What's your best dragy time?
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What's your best dragy time?
My best 60-130mph (stock, 93) is 9.13s (not that great)
My best 62-124mph (which I think is basically 100-200kmh converted properly) is 7.86s (also not that great)
What are you guys pulling?
My best 62-124mph (which I think is basically 100-200kmh converted properly) is 7.86s (also not that great)
What are you guys pulling?
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On the dragy leaderboard for 2017+ E63s models I see:
60-130mph
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7.71s MSL performance edition 1
7.95s "stock" Media636 (probably not stock)
8.01s "stock" Umar063 out of Russia (probably not stock)
8.16s Morendi Stage 1
8.34s Eurocharged tune + Downpipes + 94 octane
8.46s stock Crew63 out of russia
8.46s Labworx tune + Perriworks downpipes
8.82s "Rennteam" stock out of Germany
8.87s stock Shaman out of Russia
60-130mph
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7.71s MSL performance edition 1
7.95s "stock" Media636 (probably not stock)
8.01s "stock" Umar063 out of Russia (probably not stock)
8.16s Morendi Stage 1
8.34s Eurocharged tune + Downpipes + 94 octane
8.46s stock Crew63 out of russia
8.46s Labworx tune + Perriworks downpipes
8.82s "Rennteam" stock out of Germany
8.87s stock Shaman out of Russia
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The 8.34s 60-130 time is mine. The best 1/4 mile time I’ve done on Dragy is 10.89 @127.15. I would have been ecstatic with 10.6’s but keep in mind that my runs are done at elevated DA.
FYI, my best 62-124mph is 7.13s.
FYI, my best 62-124mph is 7.13s.
Last edited by Nav; 01-02-2019 at 12:47 PM.
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Hi Vic,
Eurocharged tune and UPD downpipes. I know it’s not as quick as published tuned F90 M5 times but the car does sound amazing though. I’m hoping that an updated tune or TCU map may help at some point. Not a big deal if there isn’t. She’s my daily driver and my slowest car anyway.
Eurocharged tune and UPD downpipes. I know it’s not as quick as published tuned F90 M5 times but the car does sound amazing though. I’m hoping that an updated tune or TCU map may help at some point. Not a big deal if there isn’t. She’s my daily driver and my slowest car anyway.
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Hi Vic,
Eurocharged tune and UPD downpipes. I know it’s not as quick as published tuned F90 M5 times but the car does sound amazing though. I’m hoping that an updated tune or TCU map may help at some point. Not a big deal if there isn’t. She’s my daily driver and my slowest car anyway.
Eurocharged tune and UPD downpipes. I know it’s not as quick as published tuned F90 M5 times but the car does sound amazing though. I’m hoping that an updated tune or TCU map may help at some point. Not a big deal if there isn’t. She’s my daily driver and my slowest car anyway.
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Hi Vic,
Eurocharged tune and UPD downpipes. I know it’s not as quick as published tuned F90 M5 times but the car does sound amazing though. I’m hoping that an updated tune or TCU map may help at some point. Not a big deal if there isn’t. She’s my daily driver and my slowest car anyway.
Eurocharged tune and UPD downpipes. I know it’s not as quick as published tuned F90 M5 times but the car does sound amazing though. I’m hoping that an updated tune or TCU map may help at some point. Not a big deal if there isn’t. She’s my daily driver and my slowest car anyway.
What’s the trick to a good 100-200/60-130? What gear/rev range is best?
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What other cars do you have?
What’s the trick to a good 100-200/60-130? What gear/rev range is best?
There really isn’t any trick to obtaining good 100-200/60-130 times. The car is either running in great ambient conditions or is not. Some cars are slightly stronger than others but that’s much less of a factor these days since most high performance high end luxury cars are strapped to a dyno to check to see if they are within a small range before leaving the factory. To achieve 100-200/60-130 times, most are getting a run up to it starting well before you’ve reached those starting speeds. You can test using auto mode or shifting yourself. Most of mine were measured as an additional parameter while testing my 1/4 mile time. I would deliberately drive above 130 mph to get a 60-130. Getting a great 1/4 mile time is the tricky part. You need to optimize traction and possibly shift yourself for ideal times. My best 1/4 time was me shifting myself around 6200-6300 rpm.
