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Old Aug 7, 2018 | 02:20 PM
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The killer on the M5CP is the current 10% drop in residual over M5's in stock. From the sounds of it there really isn't a big difference in performance except that the CP is better on the track and rides a bit more like the E63s (stiffer, less comfortable)...
IMO, AMG GT 4 door only if the price is right or the M8. After seeing the M850i I like the front, dislike the rear... Either way, both cars are out a bit...
Yeah, Vic said the same re: the M5 residual--that kinda sucks but it's expected. The CPs have traditionally come with different springs, a tweaked TCU and additional aero and visual tweaks. Since I dislike lowering cars (with springs), the CP resolves that for me--I'm also influenced massively by transmissions--that was one of my biggest gripes about the RS7; a horrible transmission with horrible Fisher Price paddles (everything else was dreamy). Once tuned, the CP and non-CP are usually equal since most of the CP's additional grunt comes from the same place the tuner's get it--higher boost--but I get them for other reasons.
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Old Aug 7, 2018 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Carac
And I'm going to go out on a limb and say the M8 will likely end up being $20-30k cheaper than an AMG 4-door. Even a optimistic guess says that even the AMG GT53 4-door will be $10-20k more than a base M850i.
You might be right. Even if their respective MSRPs are close or closer, the AMG's lease deals are unlikely to rival BMWs based on past experience. However, if the M5 is representative of the new norm (and not just the result of initial demand) then perhaps we've seen the last of those cheap-BMW-lease days.
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Old Aug 7, 2018 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by limeypride
You might be right. Even if their respective MSRPs are close or closer, the AMG's lease deals are unlikely to rival BMWs based on past experience. However, if the M5 is representative of the new norm (and not just the result of initial demand) then perhaps we've seen the last of those cheap-BMW-lease days.
You never know, BMW thought the i8 was going to sell so well they decided to triple production shortly after launch. But the market for i8's was basically satisfied 4 months after launch so you ended up with 5+ i8's sitting on dealer lots 6 months later. I bought a launch model then flipped it back to the dealer to break even the day the production surge was announced (they hadn't heard about it yet) and before they knew they were going to be sitting on 4 in two months. They had previously been told to expect 1-2 a year, in a large metro area. Later that year some were getting sub-$1000 leases. We'll see if they've learned their lesson or if they're just going to flood the market with as many 8s as they can build. In which case, the M5 would end up being an initial demand fluke.

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Old Aug 7, 2018 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by limeypride
You might be right. Even if their respective MSRPs are close or closer, the AMG's lease deals are unlikely to rival BMWs based on past experience. However, if the M5 is representative of the new norm (and not just the result of initial demand) then perhaps we've seen the last of those cheap-BMW-lease days.
Curious to see how BMW will handle the 8 series. Hard to believe that people will spend $20-30k more than the 6 series.
In regards to leases, BMW is focused on volume and seems fine with taking a hit on their M cars/7 series. It will get offset by SUV margins.
The residual drop is unusual but the M5 launch was funky timing. After all it was only a 4 months or so build cycle for MY18.

Locally, there is a supply of M5’s at a discount while E63’s are barely available.
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Old Aug 7, 2018 | 07:19 PM
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Curious to see how BMW will handle the 8 series. Hard to believe that people will spend $20-30k more than the 6 series.
In regards to leases, BMW is focused on volume and seems fine with taking a hit on their M cars/7 series. It will get offset by SUV margins.
The residual drop is unusual but the M5 launch was funky timing. After all it was only a 4 months or so build cycle for MY18.

Locally, there is a supply of M5’s at a discount while E63’s are barely available.
Good info. Thanks.

Agreed wrt/ BMW's sales model and on the 6er comparison--I guess it'll depend in part just how good it looks in the flesh. The prototype was beautiful.

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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 10:00 AM
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I guess the rationale to take over the lease on a car that has excess mileage and is used is the mods and the lease fee ?
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 01:21 PM
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beautiful car... but, no wagon no care.

good luck with the lease takeover -- i'm sure someone will jump on it!
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 08:46 PM
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I guess the rationale to take over the lease on a car that has excess mileage and is used is the mods and the lease fee ?
Excess is relative to usage, so subjective... but I get your point. Mostly folks take my leases because of low lease rate, some like the mods, too, but not everyone so I remove them in those cases.
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sjb
beautiful car... but, no wagon no care.

good luck with the lease takeover -- i'm sure someone will jump on it!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo… what's wrong with your eyes, man!
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 09:05 PM
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A few folks commented that the remaining mileage was too low so I'm in the process of adding 8,000 more lease-term miles which nets just over 1,000 / month for the remaining lease term.

If you're interested and have a question or a proposal, just PM me... I'm willing to negotiate (to a point ).
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:37 PM
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I've added a $3,000 incentive which brings the monthly lease payment to $1,727.62 before usage tax. The car's MSRP is $126,205 so it's pretty well optioned and has $4,000 in aftermarket "Night Package"-like aesthetic mods. See post #1 for the details and the SwapAlease.com link--here's post #1: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post7522222

Note, I decided to put the money I was planning to use to buy extra lease mileage into an incentive instead--the idea being that some folks don't need more than 800 miles per month but obviously prefer a lower monthly payment. I guess we'll see.
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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 08:00 PM
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2018 AMG E63S for $1470 per month

I'm including a $10,000 cash incentive which brings the monthly lease payment to $1,470.00 before usage tax.
  • MSRP is $126,205
  • $4,000 in aftermarket "Night Package"-like aesthetic mods included
  • 4 x brand new Michelin Pilot SuperSports @265/35/20 and 295/30/20
  • See post #1 for the details and the SwapAlease.com link--here's post #1: https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post7522222
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Old Oct 9, 2018 | 03:14 PM
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Oy. If only I could get out of my Volvo lease (which is well nigh impossible) it'd be getting into "I can swing this" territory for me
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Old Oct 10, 2018 | 01:23 PM
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Don't you already have an E63S?

Have you looked at selling the lease on the Volvo--what model is it
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Old Oct 10, 2018 | 01:42 PM
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Don't you already have an E63S?

Have you looked at selling the lease on the Volvo--what model is it
No, unfortunately the E63 fell through for me because of blahblahblah, and I went with the Volvo, a V90 CC T6, loaded. To give you a sense, the buy out is now around $56-57k (I only "paid" $59k on the lease, on a $70k MSRP), but Carmax type offers are in the low $40k's. I'd have to eat $13-14k to buy it out of the lease and sell it.
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No, unfortunately the E63 fell through for me because of blahblahblah, and I went with the Volvo, a V90 CC T6, loaded. To give you a sense, the buy out is now around $56-57k (I only "paid" $59k on the lease, on a $70k MSRP), but Carmax type offers are in the low $40k's. I'd have to eat $13-14k to buy it out of the lease and sell it.
Ah, got ya... that sucks.

Can you not sell the lease as I am?
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Old Oct 10, 2018 | 03:27 PM
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Ah, got ya... that sucks.

Can you not sell the lease as I am?
Unfortunately not. Volvo’s leasing arm has a strict no transfer policy. It’s a bummer too because it’s a good car at a good lease rate. I just want to love my ride!!

EDIT - to say that if I had a family member or close friend whom I could trust, I could simply give the car to them and have them make the payments. But I have no such people who need a car at the moment.

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FYI: The car is no longer available.
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FYI: The car is no longer available.
Congrats, but sorry to see you go. Report back on how you like the M5!
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