HBerman

Originally, 150 FE sedans and 150 FE wagons were allocated to the US market. Sounds like the wagons flew off the lot, but that the sedans are languishing. Am I misunderstanding the current state?

taphil

150 identical matte gray FE sedans....that's possibly more numerous and less unique than a regular 2021 or 2023 non-FE sedan.

mercedesmax

Cars are still being built and shipped.

HBerman

Sounds like marketing is operating in a parallel universe.

ocdbroker

Harris, my numbers above were way off as I excluded a couple sources. Update: 51 FE wagons and 79 sedans available at the moment. Could be up to 10% of these sold but I can't tell for certain.

bslepko

Was just at the dealer for service on wife's car, E63 FE still on floor, dealer markup down to $25k. C63 FE also still sitting there...

ocdbroker

Roughly 140 new (55 wagons lol) listed for sale right now. Even assuming 10% of these are sold units, this is more supply than ever before by a very wide margin. If you're looking for a Final Edition, I think $10k under will easily buy you a wagon right now, and perhaps closer to $20k under for sedan. Even $167k is a big stretch for these cars. Who knows? Still a crazy world with so many pockets of bubbles... so much Monopoly money floating around... so maybe they'll all sell for MSRP. Doubtful though. One thing is for certain, Mercedes, tiring of dealers capturing the excess, priced them too high in this particular case.

E55 KEV

IMO. MBZ should have sent and allowed the US plenty of non FE 2023 E63s especially since there were no 2022 E63s avaiable here. Seems they should be trying to catch up to all the losses from not having any Model Year 2022 E63's.

graphitegreyamg

Compared to the rest of the world the US FE’s are watered down in options. Not a good look nor a respectable send off for AMG.

W205C43PFL

Unfortunately accounting won this time at least in the MBUSA market.

HBerman

Please clarify "watered down" missing content. There is magno paint added (+$), special black painted calipers (+$), special black forged wheel, applique (+$), yellow piping, badges (+$), and limited edition plaques. What i see is not included: CCB's, HUD, acoustic sound proofing with infrared glass, VR navigation, dash cam. I wouldn't call those items (except for the CCB's) as deal breaking.

Alan Smithee

Also no dynamic headlights on the sedan, and no rear AC on either. In addition to the above, Alcantara headliner is included…but aren’t we all aware at this point that the FE is a $50k paint, stripe, and badging package?

Edit: CF trim was standard for 2023. But looks like quite a few other options were not standard or available on the FE cars.

https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...uide-en_us.pdf

graphitegreyamg

As far as e63s go in the model line up its loaded. Compared to the FE’s worldwide its watered down. Multi beam missing, ccb missing, amongst other things and considering its a non configurable model it is just a regular e63s with nice paint and badging in the US

benzbell

FE E63 is a poverty spec albeit with a rich man's price tag.

HBerman

Here's the build sheet for the FE wagon:

MSRP_E63S4S_0370548960_c666950c_20230527 (002).docx

HBerman

I posted the build sheet for the FE wagon in another thread. My back of a napkin view is that the $$$ should be around $132,000 and not $177,000. So the value proposition is indicated at -$45,000. 10K or 20K off of MSRP should only be the start IMO.

ocdbroker

I believe my dealer is selling a FE wagon at MSRP. They currently have two. A friend of mine was considering one but got cold feet. If interested, hit up Tom M at MB of Scarborough Maine. Excellent, no nonsense dealership, in my experience, that sells lots of AMGs.

HBerman

Interesting. I assume a sedan and a wagon. Have you shared your discount perspectives with your salesperson? How long have these vehicles sat on the sales floor? I'm not sure if there is that much wiggle room to discount $20,000 unless the factory is subsidizing it via some incentive like conquest $$$. Boy am I happy that I was able to purchase my wagon in 2021 without all of this sales nonsense.

ocdbroker

They have two wagons. My salesperson doubts there will be any discounts off MSRP.

HBerman

That's understandable, but unlikely that they will be able to achieve that price given the current economic environment and all of the negative comments from enthusiasts about the vehicle configuration.

ocdbroker

Harris, did Raleigh sell their Final Edition(s)?

TheVazha

HUD, sound proofing, and built in dash cam are not deal breakers but amazing must have options. I’d rather have HUD than any of the other bs purely aesthetic options the FE has. 🤷‍♂️

lol no rear AC in what is supposed to be a luxury muscle car.

My guess is there’s not enough fan boys out there to buy these at the prices they’re asking.

The bigger problem is, would you buy one even if they were $125+- with the missing options? I guess you get the stickers and black calipers, those outweigh the convenience of a HUD and keeping your passengers cool.

HBerman

The vehicle was sold and delivered on Friday. Was in the store for less than two weeks.

Chocofishez19

Huge miss by MB here. The FE should be totally loaded and have the tune from the AMG GT S model sedan + unique paint / interior.

their approach with the existing FE just makes all of our cars look like better value by comparison.

E55 KEV

Because of this it appears that many customers including myself will not be able to purchase what they want. For me personally, the last 7 years I had actually planned and looked forward to buying a W213 2023 E63s.

LOL, got money burning a hole in my pocket but no damn cars to buy!