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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
To compare it now.
Your 8.7 60-130mph is a 7.7 100-200kmh

GAD stage 1 ecu and cpc run a 7.0 60-130mph and 6.0 100-200kmh

1.7 seconds is a night and day difference.
My friends E63 Station Wagon run stock a 9.0 60-130mph and 8.0 100-200kmh.

So your ECU tune is not worth it buddy. Flash back to stock and dragy it again to see your difference.
this actually matches my data perfectly. 9.0s stock and about 8.7s tuned 60-130mph is what most people get with a stage 1 tune on these cars.

what is interesting is, an F90 M5 with just boltons does 6.0s 60-130mph

after GAD CPC + ECU tune, what else can you really do? you are kind of stuck at 7.0s, no?
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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
this actually matches my data perfectly. 9.0s stock and about 8.7s tuned 60-130mph is what most people get with a stage 1 tune on these cars.

what is interesting is, an F90 M5 with just boltons does 6.0s 60-130mph

after GAD CPC + ECU tune, what else can you really do? you are kind of stuck at 7.0s, no?
Stage 1 M5 F90 does 5.7-5.8 100-200 on pump gas. With race fuel 5.2-5.3 but the internals dont hold the power. Cast iron pistons and verry weak rods. I heard and see lot of damaged engines. One friend of me blow his M5 F90 4 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
after GAD CPC + ECU tune, what else can you really do? you are kind of stuck at 7.0s, no?
My friends Stage 1 E63s Stationwagon runs a 6.0 100-200 on shell vpower. So its not far away from a M5 F90. But the difference ist you have much better internals in a AMG.
Saw lot M177 running 900hp without any issue.
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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
Stage 1 M5 F90 does 5.7-5.8 100-200 on pump gas. With race fuel 5.2-5.3 but the internals dont hold the power. Cast iron pistons and verry weak rods. I heard and see lot of damaged engines. One friend of me blow his M5 F90 4 weeks ago.



My friends Stage 1 E63s Stationwagon runs a 6.0 100-200 on shell vpower. So its not far away from a M5 F90. But the difference ist you have much better internals in a AMG.
Saw lot M177 running 900hp without any issue.
is that stage 1 ecu only? maybe the real takeaway from this thread should be that, DME tuning + Oe tuning have **** stage 1 ECU tune offerings for these cars and only GAD tunes see real improvement
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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
is that stage 1 ecu only? maybe the real takeaway from this thread should be that, DME tuning + Oe tuning have **** stage 1 ECU tune offerings for these cars and only GAD tunes see real improvement
Stage 1 is ECU and CPC at GAD
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Old Mar 8, 2020 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
Stage 1 is ECU and CPC at GAD
any stage 2 (downpipes + air filters) results?
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
any stage 2 (downpipes + air filters) results?

About 40hp cranck more. So a 5.7-5.8 like M5 F90 is possible.
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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 03:31 AM
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Lets see a 2019 G63 with Stage 1 from GAD
ECU + CPC

7.82 100-200kmh

Muffin that G63 is as fast as your E63 with ECU tune



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Old Mar 9, 2020 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
this actually matches my data perfectly. 9.0s stock and about 8.7s tuned 60-130mph is what most people get with a stage 1 tune on these cars.

what is interesting is, an F90 M5 with just boltons does 6.0s 60-130mph

after GAD CPC + ECU tune, what else can you really do? you are kind of stuck at 7.0s, no?
I wonder what a GAD tuned with full bolt-ons E63 will run? I am guessing that will be a much closer Apples to apple comparison than a tune only E63 vs bolt-on and tuned M5

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Old Mar 10, 2020 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kponti
I wonder what a GAD tuned with full bolt-ons E63 will run? I am guessing that will be a much closer Apples to apple comparison than a tune only vs bolt-on and tuned M5
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ml#post8002922

is this your answer?

my friend got cpcng damos. we see 750nm stock torque limit and ability to code vmax/torque limits off

gad/edok flash a custom seed/key or something to lock device
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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ronin amg
All this GAD crap is just that it seems...

Sock 2018 E63s 1/4mi. 11.1sec 126 mph.

With just a ECU tune.. but I'm old

https://youtu.be/d4hVq81hzdQ


ronin my friend

I will have updates for you with 1/4 mile times
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 09:10 AM
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We have updates

1. Stock hardware 10.36 with ECU + CPC + TCU
2. Incrase Lauch Control to 5000rpm
3. 100-200 6.0
4. 0-100 2.85






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10.36s @ 134.8mph with or without downpipes?

is there room for more with hybrid turbo upgrade too?

ronin, do you believe CPC makes a difference yet? looks like car with CPC traps 8mph higher

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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
10.36s @ 134.8mph with or without downpipes?

is there room for more with hybrid turbo upgrade too?

ronin, do you believe CPC makes a difference yet? looks like car with CPC traps 8mph higher
Bro, stock hardware.
The potential is big ...
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Old Apr 10, 2020 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
Bro, stock hardware.
bro, you have the attitude of a catty woman
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Would be interesting to see some runs in the other direction up hill.
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Would be interesting to see some runs in the other direction up hill.
You can correct the time with the App "Zeitenjagd"
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
You can correct the time with the App "Zeitenjagd"
Or, you could do it for us and post corrected results.

I could say that I run faster than Usain Bolt. While this is undoubtedly true in free fall, correcting for slope to account for level ground my performance will be far less remarkable.
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Originally Posted by E634Me
Or, you could do it for us and post corrected results.

I could say that I run faster than Usain Bolt. While this is undoubtedly true in free fall, correcting for slope to account for level ground my performance will be far less remarkable.
Lol
You waisting my time.

Where is old men ronin?
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So doing a 100-200 from 3rd gear.


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So doing a 100-200 from 3rd gear.

very impressive. a car by your friend?

what part of 3rd gear? bottom of 3rd or around 4k rpm start? i will do a pull to show how much slower mine is
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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored
very impressive. a car by your friend?

what part of 3rd gear? bottom of 3rd or around 4k rpm start? i will do a pull to show how much slower mine is
Shop car.
Its done all ECU, CPC, TCU

Car is 100% stock hardware. No dp, nothing.
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Wow, that's impressive.

Where ya at, ronin??
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Very, very impressive. That's simply moving for a stock hardware car, and then some!
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Originally Posted by MrkiC63
Shop car.
Its done all ECU, CPC, TCU

Car is 100% stock hardware. No dp, nothing.
very impressive, much respect

do you think you can shave another 0.2s with downpipes? then another 0.4s with turbos? can you get to 5.0-5.1s 100-200km/h with some bolt on hardware upgrades, no meth?

at what power do you re-enforce the tranny? will it break at 800-900nm? 1000nm?

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Looks like there is no extra power being added (at least measurable by dyno). All that's happening is the Dyno numbers being allowed to be put down in all gears
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