My other cars are a ESS supercharged Huracan which runs 9’s at over 143 mph. My 2016 Mustang GT is in the process of getting Twin Turbos good to 1200hp but we’ll start at about 900hp. Technically my slowest car is an ‘88 Mustang 5.0 but it’s not running and needs full restoration so it doesn’t really count.
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Hi MuffinFlavored,
There really isn’t any trick to obtaining good 100-200/60-130 times. The car is either running in great ambient conditions or is not. Some cars are slightly stronger than others but that’s much less of a factor these days since most high performance high end luxury cars are strapped to a dyno to check to see if they are within a small range before leaving the factory. To achieve 100-200/60-130 times, most are getting a run up to it starting well before you’ve reached those starting speeds. You can test using auto mode or shifting yourself. Most of mine were measured as an additional parameter while testing my 1/4 mile time. I would deliberately drive above 130 mph to get a 60-130. Getting a great 1/4 mile time is the tricky part. You need to optimize traction and possibly shift yourself for ideal times. My best 1/4 time was me shifting myself around 6200-6300 rpm.
My other cars are a ESS supercharged Huracan which runs 9’s at over 143 mph. My 2016 Mustang GT is in the process of getting Twin Turbos good to 1200hp but we’ll start at about 900hp. Technically my slowest car is an ‘88 Mustang 5.0 but it’s not running and needs full restoration so it doesn’t really count.
You're from Canada and you're name is Nav. Are you the rapper? :P
> ESS supercharged Huracan
How is that? Any complaints?
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The supercharged Huracan is everything I wanted it to be. I wanted to keep the responsiveness and the sound as well as hitting 9’s on the 1/4 mile. I achieved that goal. I know ultimately that TT’s would have been quicker but at the degradation of my driving experience. The positive twin screw Whipple supercharger unit makes the car ultra responsive now. Absolutely love it!
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Hahaha! No... I could only wish I was a rapper! I am from Canada and used Nav as a username way back in 2001 when I joined this website although it’s shortened from my name Navi. I’m a physician.
The supercharged Huracan is everything I wanted it to be. I wanted to keep the responsiveness and the sound as well as hitting 9’s on the 1/4 mile. I achieved that goal. I know ultimately that TT’s would have been quicker but at the degradation of my driving experience. The positive twin screw Whipple supercharger unit makes the car ultra responsive now. Absolutely love it!
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Exactly. Installing turbos including twins are always going to have some degraded response. I still notice it with the very efficient twin scroll TT’s in our E63S which is further enhanced from stock with a tune compared to my Huracan. The toe in response of my Huracan is instantaneous. No delay. No lag. It jumps when you want it to jump with very little input using Sport or Corsa/Race mode. In Strada/Comfort mode it’s still very docile but still responsive. I dislike the response of our E63’s from a dead stop in comfort mode further hampered when using start/stop. I created an individualized mode which I use a portion of my driving time. To and from work, I leave it in comfort using start/stop.
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Exactly. Installing turbos including twins are always going to have some degraded response. I still notice it with the very efficient twin scroll TT’s in our E63S which is further enhanced from stock with a tune compared to my Huracan. The toe in response of my Huracan is instantaneous. No delay. No lag. It jumps when you want it to jump with very little input using Sport or Corsa/Race mode. In Strada/Comfort mode it’s still very docile but still responsive. I dislike the response of our E63’s from a dead stop in comfort mode further hampered when using start/stop. I created an individualized mode which I use a portion of my driving time. To and from work, I leave it in comfort using start/stop.
I will admit the E63S does feel like it has turbo lag compared to my M6, but I'm also not sure what portion of that is just the E63s being more effective down low + actually gripping.
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If you don't mind me asking, what was your purchase story on your Huracan like? Meaning... did you buy it new, did you buy it used? Did you pay cash? If not, how much did you put down and how long did you finance for? I've been toying with the idea of one but I'm just not sure how far out of my bracket it is expense wise. I'd imagine your supercharger setup was another $20k+ installed? What does it push to the wheels?
