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Looking forward to hearing how you like the install. I called Mid City to get some clarifications - thought I would pass them on for the benefit of the group. Maybe they're obvious - I couldn't find it in their documentation.
Volume control is used to program the radar features while in the radar menu, but once you exit the radar menu, volume control returns so you can control your audio. If the radar triggers, you can use the mute feature on the steering wheel to silence the alert (and not alter the audio volume). Curious how this works in practicality.
If you go with the Escort Max product with front and back, you can select the directional arrows (or designation) as part of the radar displays (so you get the benefit of knowing where the alert comes from).
I have the 9500 integrated in another car. Works great - but many false alerts from car tech (back-up cameras, ACC, etc.). End up hitting mute quite often. Hopefully the new Escort feature limits the false alerts.
I can't see a lot of downside going this route (unless you don't want to spend the $). I can't stand seeing wires and things dangling from the window.
Looking forward to hearing how you like the install. I called Mid City to get some clarifications - thought I would pass them on for the benefit of the group. Maybe they're obvious - I couldn't find it in their documentation.
Volume control is used to program the radar features while in the radar menu, but once you exit the radar menu, volume control returns so you can control your audio. If the radar triggers, you can use the mute feature on the steering wheel to silence the alert (and not alter the audio volume). Curious how this works in practicality.
If you go with the Escort Max product with front and back, you can select the directional arrows (or designation) as part of the radar displays (so you get the benefit of knowing where the alert comes from).
I have the 9500 integrated in another car. Works great - but many false alerts from car tech (back-up cameras, ACC, etc.). End up hitting mute quite often. Hopefully the new Escort feature limits the false alerts.
I can't see a lot of downside going this route (unless you don't want to spend the $). I can't stand seeing wires and things dangling from the window.
Will let you know.
I did a fair bit of research on this detector and spoke with some users. The general consensus is that this is the best detector in terms of filtering out false alerts from car tech. It also has the best range. The detector is digital so they are able to do more to filter out falses from vehicles than with traditional analog detectors. Also Escort stopped developing the 9500 so they didn’t bother to install any filters for BSM/ACC.
BTW for others reading this - do not buy the 9500ci. It is end-of-life and obsolete. It won’t jam modern lidar guns. It picks up blindspot and adaptive cruise control radar. This make it pretty bad. Escort is replacing the 9500ci with the iX CI which is a new entry level installed detector priced at $1500 which will sit a notch below the Max CI360 in the line up. The iX CI is an analog detector, and its false filtering is comparable to escort’s newer windshield units like the Max360c but it won’t be on the same level as the Max CI360.
I’m looking forward to it. I have the Net Radar in my Porsche and I don’t really like that at all. If this works out, I will probably also change the radar on the Porsche. Midcity has an integration kit for Porsche too.
Last edited by stealth.pilot; Mar 1, 2018 at 05:34 PM.
In his 0 to 60 video, Parker appeared to have plugged his VBOX into a cigarette lighter plug on the passenger side of the car, not into the center console.
He has the same NFC/Qi wireless charging as my car, where replaces the cigarette lighter plug in the front part of the center console, so I know he wasn't plugging it in there.
I looked around and haven't found anything on the passenger side of the car up front. I'm wondering if maybe he just used an extension cable to get to the plug in the rear of the center console and it just looked like he was plugging it in up front.
Anyway, figured I'd ask and see if anyone has noticed a second cigarette lighter plug up front.
2018 E63S: Former cars 2016 C450, 2013 C350, 2009 C300
Originally Posted by E634Me
In his 0 to 60 video, Parker appeared to have plugged his VBOX into a cigarette lighter plug on the passenger side of the car, not into the center console.
He has the same NFC/Qi wireless charging as my car, where replaces the cigarette lighter plug in the front part of the center console, so I know he wasn't plugging it in there.
I looked around and haven't found anything on the passenger side of the car up front. I'm wondering if maybe he just used an extension cable to get to the plug in the rear of the center console and it just looked like he was plugging it in up front.
