Changes for MY2019 E63S?
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Am I the only one a little annoyed about recently purchasing a 2018 and my steering wheel will look 'dated' in a month or two? I'm not going to lose sleep but it's a little annoying to be honest.
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what is supposed to be named these changes this year? a face-lift? a minor update? was it even planned?
for all I have been analyzing from the various models and classes it seems MB is trying to build a more cohesive brand identity, with respect to interior and exterior styling and associate equipment. the steering wheel was one of those elements. the displays will be another example. on the AMG version top models probably they will be coming with a panamericana front grill, so i expect this to be one of the key elements to change in the exterior design of the AMG E class on the scheduled 2021 face-lift (if there are no more "experiments" meanwhile).
i'm sympathetic with you. it is really annoying that. at least they could alert clients of the pending update. but i guess there is money to be made and inventory to be moved...
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on the spot! I have been questioning the same. in my case i got kind of lucky with all these MB delays and shortages of equipment because i will get the MY19 updates, but it is really bad move. Very surprising with this kind of behavior from a premium brand like MB.
what is supposed to be named these changes this year? a face-lift? a minor update? was it even planned?
for all I have been analyzing from the various models and classes it seems MB is trying to build a more cohesive brand identity, with respect to interior and exterior styling and associate equipment. the steering wheel was one of those elements. the displays will be another example. on the AMG version top models probably they will be coming with a panamericana front grill, so i expect this to be one of the key elements to change in the exterior design of the AMG E class on the scheduled 2021 face-lift (if there are no more "experiments" meanwhile).
i'm sympathetic with you. it is really annoying that. at least they could alert clients of the pending update. but i guess there is money to be made and inventory to be moved...
what is supposed to be named these changes this year? a face-lift? a minor update? was it even planned?
for all I have been analyzing from the various models and classes it seems MB is trying to build a more cohesive brand identity, with respect to interior and exterior styling and associate equipment. the steering wheel was one of those elements. the displays will be another example. on the AMG version top models probably they will be coming with a panamericana front grill, so i expect this to be one of the key elements to change in the exterior design of the AMG E class on the scheduled 2021 face-lift (if there are no more "experiments" meanwhile).
i'm sympathetic with you. it is really annoying that. at least they could alert clients of the pending update. but i guess there is money to be made and inventory to be moved...
After the new round of BMWs hit, I expect the W206 C will have improved driving dynamics to keep up. But this is the same car refreshed.
For leasing, I’m glad my lease will end in 2021 for the W206. This refresh one is neither here nor there for current W205 owners.
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They are just jiggering stuff around to keep it fresh. They didn’t substantially change that car. This is a refresh. Its not like they added a limited slip or anything. Same dynamics.
After the new round of BMWs hit, I expect the W206 C will have improved driving dynamics to keep up. But this is the same car refreshed.
For leasing, I’m glad my lease will end in 2021 for the W206. This refresh one is neither here nor there for current W205 owners.
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They are just jiggering stuff around to keep it fresh. They didn’t substantially change that car. This is a refresh. Its not like they added a limited slip or anything. Same dynamics.
After the new round of BMWs hit, I expect the W206 C will have improved driving dynamics to keep up. But this is the same car refreshed.
For leasing, I’m glad my lease will end in 2021 for the W206. This refresh one is neither here nor there for current W205 owners.
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exactly! completely nonsense and only shows that MB is completely out of their game and trying to put order in the house.
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I don’t think anyone called MY2019 changes a “refresh.” These are just running tweaks to the current generation. Just like how they changed what paint colors were available for certain markets. The true mid cycle refresh is still a couple of model years away.
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ok, let me see. so why not start making this a common thing? every year a car changes, by a small step. we can call this system "design and planning on the run". how would anyone feel after buying a brand new top of state of the art car and only less than year after a "new" model comes out?
i think this would be acceptable for a Chinese brand or a lower segment car but not for a major luxury brand like MB. here, consistence and medium to long term planning should be taken as a premise.
it seems we are getting so accustomed to the method used by smart phones companies that we take this absurd planned obsolescence to other realms.
i think this would be acceptable for a Chinese brand or a lower segment car but not for a major luxury brand like MB. here, consistence and medium to long term planning should be taken as a premise.
it seems we are getting so accustomed to the method used by smart phones companies that we take this absurd planned obsolescence to other realms.
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ok, let me see. so why not start making this a common thing? every year a car changes, by a small step. we can call this system "design and planning on the run". how would anyone feel after buying a brand new top of state of the art car and only less than year after a "new" model comes out?
i think this would be acceptable for a Chinese brand or a lower segment car but not for a major luxury brand like MB. here, consistence and medium to long term planning should be taken as a premise.
it seems we are getting so accustomed to the method used by smart phones companies that we take this absurd planned obsolescence to other realms.
i think this would be acceptable for a Chinese brand or a lower segment car but not for a major luxury brand like MB. here, consistence and medium to long term planning should be taken as a premise.
it seems we are getting so accustomed to the method used by smart phones companies that we take this absurd planned obsolescence to other realms.
