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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 11:14 AM
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I'm looking to buy a 2021 E63S. A dealer sent me this window sticker and it looks well optioned minus the CCB's (were they even offered?).

What options is this car missing? I'm trying to learn all the options and asking dealers to send the build stickers.. Also if anyone has an unmolested one under 10K miles they want to sell, I'm cash and an transact same day.

What options are must haves in your opinion?


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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 11:21 AM
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That's a well equipped example. It's just missing a driver!
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 11:26 AM
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the options may be listed but I recalled augmented video was never installed in many vehicles due to chips shortage. You may want to double check.
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 11:31 AM
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the options may be listed but I recalled augmented video was never installed in many vehicles due to chips shortage. You may want to double check.
It SHOULDN'T show on the build sheet if it wasn't equipped and standard features would list as a credit if they were omitted.

OP, post the VIN and I'll check for you.
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 11:35 AM
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or it could simply be credited on the final purchase & sale agreement .... I recalled people had this optioned and MB dealer was to let customers know this function will be installed once the chips are available. There were some (in this forum) ended up getting a small credit because the chips are nowhere to be found
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
or it could simply be credited on the final purchase & sale agreement .... I recalled people had this optioned and MB dealer was to let customers know this function will be installed once the chips are available. There were some (in this forum) ended up getting a small credit because the chips are nowhere to be found
At least for US cars, the build sheet and Monroney sticker will reflect how the car is equipped. It will not show options the car does not have, even if it was ordered by the customer from the dealership. If the feature is standard, it will be listed on the options as a missing feature with a credit for that function.

I have seen one instance where standard massage function was missing from a 2021 S580 but was not listed as a credit.
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CincyMBGuy
It SHOULDN'T show on the build sheet if it wasn't equipped and standard features would list as a credit if they were omitted.

OP, post the VIN and I'll check for you.
Thank you!!

Here's the VIN: W1KZF8KB2MA931575

Also, it lists the seats as "Titanium Grey/Black Exclusive Nappa Leather with yellow stitching". Was there an option for full black leather? I'm not a fan of gray leather interiors, and just want to make sure this is what the "black leather" option is called and not something else. Is this the same as generic "black leather" or is this an actual Gray leather that someone chose?


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all your questions are answered if you look at DOG https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ing-guide.html

Black leather is different than gray with yellow stitching. It's "missing" acoustic comfort, rear side airbags, carbon fiber II, dinamica headliner, steering wheel options, sun protection package, carbon fiber engine cover, warmth and comfort package

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Originally Posted by taphil
all your questions are answered if you look at DOG https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/...ing-guide.html

Black leather is different than gray with yellow stitching. It's "missing" acoustic comfort, rear side airbags, carbon fiber II, dinamica headliner, steering wheel options, sun protection package, carbon fiber engine cover, warmth and comfort package
Wow thank you for that link. This is what I needed.

Couple questions/thoughts:

1. What were the steering wheel options you are referring to? I'm looking at the guide and it looks to be standard..
2. Insane that they would make a $130K car and not include side rear airbags as standard. Don't almost all cars have that now??
3. So according to the ordering guide, if I see yellow stitching it's an easy way to tell it's the titanium leather color (588). Alternatively, if I see silver stitching we know it's black/black (561)?
4. What is dinamica headliner? If the car does not have dinamica, what does it have? My Old CLS 55 had alcantara and it was amazing. My old E63 (W212) had this weird cheap looking black vinyl. Is dynamica closer to the alcantara or the cheap plastic stuff?

If anyone has a picture of what "full black" leather looks like compared to this "titanium/black", I'd be super thankful and send you a bunch of good karma.

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Rear window curtain airbags are standard, it's the seat side impact seat airbag that's optional.

The steering wheel options can be all Napa leather, leather and dinamica, all dinamica, and there's a carbon fiber one too I think.

The best place to find high quality interior pics and difference between black and gray leather is to look at car listings on Autotrader or whatever car site you use.
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Originally Posted by TheVazha
Thank you!!

Here's the VIN: W1KZF8KB2MA931575

Also, it lists the seats as "Titanium Grey/Black Exclusive Nappa Leather with yellow stitching". Was there an option for full black leather? I'm not a fan of gray leather interiors, and just want to make sure this is what the "black leather" option is called and not something else. Is this the same as generic "black leather" or is this an actual Gray leather that someone chose?
A full black option was available. It's been a while since I've seen that interior in person, but if I recall it is black with grey accents on the seats.
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 01:41 PM
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Rear window curtain airbags are standard, it's the seat side impact seat airbag that's optional.

The steering wheel options can be all Napa leather, leather and dinamica, all dinamica, and there's a carbon fiber one too I think.

The best place to find high quality interior pics and difference between black and gray leather is to look at car listings on Autotrader or whatever car site you use.
Ahh yes you are right. There are different variations of the steering wheel. Which do you have? I've read the dinamica streering wheel can start to look rough after a little while? Assuming this is true, is there a way to recondition it or swap for new? I'm looking at 2017+ Porsche GTS's as well and mot have the full alcantara steering wheel and some look ok, others look like the owner was using it as a napkin.
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Looks like a good choice Long time no see! Hope you're staying well.
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I took a second look at the build sheet and this one has a lot of options that were mostly unavailable for 2021. That may be something to consider as you shop it against other examples.

Options that were and some that still are troublesome-
  • DA4 Exterior Lighting Package
  • U19 Augmented Video for Navigation
  • 21U Dashcam
  • 463 Head-Up Display
  • 811 Burmester High-End Surround Sound System
  • 883 Soft-Close Doors
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You're a beast man.

The black looks good with silver. And the titanium looks rough in some pictures but awesome in others. What's been the general feel on the forum regarding the two? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but in general having to do with pricing and negotiation, is there one that's more desirable than the other? What about wear after time? The yellow looks awesome at first sight, but does it get to be a bit much after some time?
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I think the yellow stitching has been declared garish in this forum.
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Originally Posted by hyperion667
Looks like a good choice Long time no see! Hope you're staying well.
I missed this place and my old friends! Look forward to hopefully upping that post count with you soon!
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Originally Posted by CincyMBGuy
I took a second look at the build sheet and this one has a lot of options that were mostly unavailable for 2021. That may be something to consider as you shop it against other examples.

Options that were and some that still are troublesome-
  • DA4 Exterior Lighting Package
  • U19 Augmented Video for Navigation
  • 21U Dashcam
  • 463 Head-Up Display
  • 811 Burmester High-End Surround Sound System
  • 883 Soft-Close Doors
HUD is a must. My X5M's hud is amazing and I've learned to solely rely on it. Soft close doors are my favorite option on the M also.

Agumented vid sounds awesome too!
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I think the yellow stitching has been declared garish in this forum.
Haha I figured sides were chosen early in this topic. Such is the way of the boards, I'm glad I asked lol!
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Damn what's up OG!!

Car looks like an awesome spec, just missing CCB's and Carbon Fiber 2 (rear diffuser and some other bits). I don't know about the titanium, you might have to see that in person. You can't get performance seats on the FL models unfortunately, they're one of my favorite options on my car. I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH about how good the high end sound is.
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Damn what's up OG!!

Car looks like an awesome spec, just missing CCB's and Carbon Fiber 2 (rear diffuser and some other bits). I don't know about the titanium, you might have to see that in person. You can't get performance seats on the FL models unfortunately, they're one of my favorite options on my car. I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH about how good the high end sound is.
What up triple OG??

Noted on the sound. Sounds like my build is black interior and high end sound! 🤘
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To confirm, this is dinamica correct?




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And whats the name of this stuff on the build sheet?


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