Anyway, figured I'd ask and see if anyone has noticed a second cigarette lighter plug up front.
Does anyone know how to pull of the pillars and pull down the roof to run wires behind?
You can just push the cable in behind the pillar. I installed my own voltage detector onto one of the spare fuses on the driver side fuse box after having had no luck on finding a switched fuse. It’s really simple and detects if the voltage drops below say 12.7v it then switches off. And will automatically switch back on around 13.1. In short it can detect when the car is charging aka dam thing is on. It takes a min or so to switch off which is good cause it won’t switch off when start stop Engadges. I can upload some installation pics I think I still have if people need it I was surprised that nobody made these things for cars
So the price will vary based on who does the install and how much equipment you install.
Options with the Escort include:
Front radar only ($2000)
Front and rear radar ($2500)
Front radar and 2 laser jammers ($2500)
Front and rear radar and 4 laser jammers ($3500)
Front and rear radar and 6 laser jammers ($4350)
Midcity Engineering integration with factory controls ($450)
I am getting front and rear radar and 6 laser jammers plus the mid city engineering integration package (which gives you integration with steering wheel controls, instrument cluster and HUD). So my total package with installation will be $5k plus tax.
2018 E63S: Former cars 2016 C450, 2013 C350, 2009 C300
Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
So the price will vary based on who does the install and how much equipment you install.
Options with the Escort include:
Front radar only ($2000)
Front and rear radar ($2500)
Front radar and 2 laser jammers ($2500)
Front and rear radar and 4 laser jammers ($3500)
Front and rear radar and 6 laser jammers ($4350)
Midcity Engineering integration with factory controls ($450)
I am getting front and rear radar and 6 laser jammers plus the mid city engineering integration package (which gives you integration with steering wheel controls, instrument cluster and HUD). So my total package with installation will be $5k plus tax.
could you you send pictures of the mounting points they used for the jammers. I can’t figure out where to mount them the way the diffuser is shaped
2018 E63S: Former cars 2016 C450, 2013 C350, 2009 C300
Originally Posted by abokor
What is the prevailing thinking on rear laser jammers? I've hear front are sufficient.
We just have some cops that sit behind turns and hit you from the back. Idk if its a widespread thing or local to Louisiana particularly the New Orleans area. I would rather be safe then sorry
I've noticed a few that sit behind the construction barricade on a stretch of highway near me parked nose out waiting to get people driving faster than the construction zone limit. Haven't seen any since I got my R3 back from repair so don't know if they're using radar or laser, but seems like a reasonable laser scenario to me.
I guess I'm glad that my car did not come with the charging pad so I have a cigarette lighter in the front. I just keep my Radenso on the dash in the middle so it goes through that lower passage in the acoustic glass.
On the back of the center console there is a panel that flips down to provide a 12 VDC jack for the rear seat passengers as well as a 115 VAC outlet because in my case I ordered that option.
i assume the DC outlet is still there for the rear seat passengers even if the AC outlet wasn’t ordered.
As far as getting the charging pad vs the 12 V outlet and ashtray, I don't think anyone figured that one out. I thought for sure I'd be getting the charging pad as my car was produced mid september last year, so late enough, plus I had the gloss black center console. I remember people saying if you had the carbon fiber center console you'd get the 12 V and with the gloss black you'd get the charging pad. I got the 12 V, lol, but actually am glad of it now as I have a iPhone 6 plus and don't think that woulda worked with the charging pad anyhow and I currently have my Radar detector plugged into the outlet.
Hmm. The 3/3/18 DOG lists Inductive Wireless Charging w/ NFC Pairing as standard (w/out any footnote to Carbon Fiber as posted in the forum previously). I realize the DOG says "Subject to change". I'll have to ask my SA. I understand having it is a mixed bag based on other's comments, but nice to understand what you'll get and why - also if you want the 12V for a detector versus hardwired.
Audi R8, Alfa Romeo Quad, 991tt,cls550, 997tt, 85 Carrera
Originally Posted by abokor
What is the prevailing thinking on rear laser jammers? I've hear front are sufficient.
