Notices
W213 AMG Discuss the W213 AMG - 2017/2018
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

2017 E63s vs 2017 Panamera Turbo S

 
Old 11-16-2016, 05:59 PM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
kponti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,927
Received 95 Likes on 85 Posts
E55
2017 E63s vs 2017 Panamera Turbo S

If you have driven the 2010-2016 Panamera you will probably realize these four things

-E63 is considerably faster (but feels a lot slower than the Panamera)
-Build quality of the Porsche is much better
-The handling and agility of the heavier Porsche makes the MB feel like it's on solid axles
-The Porsche is a whole whole lot uglier and really hard to ignore
Also to add I know the Panamera is also more expensive.

That being said, you have a $220k budget for a daily driver.....which would you pick???

Personally, I would take the Porsche if it drives like the older ones. Jeez I was seriously considering trading my Renntech tuned E63 for a 2014 Panamera turbo and felt like I would not miss the power one bit. I do not know any AWD I actually enjoyed driving like I did the Panamera. The 2014 Es felt pudgy and forced through turns and I could never really get used to it on multiple test drives. Never considered the older Porsche cos lets face it, only a mother could love the backend. Now with the new E63 rear, I feel like it's gunning for the Porsche (no it's not as bad) all the while not sure if its dynamics can match.

I cannot wait to see how a heads up with the new 4matic plus fairs against competitors and the Panamera.
What do you guys think?
kponti is offline  
Old 11-16-2016, 06:53 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Sanch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,114
Received 240 Likes on 210 Posts
AMG C63s
I think I'd rather go the new E63s over the Porsche... Personal choice I guess.

If I was to get a Porsche daily it would have to be a 911 Turbo S.
Sanch is offline  
Old 11-17-2016, 01:15 AM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
PeterUbers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,740
Likes: 0
Received 500 Likes on 420 Posts
2014 E63S, 2014 Acura MDX, 2008 Infiniti G35x
The 2016+ pan is NOT ugly anymore

PeterUbers is offline  
Old 11-18-2016, 06:03 PM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,437
Received 42 Likes on 39 Posts
FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
The new one definitely looks much better, especially the rear end.
otakki is offline  
Old 11-19-2016, 11:36 AM
  #5  
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Oakton, VA
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2013 E63 Performance Package
Originally Posted by PeterUbers View Post
The 2016+ pan is NOT ugly anymore
I have to agree with you Peter. I am going to take a hard look at the Panamera when it is time for my 2013 E63s to go. I may actually keep it and just build a car collection. I am trying to get my wife to allow me to buy a house with enough room for a 7 car garage.

My next new vehicle - 2017 Ford Raptor....
milepostnate is offline  
Old 11-19-2016, 11:45 AM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
PeterUbers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,740
Likes: 0
Received 500 Likes on 420 Posts
2014 E63S, 2014 Acura MDX, 2008 Infiniti G35x
Originally Posted by milepostnate View Post
I have to agree with you Peter. I am going to take a hard look at the Panamera when it is time for my 2013 E63s to go. I may actually keep it and just build a car collection. I am trying to get my wife to allow me to buy a house with enough room for a 7 car garage.

My next new vehicle - 2017 Ford Raptor....
that would be awesome man to keep both... hard to get rid of one of the best performance sedans of all time ...e63

that raptor is awesome ... keep working the wife ... she will come around
PeterUbers is offline  
Old 11-20-2016, 10:42 PM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
absent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Winnetka, il usa
Posts: 2,406
Received 84 Likes on 70 Posts
19 S63, Lusso (wife), GLA250, Wrangler(kids)
2017 Panamera is finally good looking, hunchback gone.
New E63 is a very tempting proposition even though they moved the gear selector to steering column like in the S-Class, a very geriatric solution, IMO.
Now, the new Turbo S is supposed to be a hybrid, V8 with 550HP and additional 2 electric engines with a combined 160HP.
A total of 710HP and instant torque from electric power will do wonders for the performance of that car.
Even regular Turbo with "piddly" 550HP is tempting with it's 7:38s Ring time making it the fastest sedan on record there.
Choices, choices, what are we supposed to do?
What a problem to have......
absent is offline  
Old 11-21-2016, 01:04 AM
  #8  
Super Member
 
stealth.pilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 816
Received 112 Likes on 81 Posts
2018 Mercedes-AMG E63S
I think the Panamera Turbo is the better car, and the Turbo S will be even more.spectacular.

However they are a lot more expensive. The 2017 Panamera Turbo well equipped is around $167k. That's probably about 50k more than a comparably equipped E63. E63 has typically been priced to compete with the Panamera 4S.
stealth.pilot is offline  
Old 12-06-2016, 10:33 AM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
gaspam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: miami / delray beach
Posts: 2,841
Received 184 Likes on 145 Posts
2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
220K... i would get the new e63s and use the leftover 100-120K to buy the new audi RS3, a jeep wrangler with tow hitch and jet skis
gaspam is offline  
Old 12-06-2016, 03:14 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
YellowJacket's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 472
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
2014 E63
That is much improved, I must say.


