F90 M5 vs E63s
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04-01-2018, 02:13 PM
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was just listening to M8 which is supposed to be based on same powertrain as M5. At least sounds a lot better.
04-02-2018, 03:15 PM
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I finally was able to take the time and properly learn how to set up the car through the many drive settings as well as take it out to the Malibu canyons yesterday to see how the car behaved on the twisty stuff while opening her up on the highways and the canyons.
I will say that I was bit disappointed the first few days of owning this car compared to the E63s. It did not feel as fast and as exciting as the AMG. However, this weekend I started driving the M5 more like one of my 911 GT3 cars and not like the E63 and boy did its personality emerge.
To me at least this car should be driven more like a sports car and not a super sedan. Rev it high as the power does not really come on until 4500 RPM but once it does hold on because it is a freaking beast. Just like the GT3 you hit a threshold in the rpm band and an entire new car emerges that pushes you to keep pushing it more and more. It is the opposite of the E63 which has so much power down low but then flattens out.
I had no idea what the buttons on the shift lever did or how to properly set up the drive settings in a way that when you did open her up it didn’t feel like a 7 series. Sh*t I just found out last night, by accident that the main screen was a touch screen as well!
Although the car does not sound nearly as good as the E63 I am now happy with my mickey mouse resonator removal. After breaking it in for 200 miles the car sounds very aggressive (compared to stock) and with very minimal drone which was horrible at first. This will have to do until a properly exhaust systems comes out but so far people love the sound.
The interior quality and tech to me is much better than the E63. As I mentioned above I am still learning new menus and stuff the car can do daily. Wish it was a bit easier to use but I am starting to get the hang of it after 10 years of now owning a BMW and mostly daily driving Porsches and BMW.
Also, as far as transmission this automatic is WAY better, faster, smoother and smarter than the AMG 9 speed MCT.
The car does feel faster once you’re in the higher RPMs. You really must get on the car to truly experience the speed while in the E63 its always there but not as ferocious as in the M5. I do think now after experiencing its potential that the M5 is faster than the E63 but just marginally.
The brakes in the M5 are vastly superior than the E63s. Its almost night and day. The brakes in the E63 were always a bit soft and mushy while in the M5 there is great feel and stopping power. (I have the steel brakes).
The best part about this M5 is really the handling and steering. It is so communicative and light that it is very easy to toss the car into corners and the car just sticks. I mean the E63 was a workout going through the canyons… this car feels about 1000 lbs. less than it is.
So to end this very long write up I am no longer disappointed in my switch from the E63s to the M5 and am actually ecstatic with the car. A few people on this board have sent me PMs to ask which car to get and at first, I would say the E63 but now the M5 all the way! The E63s is the perfect muscle car and some people including myself love that however the M5 is the best 4 door sports car I have ever driven…. Just be prepared to purchase an aftermarket exhaust system.
I will say that I was bit disappointed the first few days of owning this car compared to the E63s. It did not feel as fast and as exciting as the AMG. However, this weekend I started driving the M5 more like one of my 911 GT3 cars and not like the E63 and boy did its personality emerge.
To me at least this car should be driven more like a sports car and not a super sedan. Rev it high as the power does not really come on until 4500 RPM but once it does hold on because it is a freaking beast. Just like the GT3 you hit a threshold in the rpm band and an entire new car emerges that pushes you to keep pushing it more and more. It is the opposite of the E63 which has so much power down low but then flattens out.
I had no idea what the buttons on the shift lever did or how to properly set up the drive settings in a way that when you did open her up it didn’t feel like a 7 series. Sh*t I just found out last night, by accident that the main screen was a touch screen as well!
Although the car does not sound nearly as good as the E63 I am now happy with my mickey mouse resonator removal. After breaking it in for 200 miles the car sounds very aggressive (compared to stock) and with very minimal drone which was horrible at first. This will have to do until a properly exhaust systems comes out but so far people love the sound.
The interior quality and tech to me is much better than the E63. As I mentioned above I am still learning new menus and stuff the car can do daily. Wish it was a bit easier to use but I am starting to get the hang of it after 10 years of now owning a BMW and mostly daily driving Porsches and BMW.
Also, as far as transmission this automatic is WAY better, faster, smoother and smarter than the AMG 9 speed MCT.
The car does feel faster once you’re in the higher RPMs. You really must get on the car to truly experience the speed while in the E63 its always there but not as ferocious as in the M5. I do think now after experiencing its potential that the M5 is faster than the E63 but just marginally.
The brakes in the M5 are vastly superior than the E63s. Its almost night and day. The brakes in the E63 were always a bit soft and mushy while in the M5 there is great feel and stopping power. (I have the steel brakes).
The best part about this M5 is really the handling and steering. It is so communicative and light that it is very easy to toss the car into corners and the car just sticks. I mean the E63 was a workout going through the canyons… this car feels about 1000 lbs. less than it is.
So to end this very long write up I am no longer disappointed in my switch from the E63s to the M5 and am actually ecstatic with the car. A few people on this board have sent me PMs to ask which car to get and at first, I would say the E63 but now the M5 all the way! The E63s is the perfect muscle car and some people including myself love that however the M5 is the best 4 door sports car I have ever driven…. Just be prepared to purchase an aftermarket exhaust system.
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04-02-2018, 03:51 PM
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Nice update--- I think you found the perfect usage for the M5 which is sedan driving like a sports car vs GT cruising. I am going to need to drive one of these soon but I really dont need another sedan LOL.
04-02-2018, 04:03 PM
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04-02-2018, 06:13 PM
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Nice update quickurn
i knew the trans would be smoother than the mct
i love my tc zf in my Bmw 550
i knew the trans would be smoother than the mct
i love my tc zf in my Bmw 550
04-02-2018, 06:35 PM
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Be interesting to see how the reliability is with the beamer although I guess with the lemon you had in the benz it can't get much worse lol. Sounds like you found your match. I could not consider the beamer as I need a wagon and am quite happy with my Red bomber.
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Got to take the M5 for a spin today. It's hard to describe the speed but if I tried I'd say the hp & torque gradually push you back into the seat with more and more force until the next gear change comes and then it starts all over again. Before you know it you're hitting triple digits in a relatively heavy car and it doesn't even feel like you're even a blip over the speed limit. Is that a bad or a good thing? lol
04-02-2018, 11:16 PM
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Got to take the M5 for a spin today. It's hard to describe the speed but if I tried I'd say the hp & torque gradually push you back into the seat with more and more force until the next gear change comes and then it starts all over again. Before you know it you're hitting triple digits in a relatively heavy car and it doesn't even feel like you're even a blip over the speed limit. Is that a bad or a good thing? lol
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basically how the e63S feels
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04-09-2018, 04:01 PM
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you mean exterior?
from pics it seems like the m5 looks a little more rugged and sporty but of course in person I can understand how things can be different.
What about it didn’t you like?
interesting to see after quickburn7 had more seat time in the m5, that the m5 feels faster in a straight line.
Is just the settings? In the carwow video I noticed even with the jump the e63s still pulled it
Last edited by Amg63-; 04-09-2018 at 04:13 PM.
