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Old 06-01-2018, 01:41 PM
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E63S vs M5 - Edmunds

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Saw it over at the M5 board--- very close and a crap shoot on what you want from a comfort, sound, looks, driveability perspective.

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Sure the M is slightly quicker, but the Merc sounds better, and comes in Wagon trim
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Fall in love more and more with my E63 every time I drive it. I agree with Carlos in the video I think the E63 looks better than the M5. I haven't heard an M5 in person though so I can't comment on the soundtrack.

Realistically it should be the M5 Competition vs. the E63 S.
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Watched the video

lol... bimmer already giving them errors and malfunction warnings

did I miss something or is the new e63 a FOUR seater like the cls63 now? That's what the video mentions
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Nice review. It really will come down to brand preference. Going to homestead next week with BMW organized event. Will play around with the M5 and report back
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What color is that on the E63? Imperial Blue?

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A few observations....

The Edmunds E63 had the harsh sport seats. The MB massage seats are really nice. No complaints. I have them. Supposedly nicer than the M5.

The Burmester 3D stereo is exceptional. Blows me a way on a daily basis. Much nicer than the M5. This is a big deal for me.

MB sport exhaust sound blows away the M5.

The M5 gauge cluster is dated.


Speed and handling are pretty close so these above items are important distinctions.
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I like the M5 looks better, may be because I have had too many MBs and getting numb to the looks. The dash is so much nicer on the M5 compar3d to MBs flat panels. Plus M5 info system is light speed faster than MBs.
i did test drive the M5 F90 and found it super quiet in normal driving, the regular exhaust sound better than I expected. Power delivery is very linear and you can get in trouble quickly. A very well rounded car.

M5 vs E63
M5 comp vs E63S

is what it should be compared as.


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Nice to see Carlos Lago again. He did some good work over at Motortrend and I generally agreed with his takes. No surprise really in the result - both cars are so close that its pretty much down to personal preference. I got to test drive a f90 M5 last month and left very impressed. Despite appearances and the engine, it feels a very different car to the F10 M5. The only two areas I'd say there's a big difference between the two are sound where the AMG sounds so much better and ride comfort where the M5 is much better everywhere. Its astonishing to me that the M5 rides so much better even with the AMG being the one that has air suspension. Its not like the suspension is soft and the car rolls too much - its just a fantastic job by the BMW engineers dialing it in for countries without Germany's perfect tarmac. After driving M3s all my life and also running a 911 GTS as my other car, I don't find the AMG too harsh but its ride is definitely not what many people would expect given the segment. Ironically, I think the upcoming M5 competition is probably going to neutralize the M5 biggest advantage (the ride) for some tighter body control do worse relative the AMG in comparisons.
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lol... bimmer already giving them errors and malfunction warnings
Had a bunch of those on my '18 E63S wagon. Electronic diff failure at 400 miles, and yesterday (at 2000 miles) all the assists temporarily failed, and then "magically" fixed themselves several miles later. There's a reason an extended warranty on these things is $7K... the electronics WILL fail, it's just a question of time. In my case, the dealer noted the issues as "normal" and fixed with a SW update. Very confidence-inspiring.
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Ive always been a big Carlos Lago fan.. a good down to earth reviewer. Motortrend to Edmunds, back to MT and back to Edmunds lol...

I care most about his choice vs the other guy
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Ive always been a big Carlos Lago fan.. a good down to earth reviewer. Motortrend to Edmunds, back to MT and back to Edmunds lol...

I care most about his choice vs the other guy

Or that they used top speed as the winning measurement (I know it was a joke).
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Or that they used top speed as the winning measurement (I know it was a joke).
yea that made no sense.. I think they need to pick up the mantle now that Motortrend lost Carlos and Jason Camissa.. (I like Jonny L and Jethro isnt bad). Motortrend going to ON DEMAND is tough also..

I miss the old Edmunds Inside line videos... this is a step in the right direction
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
yea that made no sense.. I think they need to pick up the mantle now that Motortrend lost Carlos and Jason Camissa.. (I like Jonny L and Jethro isnt bad). Motortrend going to ON DEMAND is tough also..

I miss the old Edmunds Inside line videos... this is a step in the right direction
Carlos and Camissa are cool! The freakinstein is not
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They could do away with the zany hosts and their constant jokes and I'd be fine with that. Just give me some good footage and commentary from Randy Pobst.
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Does the M5 still use the speaker system to artificially enhance the exhaust note? Worst idea ever.
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Does the M5 still use the speaker system to artificially enhance the exhaust note? Worst idea ever.
I agree with you, but According to Car & Driver, so does the W213 E63....
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I agree with you, but According to Car & Driver, so does the W213 E63....
It’s been tested and confirmed that this is not the case.
C&D is wrong on that one and no other mag shared that opinion.
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Carlos and Camissa are cool! The freakinstein is not
Jonny Liberman?

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What color is that on the E63? Imperial Blue?
Lunar Blue

Originally Posted by Fame Douglas
They could do away with the zany hosts and their constant jokes and I'd be fine with that. Just give me some good footage and commentary from Randy Pobst.
Yea.. I dunno.. Jethro on MT is fine.. but can be boring.. Carlos is that balance.. Camissa and Liberman were entertaining ..liked their C43 AMG vs Jaguar XE, Golf R vs Focus RS, Nismo GTR vs AMG GTR .. as long as the info is there, entertainment is good... I am liking the boys on the Straight Pipes on youtube



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