YellowJacket is offline  
Old 12-06-2016, 03:26 PM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,289
Received 30 Likes on 27 Posts
2015 CLS63S AMG
Yuck that shape is still ugly to me. Looks like a giant jelly bean
Amg63- is offline  
Old 12-06-2016, 05:08 PM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
PeterUbers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,740
Likes: 0
Received 500 Likes on 420 Posts
2014 E63S, 2014 Acura MDX, 2008 Infiniti G35x
Originally Posted by gaspam View Post
220K... i would get the new e63s and use the leftover 100-120K to buy the new audi RS3, a jeep wrangler with tow hitch and jet skis
+1
PeterUbers is offline  
Old 12-06-2016, 05:10 PM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
PeterUbers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,740
Likes: 0
Received 500 Likes on 420 Posts
2014 E63S, 2014 Acura MDX, 2008 Infiniti G35x
Originally Posted by YellowJacket View Post
That is much improved, I must say.


its closer to Aston Martin tesla shape now... much improved
PeterUbers is offline  
Old 12-06-2016, 05:10 PM
  #14  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
PeterUbers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,740
Likes: 0
Received 500 Likes on 420 Posts
2014 E63S, 2014 Acura MDX, 2008 Infiniti G35x
Originally Posted by Amg63- View Post
Yuck that shape is still ugly to me. Looks like a giant jelly bean
lol
PeterUbers is offline  
Old 12-06-2016, 07:59 PM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Sanch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,114
Received 240 Likes on 210 Posts
AMG C63s
Looks the same to me lol... 220k can be spent more wisely IMO.
Sanch is offline  
Old 12-06-2016, 08:02 PM
  #16  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
PeterUbers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,740
Likes: 0
Received 500 Likes on 420 Posts
2014 E63S, 2014 Acura MDX, 2008 Infiniti G35x
Originally Posted by Sanch View Post
Looks the same to me lol... 220k can be spent more wisely IMO.
$220k makes the e63S seem like a bargain hunter's ford festiva and the hellcat a rickshaw lol
PeterUbers is offline  
Old 12-30-2016, 05:17 PM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jan AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Autobahn
Posts: 1,316
Received 74 Likes on 63 Posts
S63, CLS63S, 500SE
Wagon

The choice gets much easier if you need a big boot and seat 5. To me the E63S Wagon is the clear winner here plus the looks are world class. On top of that, who likes Panamera's cockpit button explosion?
Jan AMG is offline  
Old 12-30-2016, 07:32 PM
  #18  
Super Member
 
stealth.pilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 816
Received 112 Likes on 81 Posts
2018 Mercedes-AMG E63S
Originally Posted by Armadillo888
The choice gets much easier if you need a big boot and seat 5. To me the E63S Wagon is the clear winner here plus the looks are world class. On top of that, who likes Panamera's cockpit button explosion?
Panamera with bench seat and wagon style is coming! I discussed this with Porsche and they confirmed these features will be along this generation!
stealth.pilot is offline  
Old 12-31-2016, 09:26 AM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
absent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Winnetka, il usa
Posts: 2,406
Received 84 Likes on 70 Posts
19 S63, Lusso (wife), GLA250, Wrangler(kids)
New Turbo S Hybrid is confirmed with 688HP.
A more luxurious and definitely quicker car then E63S (a bit academic at that level of performance anyway).
...but at easy twice the price you have to really **** the $$$ to make that decision as the Benz increasingly looks like a steal of the century (vs Porsche) at 50% price and 99% performance.
absent is offline  
Old 12-31-2016, 07:32 PM
  #20  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,289
Received 30 Likes on 27 Posts
2015 CLS63S AMG
688hp is nice, will surely be a rocket. How much torque will the porsche have?

i still think for looks w212/13 are nicer than it for a lot less $ and similar performance for w213.
Amg63- is offline  
Old 01-02-2017, 08:49 PM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
kponti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,927
Received 95 Likes on 85 Posts
E55
Originally Posted by gaspam View Post
220K... i would get the new e63s and use the leftover 100-120K to buy the new audi RS3, a jeep wrangler with tow hitch and jet skis
So to make it more interesting, you get to buy only one car and your kids are all 5'8" and 5'11 early teenagers (there are 2 of them and you do drive around with them often)
kponti is offline  
Old 01-02-2017, 09:13 PM
  #22  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
gaspam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: miami / delray beach
Posts: 2,841
Received 184 Likes on 145 Posts
2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
Originally Posted by kponti View Post
So to make it more interesting, you get to buy only one car and your kids are all 5'8" and 5'11 early teenagers (there are 2 of them and you do drive around with them often)
same answers as before as I'm 6'3 and I fit in the back of my e63 fine...so,i would get the new e63s and use the leftover 100-120K to buy the new audi RS3, a jeep wrangler with tow hitch and jet skis or if I had kids , keep the leftover money saved from the e63 vs Porsche and put it in college annuity for both of them
gaspam is offline  
Old 01-02-2017, 09:16 PM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jan AMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Autobahn
Posts: 1,316
Received 74 Likes on 63 Posts
S63, CLS63S, 500SE
Smart move
Jan AMG is offline  
Old 01-05-2017, 02:32 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
24Hours's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NYC area
Posts: 371
Received 51 Likes on 42 Posts
2019 E63S wagon; 2016 Landrover Landmark
Originally Posted by stealth.pilot View Post
Panamera with bench seat and wagon style is coming! I discussed this with Porsche and they confirmed these features will be along this generation!
E63 S Wagon all day long, regardless of price. That Panamera wagon has a fugly rear and less room... really just a waste with the steeply sloped tail.
24Hours is offline  
Old 01-08-2017, 09:00 PM
  #25  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
BACnMercedes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 1,149
Received 64 Likes on 56 Posts
19 E63s and 16 GLE400
Originally Posted by YellowJacket View Post
That is much improved, I must say.


Wow! It's totally different. The rear window does not fade up any more on the new one. Way to go Porsche, drastic change. Not!
Oh, and it looks like they moved gas filler lid. Maybe it's behind the license plate like they used to do on some cars so you can stare at that ugly a$$ everytime you fill up.
BACnMercedes is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: 2017 E63s vs 2017 Panamera Turbo S


Contact Us - About Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: