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Old May 28, 2021 | 04:10 PM
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Hey guys , im new to MB so excuse the noob questions. My 21 E53 has the airmatic so i take it i can use this. My question is, would i need any type of alignment after lowering it? Any one experience any excessive camber wear? Anything else change or need adjustment like a traditional lowered car?
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Old Aug 12, 2021 | 07:25 PM
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I didn't have a good experience with loweringmodule.com I suggest staying away. I'm pretty sure the modules are all coming from the same source anyway.
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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mikha619
Hey guys , im new to MB so excuse the noob questions. My 21 E53 has the airmatic so i take it i can use this. My question is, would i need any type of alignment after lowering it? Any one experience any excessive camber wear? Anything else change or need adjustment like a traditional lowered car?
Once you have it sitting where you want it to, it is always recommended to get an alignment to adjust the camber and toe to avoid excessive tire wear.
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 04:21 AM
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Once you have it sitting where you want it to, it is always recommended to get an alignment to adjust the camber and toe to avoid excessive tire wear.
Reality is OEM – there is no Front or Rear Camber to adjust !

The often quoted reassuring “Full Front & Rear '4' Wheel Alignment” is only Toe - “Directional” adjustment (new car industry's best kept secret).

Then being told because of broad alignment parameters “is within factory specs”.

It's all to do with cost cutting and the ever increasing speed of OEM assembly lines.

No front Camber and Caster, no rear Camber to adjust tire contact angles spread load more evenly. Excess edge load can also lead to ruptured side walls and rim damage.

We saw the need therefore to fix it right the 1st. time. To resolve costly, premature, edge tire wear issues – to cater for other then showroom height conditions !

Day to day commuting encountering high cambered roads, wheel squat through load carrying or lowering, fitting wide profile tires, curb knocks etc.


FOR THE W213 AMG WE MNF. A “TOTAL SYSTEM” WHEN IT COMES TO FRONT & REAR ALIGNMENT (in fact every Mercedes Benz Model 1968 to 2021)
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Mac
Reality is OEM – there is no Front or Rear Camber to adjust !

The often quoted reassuring “Full Front & Rear '4' Wheel Alignment” is only Toe - “Directional” adjustment (new car industry's best kept secret).

Then being told because of broad alignment parameters “is within factory specs”.

It's all to do with cost cutting and the ever increasing speed of OEM assembly lines.

No front Camber and Caster, no rear Camber to adjust tire contact angles spread load more evenly. Excess edge load can also lead to ruptured side walls and rim damage.

We saw the need therefore to fix it right the 1st. time. To resolve costly, premature, edge tire wear issues – to cater for other then showroom height conditions !

Day to day commuting encountering high cambered roads, wheel squat through load carrying or lowering, fitting wide profile tires, curb knocks etc.


FOR THE W213 AMG WE MNF. A “TOTAL SYSTEM” WHEN IT COMES TO FRONT & REAR ALIGNMENT (in fact every Mercedes Benz Model 1968 to 2021)
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Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings Since 1964 !
You guys offer adjustable upper control arms now? That's very nice. I'd recommend that option for anyone lowering their E63.
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 02:34 PM
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You guys offer adjustable upper control arms now? That's very nice. I'd recommend that option for anyone lowering their E63.
Go with F1-Fab. K-mac is trash.
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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 06:53 AM
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You guys offer adjustable upper control arms now? That's very nice. I'd recommend that option for anyone lowering their E63.
Yes the W213 AMG “Rear upper Camber arms” (and also include “extra” Toe adjustment to compensate) #502226-1M are designed as a alternative to the rear lower arm inner Camber bushes.

They're high strength forged alloy same as OEM. Not soft extruded aluminum or welded, fabricated.

Do point out that the Mercedes Benz W213 AMG rear lower arm mounts are slotted. You can purchase a inaccurate one only offset position Camber plate. Providing minuscule 3mm (1/8”) Camber change.

We saw the need and designed created the #502326-1K kit (see attached instruction sheet) to provide '4' times the adjustment range (Pos or Neg) and to be accurate precise – single wrench adjustable !

Also includes extra Toe to compensate. Bush extraction tool included so no need for arm removal.



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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 06:54 AM
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Raudiace4 – Go easy It's all about constant, ongoing development – Biggest, Quickest, Strongest adjustment Systems. Since taking on the role of resolving new car industry's shortcomings when it comes to lack of Camber and Caster adjustment – Since 1995 we last count have “106 P/N's” solely for Mercedes Benz models !

Invented patented the single wrench “bush adjustment system”. The quickest, biggest all positional “strut adjustment” system and for “wishbone suspensions” the adjustable ball joint, which is now the industry standard!

Yes along the way mistakes are made but Elon Musk echoed Ferdinand Porsche “If a mistake not made.... you are not really trying”

It’s same with the OEM industry it’s all about “constant ongoing development”.

Anything & Everything can be improved, Kevin.

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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 10:14 AM
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Go with F1-Fab. K-mac is trash.
That seems to be the consensus with those that bought K-mac and then F1-Fab.
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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 08:11 PM
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I bought lowering module and it works grate , but it made my ride even harsher, I feel bad about suspension when driving in Chicago roads , so I put back to stock and will only use lowering when going out, for everyday use I found it too harsh ... on top of very stiff E63s suspension , waiting for wheel spacers to become available
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 08:47 AM
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That seems to be the consensus with those that bought K-mac and then F1-Fab.
Hi Bill Yes, re consensus you could say it serves us right (not having a unblemished record) by sticking our neck out taking on the role of designing, manufacturing 106 P/N's to cover virtually every Mercedes model 1968 to 2021 (53 year model span) to resolve premature tire wear issues.

But where confident the current generation, no other brand comes close re Quickest, Biggest, Strongest adjustment systems.

ESPECIALLY WHEN OWNERS UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE:

Replacing the “Front Upper Wishbones” with welded, fabricated arms”

VERSUS THE 4 KMAC OPTIONS LISTED ABOVE (#29)
1. Camber Adj. Bushes $295
2. Camber and Caster Adj. Bushes $480.
3. Wishbone Camber & Caster Adj. Bushes $380
4. Wishbone complete arms (Forged alloy) Camber & Caster Adj. $795

As set out experience of 57 years solely in aftermarket suspension design - “Replacing the Safety, Security of the Mercedes factory (highly critical front upper wishbone) arms with welded, fabricated arms for us is not a option.

Do point out by far most popular kit is #1. (503416-1G) – Lower arm “Camber” adj. Bushes (fit without arm removal, single wrench adjustable, retains tire to outer fender clearance).

While #3 (503316-2J) upper inner wishbone Camber & Caster adj. Bushes RETAINS THE SAFETY, SECURITY OF THE MERCEDES FACTORY ARMS.

#4 (503316-3P) Complete upper wishbone arms Camber & Caster adj. FEATURE HI STRENGTH FORGED ALLOY SAME AS OEM.

Best Regards Kevin

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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 12:10 PM
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For those that are looking to get a lowering module read this thread:
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 02:20 AM
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Hi Bill Resolving costly, premature edge tire wear and “there is only one way to get correct Camber when lowered”.

As above, did one's best to set out that currently there are '4' alternatives !

All with the security of not replacing a key / critical OEM suspension component - “Front upper wishbones” with welded / fabricated arms.

Most popular #1 503416-1G (also at $295 both sides the cheapest). Plus the security of retaining the OEM hi strength forged alloy arms and can install “without the need for arm removal”

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