Hot new Mercedes-AMG E63 S tested. And drifted.
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http://www.motortrend.com/cars/merce...-drive-review/
Some info on the new 4matic setup and the weight looks to be heavier than 212
Some info on the new 4matic setup and the weight looks to be heavier than 212
The 1,880*/1,955 kg ** translates to 4145/4310 lbs. 300 lbs less than W212.
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I think under 3secs is a very good possibility. There is no questioning that this car is a weapon. The rear aesthetics is a different story.
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What I love about the w212 is how with just a tune it gains 200wtq. They left so much tuning potential, I figured this was largely due to it having a large displacement 5.5L V8
with the new 4.0 having twin scroll turbos it can probably be tuned for more whp but my guess is torque to the wheels won't be as high.
Man a tune vs tune race between these 212/213 e63s should be an epic battle!
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The key is how quick does the W212 get to 100mph vs the W213. If the W213 can run the 1/8 mile right at 7.0 @ 101 it will run high 10's. My numbers are based on my timing in that W213 launch video a few post back. If it doesn't run 10's with stock tires just add drag radials.
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The key is how quick does the W212 get to 100mph vs the W213. If the W213 can run the 1/8 mile right at 7.0 @ 101 it will run high 10's. My numbers are based on my timing in that W213 launch video a few post back. If it doesn't run 10's with stock tires just add drag radials.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=rqWwH0Ok75Y
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I read an article with instrumented tests a couple of days ago (lost the link will try find it again) it did 0-60mph in 3.2sec and the quarter mile in 11.41 can't remember the terminal speed, think it was 121mph.
Impressive AMG...
Impressive AMG...
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That same tuned w212 is doing 0-60 runs in the high 2's
just saying, but we shall see
also would be strange for the e63S to trump the gts and gtr in straight line performance
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that trap speed is lower than the w212 and same 1/4 mile and 0-60 lol
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Definitely the new one (sorry haven't found the related article yet) he did comment that it's definitely faster/quicker than the old model as he also had comparison data on that one and the test runs in the new car were done with a second passenger on board plus a large load of equipment therefore much heavier compared to him alone in the old car.
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Definitely the new one (sorry haven't found the related article yet) he did comment that it's definitely faster/quicker than the old model as he also had comparison data on that one and the test runs in the new car were done with a second passenger on board plus a large load of equipment therefore much heavier compared to him alone in the old car.
the trap speeds still are not great if it's only 121mph
outgoing e63s got 123.1mph@11.5 from r&t. A bit surprised with his result.
The ET 11.4 is impressive with all the extra weight. So probably around 11.2 vs 11.5-6
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really more interested also in the 60-130
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i don't think it's getting 10s. I was saying without the extra weight it will probably be 11.1-11.2. Still a lot faster than w212 probably due to better traction, more torque and lighter weight. Trap speeds don't look much better so from a roll probably close to us.
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This link gives a little more info on the new 4MATIC+:
http://www.germancarforum.com/thread...3/#post-816786
One big change is going to a wet clutch in the Torque converter, if I read this correctly. The set-up is like the typical 4matic with a forward drive shaft, except a wet clutch with variable clamping, controls the front wheels, vs direct gearing before. One misleading spec is 50:50 torque spread as a normal Max to front. There is no drive shaft torque measurement system to control to a fixed ratio like this. What is more likely is if you are in soft sand, or snow/ice, the center coupling will lock, and with low traction you will have 50:50 torque split.
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http://www.germancarforum.com/thread...3/#post-816786
One big change is going to a wet clutch in the Torque converter, if I read this correctly. The set-up is like the typical 4matic with a forward drive shaft, except a wet clutch with variable clamping, controls the front wheels, vs direct gearing before. One misleading spec is 50:50 torque spread as a normal Max to front. There is no drive shaft torque measurement system to control to a fixed ratio like this. What is more likely is if you are in soft sand, or snow/ice, the center coupling will lock, and with low traction you will have 50:50 torque split.
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2014 E63s amg 4matic, 2009 C63, 2006 E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth
from what i have read, it looks like the 9g tronic shifts faster than the 7g tronic and has less loss of power transferred to input shaft (supposedly 92% transfer vs 85% for 7g tronic)
saw a test from uk site that tested cls 220 bluetec model with the old 7g and one with new 9g and 9g was .2 sec faster 0-60 (equates to about 2.5% better than the 7g 0-60mph)
holding all other things equal, the first 3 gears in the 9g would certain get up an go quicker than the 7g
7G TRONIC
4.377/
2.859/
1.921
9G TRONIC
5.502
/3.3
/2.315
saw a test from uk site that tested cls 220 bluetec model with the old 7g and one with new 9g and 9g was .2 sec faster 0-60 (equates to about 2.5% better than the 7g 0-60mph)
holding all other things equal, the first 3 gears in the 9g would certain get up an go quicker than the 7g
7G TRONIC
4.377/
2.859/
1.921
9G TRONIC
5.502
/3.3
/2.315
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from what i have read, it looks like the 9g tronic shifts faster than the 7g tronic and has less loss of power transferred to input shaft (supposedly 92% transfer vs 85% for 7g tronic)
saw a test from uk site that tested cls 220 bluetec model with the old 7g and one with new 9g and 9g was .2 sec faster 0-60 (equates to about 2.5% better than the 7g 0-60mph)
holding all other things equal, the first 3 gears in the 9g would certain get up an go quicker than the 7g
7G TRONIC
4.377/
2.859/
1.921
9G TRONIC
5.502
/3.3
/2.315
saw a test from uk site that tested cls 220 bluetec model with the old 7g and one with new 9g and 9g was .2 sec faster 0-60 (equates to about 2.5% better than the 7g 0-60mph)
holding all other things equal, the first 3 gears in the 9g would certain get up an go quicker than the 7g
7G TRONIC
4.377/
2.859/
1.921
9G TRONIC
5.502
/3.3
/2.315
Wouldn't having to go through more shifts in a way slow it down a bit?
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not to 60 mph, same number of shifts.. probably same number of shifts in the 1/4 as well... plus more power is getting to the wheels in 9g tranny if the power transfer efficiency diff truly is 92% vs 85%
some interesting info on the 9g tronic http://500sec.com/9g-tronic/
http://documents.epfl.ch/users/f/fr/...s/A1_Paper.pdf
some interesting info on the 9g tronic http://500sec.com/9g-tronic/
http://documents.epfl.ch/users/f/fr/...s/A1_Paper.pdf
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