E53 Wagon wheel options?
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E53 Wagon wheel options?
Not sure how many of you have heard of the E53 wagon, up here in Toronto, they were for sale for a short time. Other than running BBS, does anyone know of an OEM option to run E63 widths?
E53 wagons run:
245/35/20 8x20 ET 20
275/30/20 9x20 ET 49
I can see there is easily enough room (like 10mm on both the front and back) to run wider...
Let me know and thank you!!
E53 wagons run:
245/35/20 8x20 ET 20
275/30/20 9x20 ET 49
I can see there is easily enough room (like 10mm on both the front and back) to run wider...
Let me know and thank you!!
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You can consider doing e63s setup with these wheels ….
https://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/me.../all/price_asc
you will need new tires accordingly.
with new wheels and tires, I’m not so sure it’s worth the $ to run just a slightly wider tires.
michelin ps4s tires (e63s setup) would be another $2700 Cdn (all incl) easily.
https://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/me.../all/price_asc
you will need new tires accordingly.
with new wheels and tires, I’m not so sure it’s worth the $ to run just a slightly wider tires.
michelin ps4s tires (e63s setup) would be another $2700 Cdn (all incl) easily.
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Yes @bobblehead ! A fellow Tdot member! I am thinking of running the OEM as winters, then lowering it and running a new (albeit wider) set up for summer. Its just money, right? Thank you for the link, but I am not sure these will fit. Fronts on the site are 9.5", I run 8".
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Seems like you are in Mississauga?? Too bad I don’t see too many e53 wagon in other parts of gta. I have seen only 2 of your trim model roaming in Markham/Richmond hill.
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With your oem e53 wheels, the tires width are maxed out. So, you can’t use the same rims and putting in e63 tire setup.
Aside from oem wheels, forum members tend to do custom wheels ordering, given the e63s offset is very weird and you are going to have a tough time finding cheapo aftermarket wheels that meet your liking. (You can but they might be gravity cast wheels likely and quality is hit and miss)
Aside from oem wheels, forum members tend to do custom wheels ordering, given the e63s offset is very weird and you are going to have a tough time finding cheapo aftermarket wheels that meet your liking. (You can but they might be gravity cast wheels likely and quality is hit and miss)
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I am in Maple actually. Duff n Major Mac area. I am fine running a whole new rim tire for the summer, that is the idea. It looks like BBS rims and new tires will be the way to go.
on another topic, have you used MBhouse?
on another topic, have you used MBhouse?
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https://www.willtheyfit.com/
you can use this site to see your current vs proposed setup to ensure the new setup will cause no issue … ie. clearing the front suspension especially.
you can use this site to see your current vs proposed setup to ensure the new setup will cause no issue … ie. clearing the front suspension especially.
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if you are willing to spend the $, then bbs would be a great choice.
I have not used mb house, I did consider using them for some coding service a few yrs back but ended up not doing it. I believe they are reputable as based on a few reviews I had seen on some social media sites.
if you are in maple, then there is a good chance I may run into you then … with your unique personal plate, I surely would give you a honk 😁
And thank you for your advice and recommendations!
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Do note if you are choosing e63s tires setup, there is a shortage of Michelin ps4s in the gta. So, you may have to talk to a few wheels/tires shops to see if their suppliers have some already sitting in their warehouses.
If no luck, you should start making a few calls in early spring to reserve/get those tires.
If no luck, you should start making a few calls in early spring to reserve/get those tires.
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Do note if you are choosing e63s tires setup, there is a shortage of Michelin ps4s in the gta. So, you may have to talk to a few wheels/tires shops to see if their suppliers have some already sitting in their warehouses.
If no luck, you should start making a few calls in early spring to reserve/get those tires.
If no luck, you should start making a few calls in early spring to reserve/get those tires.
@Coopaloop! personally I like your current setup...will be easier to fit winter tires.