A few years ago, there was an update to all 2012 Ferrari’s...a factory 7-year maintenance warranty. Imagine if you bought a 2011 458 only to find that a 2012 came with something that offered both peace of mind and increased resale value!
And Tesla? They make running changes on all models, all year long. I bought a Model S for my commute—only to find cars made a month later got LTE connectivity in place of the 3G system I had...
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the exterior design is the same, the mechanics are the same, the interior is the same apart from the new steering wheel, that we know now is NOT new: the new one is that with two side buttons for dynamic select, that is being shipped on the GT 4 and AMG C63 and other coming versions.
the E class brought 2 new motorizations and the AMG E class brought one motorization (ending the E43 after only 2 years !!).
that is the problem. i don't know if anyone, including MB, can define what they have done with this MY19. to me it seems they are trying to put some order in the house.
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...I'm saying it's not. They changed the steering wheel and that's all...on a car that has only been on sale in the US since October 2017. You don't "refresh" an 11 month old car with a steering wheel.
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ok, so we agree...
i asked if anyone knows how to call this update/change, since clearly it is not a face-lift or mid-life update or whatever we usually call it. and if it is not that how can a top brand like MB take a model like E43 and just stop its production after 2 years, and comes with a change out of the blue on the steering wheel on one of the hallmark cars int its history with AMG, the E63? it blows my mind. i know that companies have to make money, and there are change of plans, but not like this. this is chaotic. i never expected this from a brand like MB. people buy a car and just weeks later comes an update to the same car rending it immediately outdated. insane.
i'm seeing this from outside, because after all I was lucky with all the delays since I will now get a more recent car that, hopefully, will be more close to the cohesive design that MB seems to be searching for. but i'm very sympathetic to all of those that bought it trusting that MB was sticking with its normal schedule and would not mess around with things so quickly and so chaotic. they don't even seem to have settle on the kind of AC vents to use on their models for Christ sake. who guarantees now that next year they will not come up with a new minor update to the E-class to use the fancy turbine-like vents?
i asked if anyone knows how to call this update/change, since clearly it is not a face-lift or mid-life update or whatever we usually call it. and if it is not that how can a top brand like MB take a model like E43 and just stop its production after 2 years, and comes with a change out of the blue on the steering wheel on one of the hallmark cars int its history with AMG, the E63? it blows my mind. i know that companies have to make money, and there are change of plans, but not like this. this is chaotic. i never expected this from a brand like MB. people buy a car and just weeks later comes an update to the same car rending it immediately outdated. insane.
i'm seeing this from outside, because after all I was lucky with all the delays since I will now get a more recent car that, hopefully, will be more close to the cohesive design that MB seems to be searching for. but i'm very sympathetic to all of those that bought it trusting that MB was sticking with its normal schedule and would not mess around with things so quickly and so chaotic. they don't even seem to have settle on the kind of AC vents to use on their models for Christ sake. who guarantees now that next year they will not come up with a new minor update to the E-class to use the fancy turbine-like vents?
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That's what I thought. I asked the question only because in an earlier post, someone called the 2019 a 'refresh.'
In my opinion, MB should offer special pricing (or free) to all 2018 owners who want the 2019 steering wheel. If it's reasonable, then I'd like to get one.
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[QUOTE=Andrew-NY;7533787]That's what I thought. I asked the question only because in an earlier post, someone called the 2019 a 'refresh.'
I think that the new controls don't look that good. Too many things for my thumbs to deal with. If you decide to retrofit the new wheel, I would be interested in your old one if it does have Napa leather all around.
I think that the new controls don't look that good. Too many things for my thumbs to deal with. If you decide to retrofit the new wheel, I would be interested in your old one if it does have Napa leather all around.
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I don't care for the new steering wheel either, just like HBHerman. It's too shiny for my taste and just a bit much. I am quite happy with my 2018 E63 wagon on a color that I love that is not offered any more and with a steering wheel that is more to my liking. Glad that I got the 2018!
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Okay, sure.. and yes it has Napa all around. Still need to find out a couple things. Most important, need to know for sure that the 2019 wheel will definitely work on the 2018s. And the price of the new wheel to see if it's even worth it.
That's what I thought. I asked the question only because in an earlier post, someone called the 2019 a 'refresh.'
I think that the new controls don't look that good. Too many things for my thumbs to deal with. If you decide to retrofit the new wheel, I would be interested in your old one if it does have Napa leather all around.
I think that the new controls don't look that good. Too many things for my thumbs to deal with. If you decide to retrofit the new wheel, I would be interested in your old one if it does have Napa leather all around.
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[QUOTE=Andrew-NY;7536230]To me changing out the steering wheel sounds like mission impossible plus I'm will willing to bet the new wheel is well over $1000.00 maybe more.
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You might be right, changing the wheel might be too involved and therefore not worth it.
I'll guess the new wheel will cost way more than $1000, maybe $2500 or so. MB might offer 2018 owners a special price but we'll have to see.
I'll guess the new wheel will cost way more than $1000, maybe $2500 or so. MB might offer 2018 owners a special price but we'll have to see.
