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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 01:39 PM
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If anyone is having this issue and just wants to delete the auto Start/Stop feature, I can delete it for you in the code.
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 02:04 PM
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Can you remove start/stop but keep sailing and 8/4 in Comfort?
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 03:15 PM
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I believe stop/start, sailing and cylinder deactivation share dependencies, so disabling one may affect the others. Hopefully HDTuning can confirm.

You may want a config that just retains the selected state, so if you turn off start/stop it stays off even when cycling the ignition. This way, you can turn it back on when wanted.

I had this setup on my C-Class and "problem" solved.

Most of the "ECO Off" OBD flash programmers use this method.


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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
There have been several reports of this happening with other AMG V8 models. I don't recall if there was ever a solution posted, but it's some kind of a malfunction. Like others, I turn start/stop off first thing after starting the engine. It's a silly and questionable "feature" in an AMG, and just one more thing that can break as evidenced here. If you have lots of short stops, you actually end up using more fuel. For stops of 7 seconds or less, idling uses less fuel than restarting the engine.
I do the same thing. The moment the car fires, the *** is turned off! Wish there was a way to turn it off completely . . .
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 03:25 PM
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I do the same thing. The moment the car fires, the *** is turned off! Wish there was a way to turn it off completely . . .
https://www.midcityengineering.com/p...s-benz-ecopcm/

This is what I had on my other car and it worked perfectly.

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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 04:23 PM
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I'd like to disable just the start/stop and keep the rest. Every company/programmer so far has said that sailing/4cyl are also disabled when they do their thing. So really all they're doing is pressing the console button automatically. I end up just running in sport mode and use comfort when I'm on the freeway.
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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 04:32 PM
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How does one "engage" sailing mode? I've never seen it on mine, but 4 cylinder mode I see all the time, in comfort mode.

edit: nvm, found out turning off auto stop/start also disables sail/glide mode. I always turn off auto s/s.

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Old Apr 28, 2023 | 04:32 PM
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... So really all they're doing is pressing the console button automatically. ...
Exactly. You're just buying the little dude that lives in the fridge and turns the light on for you when you open the door, lol.

For me, it's worth the money but not for everyone.

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Originally Posted by taphil
How does one "engage" sailing mode? I've never seen it on mine, but 4 cylinder mode I see all the time, in comfort mode.

edit: nvm, found out turning off auto stop/start also disables sail/glide mode. I always turn off auto s/s.
Sailing/Glide mode is supposed to happen automatically when you coast. There is supposedly a lower speed limit and I read somewhere an upper one but I think that is BS as I observed sailing mode at well over 100. You're right, you do have to be in comfort mode with the auto start/stop on. There does seem to be some steps you need to go through also for it to trigger, maybe accelerate then fully lift off the throttle?

From what I've read, it appears there is no distinct start/stop on/off. It is a group of features that get turned on/off consisting of auto start/stop, sailing/glide, and 8/4 cyl switching. I don't mind the sailing (actually kind of cool) and 4cyl modes. I hate auto start/stop.

There actually is a way to disable start/atop and that only. If your starter battery isn't fully charged then auto start/stop is disabled but 4cyl (and I assume) sailing continue to work.
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