I will admit the E63S does feel like it has turbo lag compared to my M6, but I'm also not sure what portion of that is just the E63s being more effective down low + actually gripping.
I will admit the E63S does feel like it has turbo lag compared to my M6, but I'm also not sure what portion of that is just the E63s being more effective down low + actually gripping.
The best way to explain the difference between the Huracan and the E63S is input to output between depressing the pedal and the car responding. If I tap the accelerator on the Huracan, I would crudely estimate that it’s a 1.0:1.2 ratio. It was 1.0:1.0 ratio when naturally aspirated. The E63S is like 1.0:0.7. Hope that makes sense!
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I did a factory order back in 2014. Received it early 2015. I initially leased it because I was certain I would trade it in for the Performante when it was scheduled to be released. 2 years in I supercharged it. The Performante is great but not enough for me to trade for it. The lease was set up well that the residual was low and would be advantageous if I gave it back since they noted that they would credit the difference between actual worth and the residual towards a new car which they pegged at about $75,000 cad based on prior Gallardo lesses. At the end of the lease, I purchased the car outright. The car was actually worth at least 90 to 100k cad more than my residual not including the supercharger. The supercharger was around 26k usd although I got a bit of a break since I was the first ESS supercharged Huracan. My mechanic charged me a little over $8000 cad to install it. With the gen2 unit it dynoed at 650 awhp. With the new gen3 unit it’s expected to be 700 awhp. I also have Meth injection installed for cooling only but haven’t tested it on Dragy in the 1/4 mile.
The best way to explain the difference between the Huracan and the E63S is input to output between depressing the pedal and the car responding. If I tap the accelerator on the Huracan, I would crudely estimate that it’s a 1.0:1.2 ratio. It was 1.0:1.0 ratio when naturally aspirated. The E63S is like 1.0:0.7. Hope that makes sense!
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Help me understand one thing.
Traditionally, on cars like a BMW M6, when you lease for 36 months, you are upside down typically $20k at the end of the lease (aka the negotiated residual value at the end of the lease is declared upfront to be somewhere around $70k). At the end, the market value is more around $50k, aka big problem.
You are saying that you leased a Huracan and it was worth *more* than the residual? Was that expected? Would you bet that happens again on your next Lamborghini lease, hypothetically?
I'd be curious to hear lease terms/milage. Was overmilage never a factor because you knew the alloted lease milage didn't matter since you planned on just buying it at the end of the lease?
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I appreciate this information more than you know. It is a real pleasure to be able to speak to somebody so knowledgeable and open.
Help me understand one thing.
Traditionally, on cars like a BMW M6, when you lease for 36 months, you are upside down typically $20k at the end of the lease (aka the negotiated residual value at the end of the lease is declared upfront to be somewhere around $70k). At the end, the market value is more around $50k, aka big problem.
You are saying that you leased a Huracan and it was worth *more* than the residual? Was that expected? Would you bet that happens again on your next Lamborghini lease, hypothetically?
I'd be curious to hear lease terms/milage. Was overmilage never a factor because you knew the alloted lease milage didn't matter since you planned on just buying it at the end of the lease?
Help me understand one thing.
Traditionally, on cars like a BMW M6, when you lease for 36 months, you are upside down typically $20k at the end of the lease (aka the negotiated residual value at the end of the lease is declared upfront to be somewhere around $70k). At the end, the market value is more around $50k, aka big problem.
You are saying that you leased a Huracan and it was worth *more* than the residual? Was that expected? Would you bet that happens again on your next Lamborghini lease, hypothetically?
I'd be curious to hear lease terms/milage. Was overmilage never a factor because you knew the alloted lease milage didn't matter since you planned on just buying it at the end of the lease?
lease term was still worth about $260,000+ without the supercharger based on similar cars available for sale across the country. My mileage/km was approximately 11,500 km at term. It’s now above 16,000 km and I still see 2015 cars with similar km in the $250,000 - $260,000+ range. They made money on it but it was still a good option for me at the time. As I noted, they would have given me market value back on the car based on purchase of a new one.
The situation seems different in Canada vs US. Our exotics tend to keep their value longer.
Last edited by Nav; 01-04-2019 at 02:37 AM.