GAD Motors E63 runs 10.1 - Page 4

Oct 13, 2019 | 02:03 AM

#76

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Originally Posted by e65

On dragy leaderboard, there is a 2014 E63 that posted 4.85. It made 1025hp on superflow dyno.

Thats your car. Vety fast sedan

I think the 9 speed gearbox and the higher rev engine will reach that faster then the M157.

Oct 13, 2019 | 05:42 AM

#77

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

do you think we will see e63s 4.7-4.8 100-200?

e63s.muc, given the weight of e63s, how much hp is needed for that kind of time? 1000?

I think it is possible

Oct 13, 2019 | 12:32 PM

#78

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Originally Posted by MrkiC63

Thats your car. Vety fast sedan

I think the 9 speed gearbox and the higher rev engine will reach that faster then the M157.

what are the limits now?

Oct 14, 2019 | 01:34 AM

#79

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

what are the limits now?

The sky is the limit.

Oct 18, 2019 | 05:57 AM

#80

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Ive sent them an email for stage 2 tune
theyre asking almost $6500 with the cpc tune

still think this is crazy for only tuning!!

Oct 19, 2019 | 01:23 PM

#81

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Ive sent them an email for stage 2 tune
theyre asking almost $6500 with the cpc tune

still think this is crazy for only tuning!!

No its 5600. So the price is real for alomst 200hp more. 780hp
https://www.gad-motors.de/e63w213

Oct 19, 2019 | 01:25 PM

#82

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No its 5600. So the price is real for alomst 200hp more. 780hp
https://www.gad-motors.de/e63w213

from *just* tune and cpc? no other supporting mods?

Oct 19, 2019 | 01:31 PM

#83

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Originally Posted by dbasons55

The same E63 races a Ferrari 812 Superfast

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3fvti8p...d=8n87x1gdnjpr

Obviously love the 63 leaving the 812 but dont you think the 812 was shifting premature didn't see any limiter lights light up for gear change

still think the 63 would have one though!!

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Oct 19, 2019 | 01:33 PM

#84

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

from *just* tune and cpc? no other supporting mods?

Yes sure

Oct 19, 2019 | 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nw66

Obviously love the 63 leaving the 812 but dont you think the 812 was shifting premature didn't see any limiter lights light up for gear change

still think the 63 would have one though!!

I think dragtimes show the truth. And thats the real difference in dbasons55 video.

Oct 19, 2019 | 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nw66

Obviously love the 63 leaving the 812 but dont you think the 812 was shifting premature didn't see any limiter lights light up for gear change

still think the 63 would have one though!!

one of us could do the math for “horsepower to weight” ratio

doesn’t tell the whole story but puts some science/math to the “mystery” of “how fast is XYZ with tune, etc.”

Oct 19, 2019 | 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

one of us could do the math for “horsepower to weight” ratio

doesn’t tell the whole story but puts some science/math to the “mystery” of “how fast is XYZ with tune, etc.”

Its the less engine power. Found here a vid from FOG. 812 Superfast have only 746hp and not 800. Thats the truth.

Oct 19, 2019 | 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

from *just* tune and cpc? no other supporting mods?

It’s never been hard to get hp out of the biturbo E63s. The problem has always been about getting the ECU/TCU to deliver it to the ground in the first 3 gears.

Oct 20, 2019 | 12:16 AM

#89

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It’s never been hard to get hp out of the biturbo E63s. The problem has always been about getting the ECU/TCU to deliver it to the ground in the first 3 gears.

i really only care about 60-130mph and as you and i have seen, before this cpc mods, turbos weren’t doing much

i wonder if cpc/torque limiter was affecting 4th-5th gear tuned too?

Oct 20, 2019 | 04:33 AM

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i really only care about 60-130mph and as you and i have seen, before this cpc mods, turbos weren’t doing much

Because of components protection from CPC. But it need to be in harmony with ecu and t u. You cant flash only the CPC and mean it works.

Whats the second fast E63 after dbasons55?

Oct 20, 2019 | 07:01 AM

#91

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Originally Posted by MrkiC63

You cant flash only the CPC and mean it works.

practice shows that apparently only cpc unit replacement improved 100-200 times and 1/4 on gt63

Last edited by dav461; Oct 20, 2019 at 07:13 AM.

Oct 20, 2019 | 07:56 AM

#92

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First two with cpc , others stock

practice shows that apparently only cpc unit replacement improved 100-200 times and 1/4 on gt63

you have your cpc done? did they remove it or flash it over OBD?

Oct 20, 2019 | 08:06 AM

#93

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

you have your cpc done? did they remove it or flash it over OBD?

that's my friend gt63s, cpc unit has been replaced.

Oct 21, 2019 | 10:11 PM

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Sorry for the stupid question guys what is CPC? We are talking about a TCU tune ?

Oct 21, 2019 | 10:15 PM

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Sorry for the stupid question guys what is CPC? We are talking about a TCU tune ?

“torque limit and increased cooling” or some jazz

Oct 21, 2019 | 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

“torque limit and increased cooling” or some jazz

Hmm what module gets tuned?

Oct 21, 2019 | 11:40 PM

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Hmm what module gets tuned?

the CPC, lol

Oct 22, 2019 | 12:39 AM

#98

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

the CPC, lol

I see now Center Powertrain Controller.. now I know what united it is. I wonder what gets changed in it or how it gets flashed must be with Xentery maybe Devp mode.

Oct 22, 2019 | 01:04 AM

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Sorry for the stupid question guys what is CPC? We are talking about a TCU tune ?

CPC is Central Powertrain Controller. His job is component protection. If the CPC read to much power he can take control of ECU and send data to lower the boost. So its a protection unit to make it more difficult to tune it.