Official waiting room for those with a new W213 on order..
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I had a second week of May build that was guided to production by end of July as I had spec'd designo paint and interior leather. I just got this in my inbox today. Horrendous. Good luck to others.
"Earlier this year your MY21 E63 S Wagon was converted to a MY22 build due to production timing. The PO converted correctly, showing the accurate custom paint and upholstery needed for the requested custom interior. However, in an unrelated & subsequent measure we received news that all MY22 E 63 S Wagons are now delayed until further notice. In the time being, these orders are being converted to what can be built currently.
As such, this order has been converted to a S213 E450S4S. Please advise if you would like to move the previous PA1 specifications to this PO / model. Otherwise, please hold a record of this spec on your end to consider requesting on a future E63 S Wagon order your customer may want to place. Please note we are unable to predict any timeline for when a future order may be possible as of now."
"Earlier this year your MY21 E63 S Wagon was converted to a MY22 build due to production timing. The PO converted correctly, showing the accurate custom paint and upholstery needed for the requested custom interior. However, in an unrelated & subsequent measure we received news that all MY22 E 63 S Wagons are now delayed until further notice. In the time being, these orders are being converted to what can be built currently.
As such, this order has been converted to a S213 E450S4S. Please advise if you would like to move the previous PA1 specifications to this PO / model. Otherwise, please hold a record of this spec on your end to consider requesting on a future E63 S Wagon order your customer may want to place. Please note we are unable to predict any timeline for when a future order may be possible as of now."
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Ugh this is worrisome. I have a MY21 wagon that was also originally a late May build, that got pushed to late July and there's been no update since then. I didn't get any news that it was converted to MY22 order and then cancelled, but I'm not holding my breath anymore at this point.
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Most dealers aren't in the loop here for some odd reason but suspect they'll all be up to speed in the coming weeks. I sent a scathing message to MBUSA for such poor communication. I get the feeling they aren't even sure what's going to happen so they're hedging by scaling out of 2022 orders versus cancelling all at once. I won't speculate anymore.
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Most dealers aren't in the loop here for some odd reason but suspect they'll all be up to speed in the coming weeks. I sent a scathing message to MBUSA for such poor communication. I get the feeling they aren't even sure what's going to happen so they're hedging by scaling out of 2022 orders versus cancelling all at once. I won't speculate anymore.
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Yeah exactly, that's my take as well per my own dealer who's aware of the delay notice, but still sees my order in Netstar (see above in this thread). In another thread Shahul (the dealer rep who posts here), noted that all the E63 sedans were replaced by 53 sedans but that there were still 72 E63 wagons in the system for the US. Who knows why. 🤷🏻♂️
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I had a second week of May build that was guided to production by end of July as I had spec'd designo paint and interior leather. I just got this in my inbox today. Horrendous. Good luck to others.
"Earlier this year your MY21 E63 S Wagon was converted to a MY22 build due to production timing. The PO converted correctly, showing the accurate custom paint and upholstery needed for the requested custom interior. However, in an unrelated & subsequent measure we received news that all MY22 E 63 S Wagons are now delayed until further notice. In the time being, these orders are being converted to what can be built currently.
As such, this order has been converted to a S213 E450S4S. Please advise if you would like to move the previous PA1 specifications to this PO / model. Otherwise, please hold a record of this spec on your end to consider requesting on a future E63 S Wagon order your customer may want to place. Please note we are unable to predict any timeline for when a future order may be possible as of now."
"Earlier this year your MY21 E63 S Wagon was converted to a MY22 build due to production timing. The PO converted correctly, showing the accurate custom paint and upholstery needed for the requested custom interior. However, in an unrelated & subsequent measure we received news that all MY22 E 63 S Wagons are now delayed until further notice. In the time being, these orders are being converted to what can be built currently.
As such, this order has been converted to a S213 E450S4S. Please advise if you would like to move the previous PA1 specifications to this PO / model. Otherwise, please hold a record of this spec on your end to consider requesting on a future E63 S Wagon order your customer may want to place. Please note we are unable to predict any timeline for when a future order may be possible as of now."
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I caught up with my salesperson on the phone - apparently, I was assigned a Dec build slot (which is really plus 12-14 weeks to accommodate the designo paint and interior) and was asked if I still wanted it. I said yes and it's approved for the same spec I had put together. However, I'm not sure what a Dec build slot means when they're not producing any E63s for some unspecified period of time.
Those of us w/ MY22 orders in are likely SOL.
