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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 12:17 AM
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Front axle vectoring, all the cool kids are doing it ... lol

Just finished reading the MT article on the new NSX, where they are doing the same, with electric motors, and reaping some major handling benefits with it. Basically, pulls front into the apex as opposed to rear system that angels the tail end.
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 08:24 AM
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Here is the first article that I have seen with "expected" price:
http://www.scienceworldreport.com/ar...lease-date.htm

New 2017 Mercedes E63 AMG: Release Date And Price
"The new 2017 Mercedes E63 AMG units are expected to hit the American showrooms in summer 2017. Although no official announcement has yet been made, the E63 S model will be arriving around three months later.
The new 2017 Mercedes E63 AMG is expected to cost around £75k and the E63S over £83k. Stay Tuned to SWR for more latest news and updates on the new 2017 Mercedes E63 AMG."

(We know that the U.K. price is not a direct British pound to U.S. dollar conversion, but for the sake of getting a ballpark price: £75k = $91k, £83k = $101k).
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Vipershade
Yeah, I think that is the million dollar question, that and how good is the AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT nine-speed sports transmission?
and if it does not switch to pure RWD after launching, the question is what will it keep the torque split at between front and rear?

if you can only make it pure RWD when running in
manual mode, that's going to leave a big margin of error during the roll races. Too bad they didn't allow for that with quick auto shifting in S+
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike450
Front axle vectoring, all the cool kids are doing it ... lol

Just finished reading the MT article on the new NSX, where they are doing the same, with electric motors, and reaping some major handling benefits with it. Basically, pulls front into the apex as opposed to rear system that angels the tail end.
sounds cool, but also afraid of how much more can break now. Are those electric motors simple?

Is the new car also still using air suspension for the rear?
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Vipershade
Here is the first article that I have seen with "expected" price:


(We know that the U.K. price is not a direct British pound to U.S. dollar conversion, but for the sake of getting a ballpark price: £75k = $91k, £83k = $101k).
What was the price of the 2016 E63S AMG in the UK? I think the 2016 price in the US was about $100K.
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 12:16 PM
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yes, can't wait to test drive one and if they did
I'm also wondering about what exactly causes the lag.

I used to have a 2013 c63 amg with same MCT transmission as e63s and it never lagged from a stop. It always went right away as soon as throttle was touched.

So I'm guessing it must be the TCU torque limit which causes the lag, and not hardware related to the wet clutch initial engagement.
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Amg63-
I'm also wondering about what exactly causes the lag.

I used to have a 2013 c63 amg with same MCT transmission as e63s and it never lagged from a stop. It always went right away as soon as throttle was touched.

So I'm guessing it must be the TCU torque limit which causes the lag, and not hardware related to the wet clutch initial engagement.
Correct. It is the TCU limiting torque output which causes the lag. The 5.5TT when tuned has a ton more torque than the 6.3 N/A.
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 02:14 PM
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These tail lights look so bad to me they are a complete show stopper in my book. Really cheap looking. WTH were they thinking? Wow.
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Old Oct 28, 2016 | 10:22 PM
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These tail lights look so bad to me they are a complete show stopper in my book. Really cheap looking. WTH were they thinking? Wow.
agreed --- seeing lots of e300's on the road and The rear end is sad
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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 08:16 PM
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These tail lights look so bad to me they are a complete show stopper in my book. Really cheap looking. WTH were they thinking? Wow.
yup same reason why I also like the older w204 c63 design much better than the newer w205.

All going downhill at this point.

Plus engine size getting smaller, sound also getting worse.

Hate it.
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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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The overall look of the rear is very puny looking. Makes the tires look tiny, looks Hyundai or Toyota like (even Lexus looks better)
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 01:34 AM
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I agree, the backs looking a bit soft.
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Old Nov 16, 2016 | 06:56 PM
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Some Edition 1 pics from L.A.:







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Old Nov 16, 2016 | 07:16 PM
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Looking good - love the interior!
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Old Nov 17, 2016 | 10:36 AM
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I like that they went thinner in the seatback (very Porsche like), could be a start to a much more improved car.
The dynamics for the current MB lineup is been very very confusing IMO
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 09:04 AM
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfessorX
This car it HOT!!!
Roger that...

So these seats are actually vented... I think that is the first time I seen the performance seats both heated and vented (not to mention the inclusion of the AFFALTERBACH AMG emblem):
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 06:05 PM
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Anyone know if this bad boy will have cylinder fuel managemen like the current slk55?

this is my DD and I'm often on the highway for 80% of my drive

thx
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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Anyone know if this bad boy will have cylinder fuel managemen like the current slk55?

this is my DD and I'm often on the highway for 80% of my drive

thx
They recon you can drop it from 8 cylinders to 4 cylinders that will definitely give you some fuel saving...
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Anyone know if this bad boy will have cylinder fuel managemen like the current slk55?

this is my DD and I'm often on the highway for 80% of my drive

thx
They recon you can drop it from 8 cylinders to 4 cylinders that will definitely give you some fuel saving...
Yeah, it looks like it is the exact same system:

"For maximum efficiency, Mercedes-AMG has equipped the V8 engine with AMG Cylinder Management cylinder deactivation system. This technology first debuted on the SLK55 and helped to achieve impressively low consumption and emission values and is now being used with a turbocharged engine from the high performance sports car brand for the first time. In the partial load range cylinders two, three, five and eight are deactivated, which crucially lowers the fuel consumption."
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Yeah, it looks like it is the exact same system:

"For maximum efficiency, Mercedes-AMG has equipped the V8 engine with AMG Cylinder Management cylinder deactivation system. This technology first debuted on the SLK55 and helped to achieve impressively low consumption and emission values and is now being used with a turbocharged engine from the high performance sports car brand for the first time. In the partial load range cylinders two, three, five and eight are deactivated, which crucially lowers the fuel consumption."
sweet!! I thought it was silly the 5.5TT didn't have this feature
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Old Nov 21, 2016 | 11:25 PM
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sweet!! I thought it was silly the 5.5TT didn't have this feature
I know right... this is a great feature for day to day driving.
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Old Nov 22, 2016 | 11:33 AM
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LOL ^^^

You guys are lucky to own the "the boy engines" but....

want lowly non AMG performance "sometimes":lol

Seriously tho.Wouldn't cylinder deactivation add to the difficultly tuning?
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