Hot new Mercedes-AMG E63 S tested. And drifted.
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does this add weight or extra rolling radius which is bad for acceleration?
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not to 60 mph, same number of shifts.. probably same number of shifts in the 1/4 as well... plus more power is getting to the wheels in 9g tranny if the power transfer efficiency diff truly is 92% vs 85%
some interesting info on the 9g tronic http://500sec.com/9g-tronic/
http://documents.epfl.ch/users/f/fr/...s/A1_Paper.pdf
some interesting info on the 9g tronic http://500sec.com/9g-tronic/
http://documents.epfl.ch/users/f/fr/...s/A1_Paper.pdf
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lol so the 9g tronic is only 2% more efficient at 92% vs 90%?
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With a second person and 40kg of equipment, he used a Realogic timer and got...
* 0-60 in 3.2sec
* Standing 1/4mi in 11.42sec @ 124.3mph
So w/o the second person and crap in the back seat, those figures will be better. I can't wait for the wagon... already planning Euro delivery road trip with the kids.
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Nothing other than cosmetic reason for the ever increasing wheel size. IMO it's beyond the point of diminishing return once you get larger than 18", or maybe even smaller.
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Among the early reviews I've read, the TopGear UK review did the best effort in capturing some acceleration performance of the W213:
With a second person and 40kg of equipment, he used a Realogic timer and got...
* 0-60 in 3.2sec
* Standing 1/4mi in 11.42sec @ 124.3mph
So w/o the second person and crap in the back seat, those figures will be better. I can't wait for the wagon... already planning Euro delivery road trip with the kids.
With a second person and 40kg of equipment, he used a Realogic timer and got...
* 0-60 in 3.2sec
* Standing 1/4mi in 11.42sec @ 124.3mph
So w/o the second person and crap in the back seat, those figures will be better. I can't wait for the wagon... already planning Euro delivery road trip with the kids.
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id say pretty close but tuned is a little stronger with many 4matics and RWD doing 126-128mph. They both seem to be in same territory in trap speeds.
looks like it will take a tuned w212 to hang with a stock w213.
A tuned w213 will likely walk away rather easily.
looks like it will take a tuned w212 to hang with a stock w213.
A tuned w213 will likely walk away rather easily.
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even if its 2% that is still about another 10-15whp not being lost in the tranny vs our w212
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not with the extra ~200 lbs of second person/ 88lbs of testing equipment as mentioned above.... add almost 300 lbs to w212 drag race and it will slow it down a bit ... rule of thumb is a 1/10th in 1/4 for every 100 lbs
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Among the early reviews I've read, the TopGear UK review did the best effort in capturing some acceleration performance of the W213:
With a second person and 40kg of equipment, he used a Realogic timer and got...
* 0-60 in 3.2sec
* Standing 1/4mi in 11.42sec @ 124.3mph
So w/o the second person and crap in the back seat, those figures will be better. I can't wait for the wagon... already planning Euro delivery road trip with the kids.
With a second person and 40kg of equipment, he used a Realogic timer and got...
* 0-60 in 3.2sec
* Standing 1/4mi in 11.42sec @ 124.3mph
So w/o the second person and crap in the back seat, those figures will be better. I can't wait for the wagon... already planning Euro delivery road trip with the kids.
sounds like a great plan ... this will be the fastest stock wagon on the planet until the new cls63 shooting brake comes out
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I'm guessing this 4.0 is 2 mated 2.0 inline 4s from the CLA AMG that made 355hp out of a 2.0 turbo 4 cyclinder.
This engine has a little more in it.I would say around 710hp with a tune is doable.dont forget the AMG GT black series is a go and will use this same engine.
This engine has a little more in it.I would say around 710hp with a tune is doable.dont forget the AMG GT black series is a go and will use this same engine.
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I'm guessing this 4.0 is 2 mated 2.0 inline 4s from the CLA AMG that made 355hp out of a 2.0 turbo 4 cyclinder.
This engine has a little more in it.I would say around 710hp with a tune is doable.dont forget the AMG GT black series is a go and will use this same engine.
This engine has a little more in it.I would say around 710hp with a tune is doable.dont forget the AMG GT black series is a go and will use this same engine.
Actually with catless downpipes it's making about 720-740bhp.
Should be an interesting contest between the old and the new.
I dont think its ever ever been this close before between new and older model generations.
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thats basically the same power as a tuned m157 5.5 in the current w212 e63.
Actually with catless downpipes it's making about 720-740bhp.
Should be an interesting contest between the old and the new.
I dont think its ever ever been this close before between new and older model generations.
Actually with catless downpipes it's making about 720-740bhp.
Should be an interesting contest between the old and the new.
I dont think its ever ever been this close before between new and older model generations.
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the turbos in the new e63 are twin scroll vs our current mono scroll.... twin scroll make roughly 20% more hp, this is the reason M5/M6's are able to put out 770+ whp/ 830+ wtrq on their stock turbos
not to mention they are in the engine valley vs underneath the car with bunch of extra piping
the new 4.0 motor with twin scrolls in the valley will make more power than our single scrolls piped underneath the car tuned vs tuned
not to mention they are in the engine valley vs underneath the car with bunch of extra piping
the new 4.0 motor with twin scrolls in the valley will make more power than our single scrolls piped underneath the car tuned vs tuned
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the turbos in the new e63 are twin scroll vs our current mono scroll.... twin scroll make roughly 20% more hp, this is the reason M5/M6's are able to put out 770+ whp/ 830+ wtrq on their stock turbos
not to mention they are in the engine valley vs underneath the car with bunch of extra piping
the new 4.0 motor with twin scrolls in the valley will make more power than our single scrolls piped underneath the car tuned vs tuned
not to mention they are in the engine valley vs underneath the car with bunch of extra piping
the new 4.0 motor with twin scrolls in the valley will make more power than our single scrolls piped underneath the car tuned vs tuned
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the turbos in the new e63 are twin scroll vs our current mono scroll.... twin scroll make roughly 20% more hp, this is the reason M5/M6's are able to put out 770+ whp/ 830+ wtrq on their stock turbos
not to mention they are in the engine valley vs underneath the car with bunch of extra piping
the new 4.0 motor with twin scrolls in the valley will make more power than our single scrolls piped underneath the car tuned vs tuned
not to mention they are in the engine valley vs underneath the car with bunch of extra piping
the new 4.0 motor with twin scrolls in the valley will make more power than our single scrolls piped underneath the car tuned vs tuned
And an extra 1.5 litre of displacement on the v8 is good for nothing?
if anything i would of thought it should bring it somewhat close when both get tuned.
m5/6 are not just about twin scroll, they are also using 32% larger size turbos.
We still don't know how big the turbos are on w213, but they may be as small as m157 for all we know. Plus another .4 down on displacement as well vs s63tu motor.
The benefit to the smaller turbos for me at least is id rather have the big torque/power kick in earlier in the powerband than up top, so I actually hope they keep it this way for that quicker spool up of the turbos and NA-like throttle response as I experience on the m157.
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