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Old 01-03-2019, 03:34 PM
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Hey Vic, can the F90 perform a standing burnout in drift mode? I recall that not being possible with the W213. That’s kind of a big deal for 1/4mile guys like me.
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i did see one running a 10.3 on downpipes. Can you share details on this?

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> The things that are important to me (the things that attracted me to AMG 16 years ago) seem to be missing from the latest MB models

Would you mind elaborating on what those things are to you personally?
A moddable (more than just tune/exhaust) midsize sedan that crushes everything in a straight line with comfort and luxury and decent handling. Save the harsh sports car like handling and jerky MCT tranny for the C class or GT. And yes I’ve been told I should be looking at an S class if I wanted those things but they’re just too big for my taste. Actually, I wouldn’t even mind the sports car like handling if the adjustable suspension actually had a real comfort setting.
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10.3 on race gas and intake.

Race gas, intake, MS109. Only gps but they are going to the track to test soon.

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Old 01-16-2019, 08:59 AM
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Race gas, intake, MS109. Only gps but they are going to the track to test soon.

https://www.boostaddict.com/content....le-in-10-3-136
Insane! Can't wait to see who is gonna take the platform into the 9s first....feels like with some turbos and meth, it'll get there this year. I know several working on it....exciting stuff.


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Race gas, intake, MS109. Only gps but they are going to the track to test soon.

https://www.boostaddict.com/content....le-in-10-3-136

yeah this is the car I posted and linked above --- nice run.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey

A moddable (more than just tune/exhaust) midsize sedan that crushes everything in a straight line with comfort and luxury and decent handling. Save the harsh sports car like handling and jerky MCT tranny for the C class or GT. And yes I’ve been told I should be looking at an S class if I wanted those things but they’re just too big for my taste. Actually, I wouldn’t even mind the sports car like handling if the adjustable suspension actually had a real comfort setting.
The E class MCT is as smooth as butter compared to my M6 DCT and even that wasn’t “terrible”

tune, exhaust, intake, turbos, meth

what else is there that is worth doing?
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The E class MCT is as smooth as butter compared to my M6 DCT and even that wasn’t “terrible”

tune, exhaust, intake, turbos, meth

what else is there that is worth doing?
I’m sure the MCT has improved in the W213 but that’s the first and last time MCT and “smooth as butter” will likely ever be used in the same sentence...regardless of what it’s being compared to. The transmission in our GT-R was smoother than our W212 and there can be no excuse for that!

And you’re making my point with modding. Compare how other platforms respond to the mods you listed with AMG and you’ll understand.
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I’m sure the MCT has improved in the W213 but that’s the first and last time MCT and “smooth as butter” will likely ever be used in the same sentence...regardless of what it’s being compared to. The transmission in our GT-R was smoother than our W212 and there can be no excuse for that!

And you’re making my point with modding. Compare how other platforms respond to the mods you listed with AMG and you’ll understand.
are you saying BMW leaves more on the table tune wise?

or just the engine variables like compression and displacement/size respond better to boost/meth on bmw versus amg?
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Originally Posted by chiromikey


I’m sure the MCT has improved in the W213 but that’s the first and last time MCT and “smooth as butter” will likely ever be used in the same sentence...regardless of what it’s being compared to. The transmission in our GT-R was smoother than our W212 and there can be no excuse for that!

And you’re making my point with modding. Compare how other platforms respond to the mods you listed with AMG and you’ll understand.
Agreed with ur statement about tuning our platform but maybe ur GT-R was 1 off cus the GT-R's transmission is horrible, source: drove both the 2014 & 2016 models.
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are you saying BMW leaves more on the table tune wise?

or just the engine variables like compression and displacement/size respond better to boost/meth on bmw versus amg?
I actually don’t think there’s more on the table with BMW or Audi, just software that’s not as encrypted allowing you more tuning capabilities and the ability to take better advantage of aftermarket hard parts.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey


I’m sure the MCT has improved in the W213 but that’s the first and last time MCT and “smooth as butter” will likely ever be used in the same sentence...regardless of what it’s being compared to. The transmission in our GT-R was smoother than our W212 and there can be no excuse for that!

And you’re making my point with modding. Compare how other platforms respond to the mods you listed with AMG and you’ll understand.
yeah after 6 MCT's I dont care how good the software improvements have helped, its still a herky jerky tranny (sorry that was a bit perverted) at times. But yes the 9 speed is better than my 2010/2012/2013 iterations. The mechanics are static so its been via the TCU adjustments.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey

I actually don’t think there’s more on the table with BMW or Audi, just software that’s not as encrypted allowing you more tuning capabilities and the ability to take better advantage of aftermarket hard parts.
This, and it's trans software, not engine management.
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A good friend of mine went all out with his E63 amg S, his merc is pushing over 800+ HP. Not even done yet which is insane. There is alot you can do now as far as tuning and getting parts for it now.
The stock car is so quick other than racing I don't know what you would do with the extra hp?
Is bigger always better?
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All this speculation but to my knowledge no one has put a JB4 and a E63s together yet. I am very confident that once Terry adjusts the firmware for E63s boost tables and optimizes everything, the E63s will see significantly faster times than full tunes are providing for E63s currently.

As far as I know though, Terry will need a development car for this to data log and adjust the firmware accordingly. May be you one of you guys can email him if there is any one from here who lives near him in Cali and take the car to him. Terry has a lot of plans for other car models, so unless you guys push him, it won't get done.
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All this speculation but to my knowledge no one has put a JB4 and a E63s together yet. I am very confident that once Terry adjusts the firmware for E63s boost tables and optimizes everything, the E63s will see significantly faster times than full tunes are providing for E63s currently.

As far as I know though, Terry will need a development car for this to data log and adjust the firmware accordingly. May be you one of you guys can email him if there is any one from here who lives near him in Cali and take the car to him. Terry has a lot of plans for other car models, so unless you guys push him, it won't get done.
Someone has already installed the jb4 on E63s and it’s being tested. The results will coming soon
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Someone has already installed the jb4 on E63s and it’s being tested. The results will coming soon
Awesome!
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10.2 pass with JB4 and race gas.. that's IT!!!

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And a slower trap than what I posted a while back.
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And a slower trap than what I posted a while back.
In the article, they mentioned a Russian team with an M5 that ran 9s but it wasn't an approved track, not sure if that is the one you are talking about or not.
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there are no NHRA approved tracks in whole CIS countries. so they should ship their cars to America - makes absolutely no sense. noone really cares about that nhra....but thats a good excuse to american tuners who cant admit that their m5's are much slower...
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there are no NHRA approved tracks in whole CIS countries. so they should ship their cars to America - makes absolutely no sense. noone really cares about that nhra....but thats a good excuse to american tuners who cant admit that their m5's are much slower...
what’s the forum consensus on the accuracy of dragys?

what does the m5 have done to it that it is running 9.8-9.9s?


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