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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FastWgn
Sorry - this is actually not a true statement any more. Turns out wagons is a higher percentage of the 213 than for prior versions (according to my dealer). May be a NorthEast phenomena, not sure.
And it looks like the OP sold car fast at $115k, seems my assumption is correct. For a no wait, super nice and clean car with a few $ks for film/coating, why NOT buy it and save $10-15 over a brand new one? I would.

A few years down - the difference gets bigger. Wagons hold their value much better than sedans, and sell faster.

And to OP - sorry for you - but in the end - "happy wife = happy life!"
And congrats on a great sales process!
I agree with you on all points except for the proposition that wagons sell faster. There are two highly optioned e63s wagons in the SF bay area for sale at small dealers and either has sold for weeks and weeks.

Sedans seem to be moving quicker from my autotrader followings and craigslist checks lol
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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FastWgn
Sorry - this is actually not a true statement any more. Turns out wagons is a higher percentage of the 213 than for prior versions (according to my dealer). May be a NorthEast phenomena, not sure.
And it looks like the OP sold car fast at $115k, seems my assumption is correct. For a no wait, super nice and clean car with a few $ks for film/coating, why NOT buy it and save $10-15 over a brand new one? I would.

A few years down - the difference gets bigger. Wagons hold their value much better than sedans, and sell faster.

And to OP - sorry for you - but in the end - "happy wife = happy life!"
And congrats on a great sales process!
Whats not a true statement? I never said wagons were a lesser percentage on W213's nor does that matter in this scenario. My valuations have nothing to do with the percentage of estates to saloons via the W213--- they are mutually exclusive are based on current conditions and dealer ACV's. Wagon depreciation could very well be flatter down the road but that is not applicable here since his car is only a few months old.

I gave him a dealer trade scenario- I know the OP well and his private sale made all the sense to your points about the extra products that a dealer would not give on an acv in trade.

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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic55
Whats not a true statement?
This one:

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No offense to wagon owners (Ive had a 2012 E63 version) but the used market is not strong
Every data point I saw in my year long search points to the opposite. Nice wagons went fast. Similarity equipped and priced sedans sit longer. partly because they are many more of them and there is a limited number of used car buyers looking for a $50-100k car.
I ended up going last year of the W212 versus first year of the W213 mainly for reliability reasons. I tend to keep cars a bit longer (4-6 years) so that matters (to me).

Anyhow - apologies if I insulted you - that was not my intent.

Originally Posted by Vic55
I gave him a dealer trade scenario- I know the OP well and his private sale made all the sense to your points about the extra products that a dealer would not give on an acv in trade.
I know. Sorry - I think we cross referenced statements wrong - not my intent.

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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 03:36 PM
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lol how can you guys have a disagreement over this when I never said what the car sold for?
All you guys know is what I was asking for it.
Normally I wouldn't say what my stuff sells for but since I did create a value thread for it I guess I ought to.
And I will as soon as the transaction is 100% complete, including what I originally paid and what the trade in offers were ... I just don't think it's appropriate at this juncture.
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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 03:37 PM
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Every data point I saw in my year long search points to the opposite. Nice wagons went fast. Similarity equipped and priced sedans sit longer. partly because they are many more of them and there is a limited number of used car buyers looking for a $50-100k car.
I ended up going last year of the W212 versus first year of the W213 mainly for reliability reasons. I tend to keep cars a bit longer (4-6 years) so that matters (to me).

Anyhow - apologies if I insulted you - that was not my intent.



I know. Sorry - I think we cross referenced statements wrong - not my intent.

You didnt insult me, sorry if I came across that way. I 100% agree with your depreciation curve of the wagons vs sedans too over 2 plus years in the model cycle. I had a 2012 E63 Wagon and lost money on it because I dumped it after 5 months but I just checked Manheim on the 2014 Estates vs Saloons and its clearly a 10k gain for the Estate (averages of course).

Serge will let you know what his car sold for but its not what ebay stated. (as he just posted)
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Old Jul 31, 2018 | 09:20 AM
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Well, that sold fast.

I guess I better start my search for an E1 G63.
Sorry to see you leave the E63 group... for now. You lose out on a great car, and we lose out on your additive posts. Good luck with finalizing that sale... and great choice on the E1 G63.
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