NickBoz

With my stock E43, I have repeatedly spanked my buddies in their m3/4s, only time I'll have issues is when we are rolling from 60mph and on, the weight is my downfall.

Just finished the OETune on my 43 along with catless DP, picking it up tomorrow and will dyno once power has adjusted.

chiromikey

Sorry, calling bs

No way you're beating a current m3/4 that has a better trans, 30-50 more bhp, and weighs 800lbs less. Sorry, no way.

munis

Oh start believing this buddy. If you think the 43 series is a slouch, you are due for a rude awakening. Light to light, the 43 series spanks the M3/4 and C63 all day long.


Edit: I have tested this first hand. If I wasn't doing some not to subtle driving in the video, I would have uploaded it.

chiromikey

Lmfao! You're higher than a kite! It may not be a "slouch" but it will be lucky to be within a full second of a current M3/4 in the 1/4mile and probably a 1/4 second slower 0-60. Wake up fanboys. The E43 isn't going to be faster than a car with 30 more hp and weighs 800lbs less.

Vic55

Ive owned an F82 ZCP car- so I speak from ownership. The M diff is far from efficient and causes a lot of wheel spin. If you have ever driven an F10 M5 (ive owned 2) one will know that its the king of wheelspin for sedans and the F8X cars are like junior versions. Of course I speak in the real world experiences where dig races happen without planning and the drivers are not pros who got multiple chances to get the times right on a private track for some mag.

On the street I can see an E43 pull the F8X M car from a dig with its AWD and launching for "dummies" mash and go. Of course I speak impromptu runs and not premeditated races. But I do speak from ownership of the F82 and have driven the E43 many times. From a roll its completely different where the DCT, HP, weight all advance the M.

chiromikey

At least you make a point that I can concede could make things closer than they should be but the E43 would still have to launch considerably better than the current awd W212 E63 (which isn't very impressive) to beat an M3 and I doubt that's the case.

chiromikey

Published 2017 times:

M3: 0-60 4s, 1/4mile 12.3

E43: 0-60 4.2, 1/4mile 13.1

So yes, it's possible for an inexperienced M driver or less than ideal traction to to allow the E43 an opportunity for the first few seconds of a dig race but other than that the E43 beating an M3 really isn't happening.

munis

Preach. I ran with an M4 for 4 consecutive lights. And he lost every single one of them. Lucky I had my Go-Pro on otherwise a lot of people would be laughing at this haha.


Note that mine is a bone stock C43 with a new set of PS4S not a E43. You are right that in a quarter mile on track with a few tries the M4/C63s would be faster but small pulls like this are a game of probability of getting a good launch. And out of the 4 runs I had with the M4, I launched quicker than him all the four times very easily and got him by 2 car lengths in every run.

munis

Here you go. Measure mine. Real world roads are not that much of a controlled environment. Way more variables. The 43 launches more easy vs a M3 which has a higher probability of messing it up.

Vic55

To my point--- in a repetitive environment the E43 will generate much closer dig times to the published numbers than the F8X. I wont say Im a great driver but Ive done my time and logged in a lot of hours with 10 AMG's, 8 M's, and many others. The M car is a not going to get those numbers over and over again on the streets with the average "joe". I had such issues at certain times. 2/10ths of a second is easily covered in driver error and wheelspin; all of which will happen much more with rwd than awd.

I absolutely agree the M3/4 will catch the E43 and pull it into higher speeds but the dig romp is a good battle to say the least.

BACnMercedes

So since a new M550i is comparable on paper to the M4 coupe and M3 sedan, you are saying the E43 will "spank" an M550i too? They all have posted 0-60 times of 3.9 to 4.0 while the E43 is posted at 4.5. My point is, I've never been in a race with either one but I've been in both kinds of cars and I find it hard to believe an E43 is "spanking" these cars if they have comparable drivers.
Sorry but I agree with chiromikey.

Vic55

No one mentioned the M550i which I have driven as well. Its also an AWD car that has been mentioned many times as being faster than the current iteration F10 M5 (in reviews to 60) so this only furthers the point of AWD and launching for dummies. No one said that the E43 would beat the M550i LOL... and I doubt it would since both are easily launchable and the M550i has more hp and tq. Again, we are talking about "real world" dig races and not rollers where the M4 would win (as mentioned)

munis

Couldn't have worded it better.

ashva

I just wish the E43 had it's own forum. I'd almost rather read about the fastest prius.

BACnMercedes

darmawaa

EC makes turbo upgrade that is 72whp and 10wtq more than tuned e43 with stock turbo

shardul

iTrader: (1)

Your turbos are here

sgversace

did u end up getting that dyno ?

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

Nice necropost but I'm glad I got to read "fastest Prius"

allenjdmb

I have had 3 212 63's, 2 213 63s including a heavily modded wagon, some 211 55s, and several 210 55 and several others.i really enjoy driving my e43. The 9 speed is really fun, and though I don't have the juice I did in the 63, I can hang with all but the biggest boys. I'll get another 63 wagon once we get the new house done. I have a RT tune and suspension box, and they both work well. I get plenty of looks, I love a back road, and oh yeah, get 25mpg. I'll get another 63t, but think I'll wait til sanity comes back. The 43 is a great pleasure to drive. And I enjoy having my 125k back....