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What year did Molson Brewery discontinue its Brador malt liquor? Had it last summer of 1983 when we visited Toronto from the University of Rochester. Toronto is a beautiful city!
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I can give you my comments on having all seasons…
I swapped out my worn factory Michelin 4s into PS all season 4 (I’m in my 2nd season now). Ride is a bit softer. Tire noise is about the same (kinda noisy) as 4s. Dry grip is probably 80% of 4S. Wet grip is slightly better than 4S (on asphalt). In the end, just shy of $1,000 savings for choosing the all season 4. Btw, I don’t use this for winter as I have dedicated winters.
if anyone is driving theirs very aggressively, I recommend you are to stay with 4s (mainly for the grip)
I swapped out my worn factory Michelin 4s into PS all season 4 (I’m in my 2nd season now). Ride is a bit softer. Tire noise is about the same (kinda noisy) as 4s. Dry grip is probably 80% of 4S. Wet grip is slightly better than 4S (on asphalt). In the end, just shy of $1,000 savings for choosing the all season 4. Btw, I don’t use this for winter as I have dedicated winters.
if anyone is driving theirs very aggressively, I recommend you are to stay with 4s (mainly for the grip)
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Had to take off OE summer RFT for New Mexico cold morning winters and trips thru mountain passes. Had planned to replace with summer setup in June 2022 but have gotten used to softer overall ride especially in S and S+. Don't plan on tracking my heavy AMG Wagon especially since didn't spec CCB. My manual Chevy SS is equipped with Michelin Summers that I feel confident up to its mph limit. Tire noise is slightly better than OE RFT...but when Continentals get worn they become more noisy from experience. When I ran the older DWS06 tires on 2009 Pontiac G8 GT ten years ago they didn't inspire confidence above 130mph. These new DWS06+ tires on my 2021 Wagon with better suspension than Pontiac and 4Matic+ are good enough for now and for when I encounter potholes in DC and NYC this Fall and Winter. Plus they are way cheaper than Michelins and were in stock at Discount Tire Warehouse in 2021. Purchased Jack, breaker bar, and Torque wrench for Wagon since need to cross all of TEXAS on way to GA residence 1500 miles away. Good thing that I have 4 spare tires now!
If you plan on tracking your vehicle get the Michelin Summer non run flats and change to winters or all seasons depending on your climate. I have options with 3 high performance vehicles out West and 2 Asian Appliances in Georgia.
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^ Thanks, but no fitment for the 20" wheel option on the AT...or the E63...depending on if/when my E63 order goes through and it gets delivered, I may be buying A/S tires for both wagons...so may end up trying both the Michelins and the Contis.
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Tirerack.com has DWS06+: $1043.96 for All Terrain (245/40 ZR20 XL)
Vredestein Quatrac Pro same fitment: $837.84
I need the extra winter bite for my Hybrid's AWD 18" application...
Give us update which ultra high performance all season tire you prefer when you get 2023 E63s: Michelin versus Continental.
In 2021, my only choice was DWS06+ for AMG Wagon's staggered fitment. Michelin was out of stock at the time.
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Tirerack.com has DWS06+: $1043.96 for All Terrain (245/40 ZR20 XL)
Vredestein Quatrac Pro same fitment: $837.84
I need the extra winter bite for my Hybrid's AWD 18" application...
Give us update which ultra high performance all season tire you prefer when you get 2023 E63s: Michelin versus Continental.
In 2021, my only choice was DWS06+ for AMG Wagon's staggered fitment. Michelin was out of stock at the time.
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Tires on the AT with optional 20s are staggered 245/40-20 front and 275/35-20 rear (interestingly and oddly, on 1/2 inch wider wheels than indicated above on the E53). I value tirerack.com as a resource, but they have had this wrong for a couple years now.
The two we are discussing are the only quality A/S options for either wagon application (neither of which are the subject wagon...apologies for derailing).
The two we are discussing are the only quality A/S options for either wagon application (neither of which are the subject wagon...apologies for derailing).
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