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Old Feb 17, 2026 | 03:30 PM
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Hello all, in need of some help. I'm curious what's the difference is between the 722.931 and 722.930 transmissions? My 2012 E63 has a 722.931 transmission in it and I have an opportunity to buy a built 722.930 transmission. Would I be able to swap it in as long as I swap over the valve body and conductor plate or is there more to it? The donar car is a 2017 C63. I know the VGS are different, mine being a VGS 3 and donar being a VGS 4 will that be a physical issue or just security reasoning? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by MenacE63
Hello all, in need of some help. I'm curious what's the difference is between the 722.931 and 722.930 transmissions? My 2012 E63 has a 722.931 transmission in it and I have an opportunity to buy a built 722.930 transmission. Would I be able to swap it in as long as I swap over the valve body and conductor plate or is there more to it? The donar car is a 2017 C63. I know the VGS are different, mine being a VGS 3 and donar being a VGS 4 will that be a physical issue or just security reasoning? Thanks!
You want to replace a tranny with VGS3 by a rebuilt with VGS4.

The likelyness this is going to plug and play are slim.

Moving your VGS3 over to new box is more likely if it's a bolt on match. Rebuilding your original is the sure way to no headaches.
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Old Feb 17, 2026 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
You want to replace a tranny with VGS3 by a rebuilt with VGS4.

The likelyness this is going to plug and play are slim.

Moving your VGS3 over to new box is more likely if it's a bolt on match. Rebuilding your original is the sure way to no headaches.
Yes I would swap over my original valve body and conductor plate (VGS 3) to the rebuilt transmission. They seem to be physically identical aside from the VGS. My question is are the internals of the transmission the same? I know electricals are different and married to the cars but the physical transmission internals is there any difference between the 722.931 and 722.930? Bell housing looks the same, starter placement also. They are both MCT transmissions

I guess what I'm asking is will I have drivability issues if I swapped in the 722.930 and transfer over all the electricals from the 722.931 transmission?
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Old Feb 19, 2026 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MenacE63
Hello all, in need of some help. I'm curious what's the difference is between the 722.931 and 722.930 transmissions? My 2012 E63 has a 722.931 transmission in it and I have an opportunity to buy a built 722.930 transmission. Would I be able to swap it in as long as I swap over the valve body and conductor plate or is there more to it? The donar car is a 2017 C63. I know the VGS are different, mine being a VGS 3 and donar being a VGS 4 will that be a physical issue or just security reasoning? Thanks!
By the way, what year is your car?
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By the way, what year is your car?
2012, and Ive tried using AI I always get a different answer😂 I even went as far as calling 2 transmission builders and they both said the same thing "it might work but we've never done it so it's at your discretion"
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Go to www.lastvin.com and enter your VIN. Look to see if you have code A89 REDUCED-FRICTION. If you do, then you know the AI is lying to you. You want to make sure you use the blue tranny fluid (236.15).
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Originally Posted by GTIBlack
Go to www.lastvin.com and enter your VIN. Look to see if you have code A89 REDUCED-FRICTION. If you do, then you know the AI is lying to you. You want to make sure you use the blue tranny fluid (236.15).
I have the 722.931 MCT transmission that uses blue fluid. I know that blue fluid can to in red transmission but red can't go in blue transmission. That is why I'm asking what's the actual difference in the physical transmission. Valve body and conductor plate I know will have to be swapped but if the internals are the same in the 722.931 and 722.930 then in theory it should be a simple-ish swap
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Ha! I ran the query again and got this. I’ll post my like and maybe you can get clarification.


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Ha! I ran the query again and got this. I’ll post my like and maybe you can get clarification.

Ai is saying older but the transmission that is the 722.930 is out of a 2017 C63S which makes no sense to me.
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Have you tried your local Mercedes dealership and asked if you can install the 733.930? I think I would keep everything together and just have the dealer recode the car. BenzNinja says you would need to have the TCU “virginized” first (on a bench) and then programmed for your car.
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Originally Posted by GTIBlack
Have you tried your local Mercedes dealership and asked if you can install the 733.930? I think I would keep everything together and just have the dealer recode the car. BenzNinja says you would need to have the TCU “virginized” first (on a bench) and then programmed for your car.
All I would have to do for that is transfer over the valve body and conductor plate from the OE transmission to the built on, no need to revirginize it
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Ai is saying older but the transmission that is the 722.930 is out of a 2017 C63S which makes no sense to me.
Yeah, AI ain’t your friend.
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Yeah, AI ain’t your friend.
Right and I called MBUSA and a local dealership, they were no help at all. I guess I'm at a point of just trying my luck with it
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Well, you have options. Try it one way first. If that doesn't work, try it the other way.

I had a 2004 SL500 with one of the first 7G trannies. At one time, I had to replace the conductor plate. Because it is a theft part, you can only get it from the dealer and they must install and configure it.

You should find a good independent shop that specializes in Mercedes. Most dealers are just retailers and not enthusiasts.
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