I just got off the phone with my guy *and* the inventory manager at the mega-dealer in SoCal re: my MY22 Wagon build. They basically said that while it's possible MB may get MY22s going again late this year/early next, anyone with a MY22 on order should realistically expect to wait for a MY23 build, be that a 63s or a 73e. That said, I'm quite skeptical that a 73e Wagon will be available as a '23 model.
Additional note: they confirmed what others here have mentioned: this timeline applies to all MY22 E63S Sedans and Wagons, as well as MY22 GT63s.
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I think folks with a MY21 order in may get their cars, albeit well-later than expected.
Those of us w/ MY22 orders in are likely SOL.
I just got off the phone with my guy *and* the inventory manager at the mega-dealer in SoCal re: my MY22 Wagon build. They basically said that while it's possible MB may get MY22s going again late this year/early next, anyone with a MY22 on order should realistically expect to wait for a MY23 build, be that a 63s or a 73e. That said, I'm quite skeptical that a 73e Wagon will be available as a '23 model.
Additional note: they confirmed what others here have mentioned: this timeline applies to all MY22 E63S Sedans and Wagons, as well as MY22 GT63s.
Those of us w/ MY22 orders in are likely SOL.
I just got off the phone with my guy *and* the inventory manager at the mega-dealer in SoCal re: my MY22 Wagon build. They basically said that while it's possible MB may get MY22s going again late this year/early next, anyone with a MY22 on order should realistically expect to wait for a MY23 build, be that a 63s or a 73e. That said, I'm quite skeptical that a 73e Wagon will be available as a '23 model.
Additional note: they confirmed what others here have mentioned: this timeline applies to all MY22 E63S Sedans and Wagons, as well as MY22 GT63s.
I highly doubt Merc will launch the E73e wagon before the EOP for 213. The E73e will most likely launch in the W214.
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Regarding the E73e, I'm inclined to agree. Highly doubt we see it until 214.
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No chance for a E63e/E73 in the W213. In fact, there might not be one in the W214 either. I don't think it's clear that the E-Class will retain a V8 at all.
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As for the W214, I really hope that’s not the case. I suppose it’s feasible for the AMG E to be a six banger hybrid, but I’m really hoping the E (the hammer) gets one more gen with a V8 hybrid at the top of the model range. Lower production/sales of such a model should help offset the emissions issues.
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And this is where all the confusion arises as many dealers will tell you there are no 2022 orders. Who really knows at this point. Mercedes is doing a horrible job communicating clearly to some of its most valuable customers. Good luck!
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As a data point: I ended up cancelling my 2022 E63 wagon order with my dealership this weekend. They didn't receive any confirmation that it would be cancelled but they indicated that they don't think I'd get an allocation any time soon, if ever, and refunded my deposit. I placed the initial order back in March. Oh well... there are other cars, though none quite like that wagon.
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Another guy posted on the on-AMG W213 forum that all MY 22 E Classes regardless of trim will not include:
1. The wide screen in front of the driver. Replaced by analog gauges.
2. No Keyless Go. Yes, that means sticking a physical key into the car to start and operate.
3. No Hands Free Access. Means you’ll have to open the trunk the old fashioned way.
Not really sure how the E63's will play out in this (for those who may get a Dec built E63S4) since the guy mentioned that he was told no E63's will be produced for MY 22. I absolutely will not accept a car without any of those aforementioned features.
1. The wide screen in front of the driver. Replaced by analog gauges.
2. No Keyless Go. Yes, that means sticking a physical key into the car to start and operate.
3. No Hands Free Access. Means you’ll have to open the trunk the old fashioned way.
Not really sure how the E63's will play out in this (for those who may get a Dec built E63S4) since the guy mentioned that he was told no E63's will be produced for MY 22. I absolutely will not accept a car without any of those aforementioned features.
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Another guy posted on the on-AMG W213 forum that all MY 22 E Classes regardless of trim will not include:
1. The wide screen in front of the driver. Replaced by analog gauges.
2. No Keyless Go. Yes, that means sticking a physical key into the car to start and operate.
3. No Hands Free Access. Means you’ll have to open the trunk the old fashioned way.
Not really sure how the E63's will play out in this (for those who may get a Dec built E63S4) since the guy mentioned that he was told no E63's will be produced for MY 22. I absolutely will not accept a car without any of those aforementioned features.
1. The wide screen in front of the driver. Replaced by analog gauges.
2. No Keyless Go. Yes, that means sticking a physical key into the car to start and operate.
3. No Hands Free Access. Means you’ll have to open the trunk the old fashioned way.
Not really sure how the E63's will play out in this (for those who may get a Dec built E63S4) since the guy mentioned that he was told no E63's will be produced for MY 22. I absolutely will not accept a car without any of those aforementioned features.