This is the first car I put jammers in the rear. I hear rumors that some of the local cops are hitting from the rear. Most of my driving I am using Drive Pilot, music cranked up, and just getting thru rush hour traffic. If and when the road is fully clear I will open it up and with this car you can reach triple digits very quickly. So I installed the rear jammers because I want to decrease my chance of going to jail.
How did you determine the optimal distance and placement? Is that something the installer knows? I've also seen other installs where they were right over the plate.
2018 E63S: Former cars 2016 C450, 2013 C350, 2009 C300
Originally Posted by 2020
This is the first car I put jammers in the rear. I hear rumors that some of the local cops are hitting from the rear. Most of my driving I am using Drive Pilot, music cranked up, and just getting thru rush hour traffic. If and when the road is fully clear I will open it up and with this car you can reach triple digits very quickly. So I installed the rear jammers because I want to decrease my chance of going to jail.
thank you so much for the placement. Did they have to drill into that plastic piece to pass the cables though or were they able to squeeze them behind it. That’s where I was thinking of getting them installed just didn’t know how complicated I was going to be to get the wires through the plastic without making it look bad.
I have the R3 and moved the location to the left side of the mirror in preparation for hard wiring power. It’s been detecting radar OK, but I hadn’t heard any laser since moving it to that location.
This morning some SD county motorcycle cops were doing speed enforcement near my house. I live on a hill so the speeds tend to exceed the limit at the bottom of my street unless people ride the brakes. The other problem we have is that when the light changes people will blow through it sometimes a couple seconds after the light has changed green for cross traffic. We warn all our guests to be really careful when leaving. Because of this, we really don’t mind too much when they’re out there doing enforcement.
Rather than drive around waiting to see if they would laser me in traffic, I just went down there and asked if they would do it. One of the officers said sure
So I pulled out the car and he lit me up and the unit beeped as it should.
My worry was that with the acoustic package and infrared sun options on the car that I might see some blockage in the windshield where I mounted the R3.
Now I know I’m OK.
May eventually invest in a laser jammer, but for now this will have to do me as I’m typically driving more or less within the limits around town.
I have the R3 and moved the location to the left side of the mirror in preparation for hard wiring power. It’s been detecting radar OK, but I hadn’t heard any laser since moving it to that location.
This morning some SD county motorcycle cops were doing speed enforcement near my house. I live on a hill so the speeds tend to exceed the limit at the bottom of my street unless people ride the brakes. The other problem we have is that when the light changes people will blow through it sometimes a couple seconds after the light has changed green for cross traffic. We warn all our guests to be really careful when leaving. Because of this, we really don’t mind too much when they’re out there doing enforcement.
Rather than drive around waiting to see if they would laser me in traffic, I just went down there and asked if they would do it. One of the officers said sure
So I pulled out the car and he lit me up and the unit beeped as it should.
My worry was that with the acoustic package and infrared sun options on the car that I might see some blockage in the windshield where I mounted the R3.
Now I know I’m OK.
May eventually invest in a laser jammer, but for now this will have to do me as I’m typically driving more or less within the limits around town.
I'm surprised it works so well without it being mounted in a pass through with the Acoustic glass. That was one reason I mounted my Radenso low and in the center of the dash as I know there is a pass through there. I'll mount my EZ Pass high up to the right of the Mirror on the passenger side as I know there is a pass through there. In my S550 I have my Florida toll transponder mounted there and it seems to work fine.. What would you have done if you were a little over the limit after you asked the cop to hit you up with the laser and he gave you a ticket?
I mounted mine behind the pass through on the left side of the mirror.
I was parked about a hundred feet from the officer on my street, past the point where it becomes a private drive. So little risk of being cited.
Now I am very careful every morning to hold it to the limit in the area where I know they are enforcing. I try to not accelerate too hard on a cold motor, but even then it is easy to exceed the 45 MPH limit before I get to their favorite spot.
