Stage 1 ECU Tune Draggy Times
02-06-2019, 11:55 AM
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2020 Audi R8 V10, 2016 AMG GTS, 2018 E63S Edition 1, 2018 Porsche GTS Cab, 2012 C63 BS
Great numbers but I think we all are shocked that those numbers are from a tune ALONE.
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BRABUS786 (02-06-2019)
02-06-2019, 12:02 PM
#54
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Right
Anyone in the world is welcome to come to the UK to see and inspect the car to see what mods are on the car and I will let them drive the car and you can bring your own dragy and test the car.
Making a video is going to be pointless as you will not be able to see the turbos or what fuel is being used.
Please send me a DM or you can visit me at the following address :
MSL Performance UK
Armoury Road
Small Heath
B11 2PP
I will also collect anyone from the Airport. Videos can lie but seeing is believing
I am not on this forum to sell anything but just to show what I have been learning about my car. This map has taken over 3 months of testing and development.
I have had the down pipes for over 4 months and I still have not fitted them.
But I still have to say I Prefer my C63 BS stage 3 over this E63s ED1 and the reason being is RAW POWER!.
I will still Keep updating this Thread BUT if no one believes me I don't really care !!!!
Next Stage is Race Fuel 109 and Stage 1 and let see what are the results.............
Anyone in the world is welcome to come to the UK to see and inspect the car to see what mods are on the car and I will let them drive the car and you can bring your own dragy and test the car.
Making a video is going to be pointless as you will not be able to see the turbos or what fuel is being used.
Please send me a DM or you can visit me at the following address :
MSL Performance UK
Armoury Road
Small Heath
B11 2PP
I will also collect anyone from the Airport. Videos can lie but seeing is believing
I am not on this forum to sell anything but just to show what I have been learning about my car. This map has taken over 3 months of testing and development.
I have had the down pipes for over 4 months and I still have not fitted them.
But I still have to say I Prefer my C63 BS stage 3 over this E63s ED1 and the reason being is RAW POWER!.
I will still Keep updating this Thread BUT if no one believes me I don't really care !!!!
Next Stage is Race Fuel 109 and Stage 1 and let see what are the results.............
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tonecas (02-07-2019)
02-06-2019, 12:04 PM
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02-06-2019, 12:06 PM
#56
I’ve not used MSL yet but I know the MSL guys have a fantastic record in the UK by the way, you just have to go to various car forums in the UK and see how well the guys are respected.
02-06-2019, 12:07 PM
#57
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if this is even remotely close to true, they have my respect too. just wanna reiterate: faster than a huracan performante with just a tune?
02-06-2019, 12:15 PM
#58
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If you want to inspect the car and drive it and test it , I may even cover your accommodation. Thanks Acid
02-06-2019, 12:18 PM
#59
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I have never claimed anything Just showing my findings. I cant wait to fit turbos as I spoken to Charlie @ Pure Turbos about 2 months ago. Im sure I have seen a car with bigger turbos running about 768ish whp ?
If you want to inspect the car and drive it and test it , I may even cover your accommodation. Thanks Acid
If you want to inspect the car and drive it and test it , I may even cover your accommodation. Thanks Acid
How much have you paid out of pocket for all of this dyno time + tune? $7k? $10k?
02-06-2019, 12:28 PM
#60
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and thats because no one bothered to move TQ limiter a bit higher.But honestly speaking, when he started developing the map, I was expecting better numbers from 100-200kmh (5.9-6.0 stable). Maybe waiting for better weather conditions will help.
Very curious what you guys will say when he gets to st3? Rocket engine?
Last edited by dav461; 02-06-2019 at 12:44 PM.
02-06-2019, 02:13 PM
#61
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The Dyno is my own and time spent as I own the car I am pushing it to the max I can before moving on to further mods. Not had problems yet but its all a new platform so still learning If it blows then I will learn the limits lol
02-06-2019, 03:28 PM
#62
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690whp in RWD mode, right?
800hp at crank probably, right?
02-06-2019, 03:35 PM
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02-06-2019, 07:57 PM
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So you had somebody from MSI come to your house where you have your own dyno and you did 14+ pulls and they looked at the logs and made an amazing tune?
02-06-2019, 08:02 PM
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02-06-2019, 09:14 PM
#66
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He appears to be MSL. Thus, his asking you to contact him at MSL.
