chiromikey

I think there was another one also...

kponti

chiromikey

That was the event I was thinking of but I couldn’t find the race against the Audi.

le rafiot

most important
dsc off
launch control 4000(up 500 tr with right paddle shift)
gaz 94 oct more consistent (timming same all run)
tire 50 psi
good da
tank fuel empty and car to :-)
driver 160 lbs

kponti

And we have an answer, le rafiot gutted himself up for the ran, not fair not stock! (I kid I kid)

le rafiot

Hahaha
Exactly I wanted the 10 with a family car ... had to work a little for the last tenth 😁

Vic55

Just looks like a bad launch for the RS7... I wasnt there so I dont know but the power level yields the correct result.

thanks for the vid.

Amg63-

Surprised to see a stock w213 trapping 127mph

most stock examples we have seen so far don’t do higher than 125mph

PeterUbers

Realtime this is a league ahead of the w212 amg

i have yet to see a vbox of a stock e63S 14-16 that has a 0-60 of less than 3.7 seconds ... benz claimed 3.6 and one car mag got 3.3

2.85 is damn impressive

Vic55

I agree and even if there is a correction, its still strong. Further, the car just will out handle the outgoing car by a large margin. Its just a better engine, chassis, all blended with the suspension and 9 speed tranny. Yes we can all buy a used W212 for less and save money but thats the case with any outgoing model whether it be Audi, BMW, etc.

PeterUbers

sure i can tune my w212 amg to close the margin but then my warranty is at stake

W213, this is supercar performance with a warranty

looking forward to buying a cpo w213amg

kponti

For once I am actually considering buying new.....smh.....
This is the first time I feel like the stock power will feel enough for me (I do not race the family sedan). The W212 always felt slow despite its ridiculous HP output for the time, it took a tune from Eurocharged to make it come alive. So If I do not plan to tune, I may just go new and keep for 5 years (who am I kidding? I probably won't last that long with the same daily lol)

Aamir_

2.85s to 60mph is... Lamborghini Aventador levels of performance. That's UNREAL.

TMC M5

It isn't so much taking the vbox results with a grain of salt, as it is understanding the differences between a GPS based datalogger and how the timing lights at the track work. Having done dozens of runs at the track while using the vbox simultaneously (with multiple platforms), I came to find out that my ETs were faster on the track time slip but with a lower trap speed. The way I like to stage at the track (inching up to trip the staging lights) and with large front wheels (19-20") I found that if I maniulpated the datalogging report to show about a foot and a half roll-out... my ETs were within 100th of a second between the vbox and the time slip. The trap speed is the usual difference between an average mph for the last 66' on the time slip vs the GPS derived trap speed at 1,320'.

Now when you compare vbox times out on the street vs a track time the slope and other conditions create deviations in the results. For instance I have a "private road" I run my street tests on very early in the morning. It has about a 2% declining slope. But I also like to run in more optimal conditions when the air is especially good. It is only 15 minutes from my house and the cars can usually get up to operating temps by the time I get there. When I go to the track I have to drive an hour + and usually it is a rental and the weather is whatever it is that day. So I have to wait for the car to cool back down and I haven't been real lucky when I have gone (seems the last 3 times have been unseasonably warm). So having my little testing road so close, I can do it more on whim when I see a nice cold front come in. I am probably not alone and maybe that is why some vbox times seem more optimistic...because they are likely done it more optimal conditions.... which shouldnt be an indictment of the equipment... or the results.... but just an understanding that the conditions generating the numbers are probably optimized. That is why I usually report all the test conditions when I post the results online.

le rafiot

Absolutely right with you

chiromikey

I agree with what you’re saying. I guess I have seen too many people playing too many games with elevation and roll out when reporting numbers. One of my biggest gripes with vbox is when people report their 0-60 times on the same run as their 1/4mile times. I know rollout on the vbox helps accommodate the 11.5” between the staging beams at the starting line on a certified NHRA drag strip but it should not be used when measuring 0-60 times. And I don’t care if “that’s the way some magazines do it”...it’s WRONG! 0-60 means starting from ZERO, not 3, 4, or 5 mph like happens with rollout. So I do think it can be used accurately, but it does have the vulnerability to be skewed...which is why I made my grain of salt comment.