E63S vs M5 Comp Race
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'03 E55, Range Rover Sport Supercharged, Ducati 748R
A moddable (more than just tune/exhaust) midsize sedan that crushes everything in a straight line with comfort and luxury and decent handling. Save the harsh sports car like handling and jerky MCT tranny for the C class or GT. And yes I’ve been told I should be looking at an S class if I wanted those things but they’re just too big for my taste. Actually, I wouldn’t even mind the sports car like handling if the adjustable suspension actually had a real comfort setting.
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2012 P31 C63
10.3 on race gas and intake.
Race gas, intake, MS109. Only gps but they are going to the track to test soon.
https://www.boostaddict.com/content....le-in-10-3-136
https://www.boostaddict.com/content....le-in-10-3-136
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2018 E63S
Race gas, intake, MS109. Only gps but they are going to the track to test soon.
https://www.boostaddict.com/content....le-in-10-3-136
https://www.boostaddict.com/content....le-in-10-3-136
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Race gas, intake, MS109. Only gps but they are going to the track to test soon.
https://www.boostaddict.com/content....le-in-10-3-136
https://www.boostaddict.com/content....le-in-10-3-136
yeah this is the car I posted and linked above --- nice run.
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A moddable (more than just tune/exhaust) midsize sedan that crushes everything in a straight line with comfort and luxury and decent handling. Save the harsh sports car like handling and jerky MCT tranny for the C class or GT. And yes I’ve been told I should be looking at an S class if I wanted those things but they’re just too big for my taste. Actually, I wouldn’t even mind the sports car like handling if the adjustable suspension actually had a real comfort setting.
tune, exhaust, intake, turbos, meth
what else is there that is worth doing?
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And you’re making my point with modding. Compare how other platforms respond to the mods you listed with AMG and you’ll understand.
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2018 W213 E 63 S AMG Sedan
I’m sure the MCT has improved in the W213 but that’s the first and last time MCT and “smooth as butter” will likely ever be used in the same sentence...regardless of what it’s being compared to. The transmission in our GT-R was smoother than our W212 and there can be no excuse for that!
And you’re making my point with modding. Compare how other platforms respond to the mods you listed with AMG and you’ll understand.
or just the engine variables like compression and displacement/size respond better to boost/meth on bmw versus amg?
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I’m sure the MCT has improved in the W213 but that’s the first and last time MCT and “smooth as butter” will likely ever be used in the same sentence...regardless of what it’s being compared to. The transmission in our GT-R was smoother than our W212 and there can be no excuse for that!
And you’re making my point with modding. Compare how other platforms respond to the mods you listed with AMG and you’ll understand.
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'03 E55, Range Rover Sport Supercharged, Ducati 748R
I actually don’t think there’s more on the table with BMW or Audi, just software that’s not as encrypted allowing you more tuning capabilities and the ability to take better advantage of aftermarket hard parts.
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I’m sure the MCT has improved in the W213 but that’s the first and last time MCT and “smooth as butter” will likely ever be used in the same sentence...regardless of what it’s being compared to. The transmission in our GT-R was smoother than our W212 and there can be no excuse for that!
And you’re making my point with modding. Compare how other platforms respond to the mods you listed with AMG and you’ll understand.
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535XIT, E63S
Is bigger always better?
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All this speculation but to my knowledge no one has put a JB4 and a E63s together yet. I am very confident that once Terry adjusts the firmware for E63s boost tables and optimizes everything, the E63s will see significantly faster times than full tunes are providing for E63s currently.
As far as I know though, Terry will need a development car for this to data log and adjust the firmware accordingly. May be you one of you guys can email him if there is any one from here who lives near him in Cali and take the car to him. Terry has a lot of plans for other car models, so unless you guys push him, it won't get done.
As far as I know though, Terry will need a development car for this to data log and adjust the firmware accordingly. May be you one of you guys can email him if there is any one from here who lives near him in Cali and take the car to him. Terry has a lot of plans for other car models, so unless you guys push him, it won't get done.
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E63s
All this speculation but to my knowledge no one has put a JB4 and a E63s together yet. I am very confident that once Terry adjusts the firmware for E63s boost tables and optimizes everything, the E63s will see significantly faster times than full tunes are providing for E63s currently.
As far as I know though, Terry will need a development car for this to data log and adjust the firmware accordingly. May be you one of you guys can email him if there is any one from here who lives near him in Cali and take the car to him. Terry has a lot of plans for other car models, so unless you guys push him, it won't get done.
As far as I know though, Terry will need a development car for this to data log and adjust the firmware accordingly. May be you one of you guys can email him if there is any one from here who lives near him in Cali and take the car to him. Terry has a lot of plans for other car models, so unless you guys push him, it won't get done.
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10.2 pass with JB4 and race gas.. that's IT!!!
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there are no NHRA approved tracks in whole CIS countries. so they should ship their cars to America - makes absolutely no sense. noone really cares about that nhra....but thats a good excuse to american tuners who cant admit that their m5's are much slower...
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2018 W213 E 63 S AMG Sedan
what does the m5 have done to it that it is running 9.8-9.9s?
