Lowering + Alignment e63s
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Lowering + Alignment e63s
I have a 19 e63s and I would love to lower the car a bit further using a lowering module, but I'm aware the camber adjustment on these cars is little to none. This car is my daily so I will be putting miles on it and do not want to be replacing tires on a regular basis. What is the best solution to this problem?
Before anyone says use the search function I have...I've searching for a definitive answer on the forum and elsewhere but I am constantly seeing mixed responses. I've seen the KMac bushing, but again I'm not sure if the product is a good solution considering it doesn't look like many people on here are using them.
Before anyone says use the search function I have...I've searching for a definitive answer on the forum and elsewhere but I am constantly seeing mixed responses. I've seen the KMac bushing, but again I'm not sure if the product is a good solution considering it doesn't look like many people on here are using them.
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It is very wise to be concerned with camber when lowering, so kudos to you for looking to do it correctly.
I highly recommend K-Mac, super high quality kit and customer service if you need it. After lowering my W205 I did the K-Mac camber kit (it needed it) and had my camber set at 0.5% degrees negative and zero toe for best tire wear. The wear was perfectly spread across the tread after 5K miles.
If you want more handling performance, you may want more negative camber and some toe-in, but as known: more negative camber and toe equals more tire wear, so it's a trade-off.
I highly recommend K-Mac, super high quality kit and customer service if you need it. After lowering my W205 I did the K-Mac camber kit (it needed it) and had my camber set at 0.5% degrees negative and zero toe for best tire wear. The wear was perfectly spread across the tread after 5K miles.
If you want more handling performance, you may want more negative camber and some toe-in, but as known: more negative camber and toe equals more tire wear, so it's a trade-off.
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How many mm did you go front and rear? Alignment is a must after that and find out how much camber you are running. From my previous cars, usually if it's not more than -2.2 the tires are ok and still have even wears. That is just from my experience with my previous 4 cars all lowered.
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It is very wise to be concerned with camber when lowering, so kudos to you for looking to do it correctly.
I highly recommend K-Mac, super high quality kit and customer service if you need it. After lowering my W205 I did the K-Mac camber kit (it needed it) and had my camber set at 0.5% degrees negative and zero toe for best tire wear. The wear was perfectly spread across the tread after 5K miles.
If you want more handling performance, you may want more negative camber and some toe-in, but as known: more negative camber and toe equals more tire wear, so it's a trade-off.
I highly recommend K-Mac, super high quality kit and customer service if you need it. After lowering my W205 I did the K-Mac camber kit (it needed it) and had my camber set at 0.5% degrees negative and zero toe for best tire wear. The wear was perfectly spread across the tread after 5K miles.
If you want more handling performance, you may want more negative camber and some toe-in, but as known: more negative camber and toe equals more tire wear, so it's a trade-off.
How many mm did you go front and rear? Alignment is a must after that and find out how much camber you are running. From my previous cars, usually if it's not more than -2.2 the tires are ok and still have even wears. That is just from my experience with my previous 4 cars all lowered.
The alignment is going to be shot and I prefer to just do things once and be done with it.
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Thank you, I've been modifying cars for a while and I've learned its best to just do things right the first time. K-Mac seems like the only option for the w213 e63s that I van see so I'll be giving them a call this week.
I haven't lowered it yet but having the tire maybe 1finger to 1/2 a finger gap is the goal. I love that look on cars.
The alignment is going to be shot and I prefer to just do things once and be done with it.
I haven't lowered it yet but having the tire maybe 1finger to 1/2 a finger gap is the goal. I love that look on cars.
The alignment is going to be shot and I prefer to just do things once and be done with it.
Good luck dude!
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Another thing I like about the K-Mac kit is the camber is adjusted on the lower A-arm as opposed to other methods that use the upper A-arm.
This allows you to adjust the camber by moving the bottom of the wheel in and out, as opposed to moving the top of the wheel in and out which can affect tire-to-fender clearance.
This allows you to adjust the camber by moving the bottom of the wheel in and out, as opposed to moving the top of the wheel in and out which can affect tire-to-fender clearance.
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I'm well over 30mm all around and I have adjustable control arms from thecamberking.com. They're OKAY and hold the alignment, but I've had to have a local shop custom make me ball joints for the arms as the ones they come with are ABSOLUTE TRASH. Biggest issue other than camber is the aggressive toe these cars run. My shop did a great custom alignment on my car and it tracks perfectly with tire wear as normal as stock.
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Let us know how it works for you.
Most people I’ve read give up on the KMac as they don’t stay put the whole bushing ends up spinning and you go nuts chasing it.
Mercedes has alignment bolts; I have no experience myself.
Also apparently castor/toe is a lot more important for tire wear then camber is.
Let us know how it works out!
Most people I’ve read give up on the KMac as they don’t stay put the whole bushing ends up spinning and you go nuts chasing it.
Mercedes has alignment bolts; I have no experience myself.
Also apparently castor/toe is a lot more important for tire wear then camber is.
Let us know how it works out!
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Let us know how it works for you.
Most people I’ve read give up on the KMac as they don’t stay put the whole bushing ends up spinning and you go nuts chasing it.
Mercedes has alignment bolts; I have no experience myself.
Also apparently castor/toe is a lot more important for tire wear then camber is.
Let us know how it works out!
Most people I’ve read give up on the KMac as they don’t stay put the whole bushing ends up spinning and you go nuts chasing it.
Mercedes has alignment bolts; I have no experience myself.
Also apparently castor/toe is a lot more important for tire wear then camber is.
Let us know how it works out!
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Keith 66 - Thanks for the input - makes it all worthwhile. It’s all about “constant, ongoing” design / development. We’ve come a long way with Mercedes Benz models now producing Front Camber and Caster plus Rear Camber with “extra” Toe kits.
See below Spoiler re “Chassis Guide along with “Quick Reference” sheet on Front and Rear kits covering virtually all models.
Note: Front kits add –1 after P/N if require Camber only (see Website and/or Catalog re complete listing).
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