SFT

Ordered car. Waiting on build date.

wdimagineer

No dates yet. Production is scheduled to begin in November.

Quackledork

I ordered a few weeks ago. Asked the dealer on Friday. He did not have a build date yet.

MuffinFlavored

did you pay MSRP or slightly under? if so, how much under + how much deposit?

Sixpaqs

Mine was very frustrating. Ordered in April 2019, for European Delivery in early October. Car was built in September, but they would let me pick it up as the 2020’s weren’t released yet. I ended up being given a ED loaner (E63s sedan, mine was a wagon) after having to raise hell to not get the Maybach they thought I wanted to drive throughout Germany and Switzerland. I got my car at the dealer in mid December 2019, with no miles in it. Wasn’t a bad deal at the end of the day, but found MBNA to be super cryptic and difficult to order from. Double check your build once it is confirmed. That was a whole other headache.

Quackledork

You don’t negotiate the price until the car arrives. My dealer asked for $5k deposit, but waived it once the order was in.

AMG RB

Maybe I should talk to your dealer. Seems a bit contrary to my experience for EDP order I did 7 months ago.

ocddetail

Please explain further as most dealers want a deposit to place order. 😀

SFT

I put a $1000 down and negotiated the price on ordering. I suggest you do the same. Dealer has the leverage when the car is in the showroom.

b0rderman

If you’re going to be OK with walking from the car once it’s in the showroom, then a no deposit/no commitment order seems like a great place to be as a buyer.

If you ‘have to have’ the car you ordered, then get the price negotiated in writing now.

Quackledork

Deposits are entirely at the dealership's discretion. I have paid them in the past, and I have had them waived. It depends on the dealership and your relationship with them. For this E63 order, they originally asked for the deposit, and I was willing to put it down.

Deposits are also a factor of what you order and how much the dealership wants to "lock you in" to the car. If you order something that the dealership is confident they can sell to somebody else, they may waive the deposit. This way, if you are indecisive when it arrives, they can dump you and sell it to somebody else. However, if you order something with an unusual combination of colors or options, a deposit would "lock you in" to the car.

As for negotiating the price, I've never negotiated the price until the car shows up.

There are positives and negatives to this.

On the positive side, you don't know what incentives will be available when the car shows up, there may be some you can use. Also, once the dealer has the car, they're motivated to move it, especially if its a special build. They WANT to sell it to you. Getting stuck with a slow moving, special build car is NOT good for a dealer. E63 wagons sell in very small numbers. As such, if the dealer orders one for you, they want you to take it. You can use this to your advantage in negotiating the price.

On the negative side, you don't know what the market conditions will be when the car shows up. If you order an E63 and they are hotter than hot when it shows up, the dealer can tack on extra fees or whatever they want in an attempt to maximize their profits. You also don't know what the lease rates will be when the car shows up (if you're leasing.)

In short, you and the dealership are gambling together that when your special build shows up, you will buy and they will make some money. I think its beneficial to wait until the car arrives to negotiate price. Because then the stakes are higher for both sides. You are negotiating with a tangible object and real conditions.

AMG RB

Sounds pretty reasonable Quackle, thanks. I just might be "pressing to test" that theory on a 21MY E63s next year.

Bvar0225

posted to the wrong thread unsure on to delete.

MuffinFlavored

can somebody with an 2021 E63S build DM me their VIN? i want to look up the software + part numbers in Xentry EPC

wdimagineer

Nobody is going to have a VIN this soon. But I have a few VINs from various European cars.

MuffinFlavored

please dm if they are e63s amg 2021s

wdimagineer

What parts are you looking for? I might already have them in my list.

MuffinFlavored

ecu, tcu, cpc, and the new secure gateway

jacksonlui

What's considered a good discount off MSRP for a non AMG in San Diego? Is it still about 4%?

PL_AMG

Not a build date exactly but, my sales guy just emailed me today. He said we are a month away from production and that the car should be here end of January

Corsair66

My production date slipped from October (2nd decade) to November (2nd decade). As of last Friday, the status hadn’t yet changed to reflect the start of production.

I have never failed to negotiate the price of a car prior to placing the order. Leaving that task until the car arrives is entirely too much of a gamble for the buyer. AMG leases aren’t as flexible (MF-wise) as regular MBs, anyway. In the case of this new E63S sedan, I received a very satisfactory discount from MSRP (my dealer asked me not to share it publicly) and, though asked for a $2K deposit, it hasn’t yet been charged, despite my having a written order in hand. In the past, I’ve sometimes paid a deposit and sometimes not - there seems to be no rhyme or reason to it.

At the moment, I’m hoping for a late-December or early-January delivery.

ENCT

I have a February build with a March delivery. If it pushes back a bit it's fine with me, I would rather get it in Spring. (Don't feel like swapping to winter tires for a short time)

HBerman

Start of production for E63S wagons is Dec 15! My order just went red in the ordering system. I expect the car around the 3rd week of Jan. The wait continues.

Corsair66

I bug my sales guy every Friday, so we’ll see what news tomorrow brings.

jacksonlui

Anyone have a reference to an honest sales person in the san diego area who is also involved in these forums?