Please post your E63s lease deals
11-24-2018, 04:13 PM
#252
You likely approve for T1 for 00290 and they're marking up 10 basis pts or 0.24% APR which makes sense.
11-24-2018, 04:15 PM
#253
00260 would only be for A1 which is internal autoapproved scoring. I recall someone else maybe Vic mentioned this kind of credit approval is non-negotiable and must be done through MBFS internal scoring system.
You likely approve for T1 for 00290 and they're marking up 10 basis pts or 0.24% APR which makes sense.
You likely approve for T1 for 00290 and they're marking up 10 basis pts or 0.24% APR which makes sense.
How do you get A1? They just ran credit at 837.
11-24-2018, 04:16 PM
#255
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11-24-2018, 04:17 PM
#256
BMWFS vs MBFS and M5 vs E63S for leasing.
6 months ago I was looking at about 1600 for M5 at 116k MSRP my E63S that's on way to dealer is 120k MSRP before discount. Rates are definitely up because I visited BMW dealer they do markup MF 30-50 basis points but they're at or above what the E63S is going to be so rates are definitely up.
The only savings I'd have is on the shipping cost 1000-1500 and M5 includes maintenance. Not worth it to me sticking with the E63S by far prefer the interior and overall looks. Hoping to be able to use a $750 off winter sales event until end of Nov along with $500 AMG voucher.
6 months ago I was looking at about 1600 for M5 at 116k MSRP my E63S that's on way to dealer is 120k MSRP before discount. Rates are definitely up because I visited BMW dealer they do markup MF 30-50 basis points but they're at or above what the E63S is going to be so rates are definitely up.
The only savings I'd have is on the shipping cost 1000-1500 and M5 includes maintenance. Not worth it to me sticking with the E63S by far prefer the interior and overall looks. Hoping to be able to use a $750 off winter sales event until end of Nov along with $500 AMG voucher.
11-24-2018, 04:19 PM
#257
Vic previously said the only way to get the A1 super special preferred tier is to automatically approve for it. Dealer can't call in perhaps it's about being MB customer a long time but from what I remember raw credit score isn't sufficient to get A1 automatic approval. Not possible to negotiate for A1.
11-24-2018, 04:42 PM
#258
Guys—thanks SO much. This is huge.
They already backed off the crazy rate and got to 0.0029 / T1.
I’m now following Corrado79 and trying to get more off MSRP.
Corrado—did you do MSDs too?
They already backed off the crazy rate and got to 0.0029 / T1.
I’m now following Corrado79 and trying to get more off MSRP.
Corrado—did you do MSDs too?
11-24-2018, 05:01 PM
#259
Just a follow up on this:
There is another wagon that just opened up at another dealer. Apparently the original client that ordered it did the same thing I did when I was told they would only lease or sell at MSRP and markup Buy Rate for the lease. Different dealer. I went to look at both cars and see if the dealers were willing to soften position with me in person. There are 20 open E63s in California and dealers feel as a result of having only 20 cars they want to max out their profit. Neither dealer budged. I understand the short term business case but not the long term one. I have had only one MB in my driving history (got my ex-wife a GL a few years back). I have been primarily a BMW and Porsche guy (my two favorites being my most recent X5M and the .2 GT3). This is a chance for a MB dealer to get a client converted not only to the MB brand but to become loyal to a dealership. Over 30 cars purchased, leased and referred to my BMW dealer and I'm on my 5th Porsche from one dealer. I sound like a douche but I know how fortunate I am, just trying to make a point. I wish the MB dealers realized how fortunate they are to have passionate car guys like us as their prospective clients.
F them. I won't feel like I was taken for granted and my passion and love for cars won't be used against me. I sat in my E63s wagon today, it was beautiful, then drove over to the other dealer and sat in another that was equally as nice. However, I felt much better leaving the dealerships without the car than I would've felt if one were sitting in my driveway right now...Being taken advantage of is crappy, this is an easy decision for me. I am letting my E63s go, been texting with the GSM at BMW and will be picking up an M5 instead. While it isn't a wagon (my original order was a black wagon), it is an amazing car and I won't be taken advantage of.