02-06-2019, 09:15 PM
#67
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ah so this forum is the home of shady marketing tactics like posting fake dragy pictures and lying about how fast a tune can make a car in order to get business
neat!!!
sounds like an awesome way to earn customers for life lol
stage 3 jet engine though
neat!!!
sounds like an awesome way to earn customers for life lol
stage 3 jet engine though
02-06-2019, 09:19 PM
#68
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So he owns the dyno and he bought a car for development.
also, he is not here to sell anything ( if you read once more) He is sharing his figures from what he got so far
Last edited by dav461; 02-06-2019 at 09:21 PM.
02-06-2019, 09:59 PM
#69
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however
say i want to buy this tune, how can i do this? what’s the price? $3.5k?
02-07-2019, 06:23 AM
#71
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Believe me or not I don't care nor am I here to sell anything just to show my findings as this is a forum. If you cant accept my results then I suggest you don't comment on this thread !
If any Moderators have any issues or think this is a "shady marketing tactics" then I will be happy for you to delete my Thread.
02-07-2019, 07:43 AM
#72
Wow, don’t you love the internet!
My two pence worth!
This forum generally has complained about a lack of tunes and ability to get more out of this engine.
A guy comes along and shares his experience with no sales agenda and gets a bunch of sh*t!
Talk about how to discourage others from even bothering!
As I say, I’m going to use MSL in March time if I can get others help to be able to provide the right evidence (I’ve never used a draggy box etc) then I’ll happily put the results up then.
My two pence worth!
This forum generally has complained about a lack of tunes and ability to get more out of this engine.
A guy comes along and shares his experience with no sales agenda and gets a bunch of sh*t!
Talk about how to discourage others from even bothering!
As I say, I’m going to use MSL in March time if I can get others help to be able to provide the right evidence (I’ve never used a draggy box etc) then I’ll happily put the results up then.
02-07-2019, 09:21 AM
#73
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Wow, don’t you love the internet!
My two pence worth!
This forum generally has complained about a lack of tunes and ability to get more out of this engine.
A guy comes along and shares his experience with no sales agenda and gets a bunch of sh*t!
Talk about how to discourage others from even bothering!
As I say, I’m going to use MSL in March time if I can get others help to be able to provide the right evidence (I’ve never used a draggy box etc) then I’ll happily put the results up then.
My two pence worth!
This forum generally has complained about a lack of tunes and ability to get more out of this engine.
A guy comes along and shares his experience with no sales agenda and gets a bunch of sh*t!
Talk about how to discourage others from even bothering!
As I say, I’m going to use MSL in March time if I can get others help to be able to provide the right evidence (I’ve never used a draggy box etc) then I’ll happily put the results up then.
Compare this to other cars.
How much faster is this than the new M5?
02-07-2019, 09:44 AM
#74
Super Member
there is a big potential of this engine, all depends on r&d time that people willing to spend on car. He made it by hard work, I doubt others own car for development. Taking customers car to develop tune is a high risk of blowing it. That’s why they don’t push it higher than safe(what they think) limit
His E63 is not faster than tuned m5.
Last edited by dav461; 02-07-2019 at 09:47 AM.
02-07-2019, 09:49 AM
#75
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He is not lying. Before saying such loud words give a proof. He said anyone is welcome to come , inspect and measure it. I know him, I know his work, he did my 212 st3, and even took a flight to russia to correct ecu map( you can find it on his ig page). It’s not a tuner that posted results on prepared drag strip and trying to sell his tune like other (won’t say the name)
His E63 is not faster than tuned m5.
I will instead use the information I have available to me and the community:
On the dragy leaderboard for 2017+ E63s models I see:
60-130mph
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7.71s MSL performance edition 1
7.95s "stock" Media636 (probably not stock)
8.01s "stock" Umar063 out of Russia (probably not stock)
8.16s Morendi Stage 1
8.34s Eurocharged tune + Downpipes + 94 octane
8.46s stock Crew63 out of russia
8.46s Labworx tune + Perriworks downpipes
8.82s "Rennteam" stock out of Germany
8.87s stock Shaman out of Russia
100-200kmh
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6.03s - MSL
6.13s - MSL
6.72s - Morendi stage 1 tune
6.97s - Umar064 (?)
6.79s - Media636 (?)
7.17s -Racerlambo ( Eurocharged + downpipes + 94 octane)
7.27s - Rmontuori25 (Labworx tune + Downpipes)
7.32s - Crew63 (stock)
7.32s - Jan Nel (stock)
7.72s - Jkob5 (stock)
100-200 (other cars)
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ChadL - 2015 CLS63 S with Eurocharged tune + downpipes + Pure Turbos + cooling kit (767whp): 6.04s
GTSDon - 2017 AMG GTS on 100 octane fuel with downpipes - 6.07s
Last edited by MuffinFlavored; 02-07-2019 at 10:11 AM.
