03:54 PM
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Holy crap. +$400 for a Tactrix OpenPort 2.0 cable?
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Holy crap. +$400 for a Tactrix OpenPort 2.0 cable?
I saw this ... will this work the same? $20.00

https://wap.aliexpress.com/item/2251...apt=4itemAdapt
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Old Apr 17, 2023 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
I saw this ... will this work the same? $20.00

https://wap.aliexpress.com/item/2251...apt=4itemAdapt
It might, but I'm not too savvy on trying to flash an ECU with a non-reputable part. IMO the risk of bricking would be too great for me to not get something proven. That said, what's linked on ECC's site appears to just be a private labeled Tactrix OpenPort 2.0 cable, which are used by tuners everywhere and available for $170 direct from Tactrix themselves.
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The MB 7g tcu is a sophisticated control module that is hard to find a tool that flash it, there is only one or 2 tools that cost more then 6k to flash it and on bench, so to make a software with an obd cable to flash it directly by obd cost alot, because of that the price that you see is more for software and portal access then for a cable, also please guys don't use China clone cables that can brick your control modules fastly specially if you have 2015 and up cars that use fbs4 keys/immo.
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and because of that there is only two or three tuners that have access to this software that cost thousands and others don't have that you must send your tcu or by local area to flash it on bench.
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Originally Posted by I.T. Guy
Tell me about this splash of E. How much and just run the 93 tune?
What do you mph on pure 93?
I typically run E20 in my car on a "93" tune. As you're aware our Canadian fuel is garbage. I've logged with my 93 tune blended to E20 and everything is completely safe, with almost no timing pull. Running the E20 blend yields me 2-3MPH in the 1/4
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