There is another wagon that just opened up at another dealer. Apparently the original client that ordered it did the same thing I did when I was told they would only lease or sell at MSRP and markup Buy Rate for the lease. Different dealer. I went to look at both cars and see if the dealers were willing to soften position with me in person. There are 20 open E63s in California and dealers feel as a result of having only 20 cars they want to max out their profit. Neither dealer budged. I understand the short term business case but not the long term one. I have had only one MB in my driving history (got my ex-wife a GL a few years back). I have been primarily a BMW and Porsche guy (my two favorites being my most recent X5M and the .2 GT3). This is a chance for a MB dealer to get a client converted not only to the MB brand but to become loyal to a dealership. Over 30 cars purchased, leased and referred to my BMW dealer and I'm on my 5th Porsche from one dealer. I sound like a douche but I know how fortunate I am, just trying to make a point. I wish the MB dealers realized how fortunate they are to have passionate car guys like us as their prospective clients.
F them. I won't feel like I was taken for granted and my passion and love for cars won't be used against me. I sat in my E63s wagon today, it was beautiful, then drove over to the other dealer and sat in another that was equally as nice. However, I felt much better leaving the dealerships without the car than I would've felt if one were sitting in my driveway right now...Being taken advantage of is crappy, this is an easy decision for me. I am letting my E63s go, been texting with the GSM at BMW and will be picking up an M5 instead. While it isn't a wagon (my original order was a black wagon), it is an amazing car and I won't be taken advantage of.
There's plenty of dealers that'll give you 4%-6% off MSRP for E63S no need to deal with that local rip off even if you have to pay to ship it in. Perhaps BMW is going to give you a better deal since you've given them so much business in the past.
11-24-2018, 05:02 PM
#260
11-25-2018, 01:39 AM
#265
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11-25-2018, 07:11 AM
#266
11-28-2018, 02:44 PM
#267
Was told 54% for 12k/36 month
Dealer was $60 per month higher than my leasehackr calc. Finance manager on the phone with me using all the same MSRP / Sales price , sales tax, doc fees, acquisition fee (995) everything checked and triple checked. They claim MBFS will figure it out ever heard of that?
Last edited by pentium7; 11-28-2018 at 07:12 PM.
11-29-2018, 11:49 AM
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11-29-2018, 02:52 PM
#270
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314? Is that new + used? What years? I am having trouble determining the options of all of the listings on E63 Sedan on Autotrader. Does anybody have a trick to this? Meaning, if the poster does not put the equipment the car is configured with... how do you figure it out? By calling the dealer?
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11-29-2018, 03:04 PM
#271
New 2019 sedans.
Try this link: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...&firstRecord=0
I wouldn't do too many filters as many listings are incomplete. Exterior color is usually updated, beyond that you risk missing listings.
Try this link: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...&firstRecord=0
I wouldn't do too many filters as many listings are incomplete. Exterior color is usually updated, beyond that you risk missing listings.
314? Is that new + used? What years? I am having trouble determining the options of all of the listings on E63 Sedan on Autotrader. Does anybody have a trick to this? Meaning, if the poster does not put the equipment the car is configured with... how do you figure it out? By calling the dealer?
12-02-2018, 03:50 AM
#272
MBWorld Fanatic!
New 2019 sedans.
Try this link: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...&firstRecord=0
I wouldn't do too many filters as many listings are incomplete. Exterior color is usually updated, beyond that you risk missing listings.
Try this link: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...&firstRecord=0
I wouldn't do too many filters as many listings are incomplete. Exterior color is usually updated, beyond that you risk missing listings.
We should make a Google Sheet with every VIN and collaborate to resolve what's out there. Like a Wikipedia for E63s for sale, with all of the details us dorks care about.
12-02-2018, 12:11 PM
#273
MBWorld Fanatic!
Any trick on how to check what features a listing has? Nitpicky stuff like soft close doors, 3D surround system, massage seats. Is there a way to do it by the VIN?
We should make a Google Sheet with every VIN and collaborate to resolve what's out there. Like a Wikipedia for E63s for sale, with all of the details us dorks care about.
We should make a Google Sheet with every VIN and collaborate to resolve what's out there. Like a Wikipedia for E63s for sale, with all of the details us dorks care about.
https://express.mercedesbenzofdanbur...63%20S%20Sedan
12-02-2018, 02:05 PM
#274
I don’t know why I’m curious—since I’m locked in—likely just hoping to rationalize not having my dealer hold the car for a week until 12/1...
But does anyone know if December has any incentives or superior MF or residual % for the E63S Wagon than November...?
But does anyone know if December has any incentives or superior MF or residual % for the E63S Wagon than November...?
12-02-2018, 02:24 PM
#275
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Here is my deal:
Lease:
Selling Price: $119,895
Term: 36 Months
Mileage: 15000
Residual: 52%
MF: .00300
Payment: $2249.44
Amount Due at Startup: $2798.44
