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Hi everyone, new to the forums here so sorry if there is already a post like this.
My wife and I are in the market for a new car and I’ve always been a Mercedes guy. I’ve had a 2014 Forester XT for the last 6 years and have enjoyed it.
I am looking at a 2020 E63s as our fun car and to take on road trips (still keeping the forester as a daily).
I was wondering what current openers think about this car and what are some major concerns or issues you guys have had to deal with.
I’m looking for a car with under 30-35k miles on it. I am a little concerned about cost of maintenance (brakes and tires and frequency since the car is so fast).
No real issues, (I have a 2019 e63s.) I still love it too and have owned it for over a year. Depending how you drive the car rear tires can be problematic….I use launch control a lot and love drifting corners almost daily. Yes, I really enjoy this car and it’s my daily. I was just quoted front brake pads and rotors at the stealership for 4k$. I will be doing my own brakes obviously. Do yourself a favor and add on a warranty and buy cpo. Good luck on your decision!
Hi everyone, new to the forums here so sorry if there is already a post like this.
My wife and I are in the market for a new car and I’ve always been a Mercedes guy. I’ve had a 2014 Forester XT for the last 6 years and have enjoyed it.
I am looking at a 2020 E63s as our fun car and to take on road trips (still keeping the forester as a daily).
I was wondering what current openers think about this car and what are some major concerns or issues you guys have had to deal with.
I’m looking for a car with under 30-35k miles on it. I am a little concerned about cost of maintenance (brakes and tires and frequency since the car is so fast).
Thanks everyone!
There seems to be an emerging oil-vapor separator issue on the 4.0TT that can lead to rear main seal failure. It has been reported several times on this site, and site members who have done more digging have found that service histories on vehicles are showing rear main seal replacement as not uncommon. Be aware of this, check for it in the service history and for the presence of oil leaks. And plan to replace the separators before they take the RMS as collateral damage.
There seems to be an emerging oil-vapor separator issue on the 4.0TT that can lead to rear main seal failure. It has been reported several times on this site, and site members who have done more digging have found that service histories on vehicles are showing rear main seal replacement as not uncommon. Be aware of this, check for it in the service history and for the presence of oil leaks. And plan to replace the separators before they take the RMS as collateral damage.
this post is correct. Forgot I had an oil leak that was repaired under warranty.
When it breaks it will not be as inexpensive as the Forrester to fix. Also, it eats premium gas and it likes it. You can limit this a little by keeping off the gas, but if you're able to do that you have greater self control than most.
I am a little concerned about cost of maintenance (brakes and tires and frequency since the car is so fast).
You are correct to be thinking about tires and brakes. I went from a base model GLE350 to a Cayenne S with nearly 50% more horsepower. I am going through the front brake pads at an "alarming" pace compared to the GLE.
Higher-powered vehicles are correlated with increased consumption of tires, brake pads and rotors.
If you are concerned about maintenance cost, then an AMG is probably not for you. Especially if you just take it to a dealership and end up paying their prices. As mentioned above, a dealership will easily quote you $6k for a full front and rear brake job and you will go through brakes quickly. For reference I'm on my third set of brakes with my '19 C63S coupe at 32k miles and that's a ~500 lbs lighter car than the E63. You can save a bunch of money by at least sourcing your own parts. FCP Euro is a good place and they even have lifetime replacement. I get my brake jobs done now for less than $1000, because the parts are effectively free after the first set by taking advantage of the lifetime replacement. Tires as said is the other thing you'll go through quickly. Expect about 8k-10k miles from a set. At least that's the rate I'm going through tires. Some of this certainly depends on how you end up driving it, but if you drive it like a grandma, then why getting an AMG?
Last edited by superswiss; May 21, 2023 at 02:38 PM.
At least as long as they don't crack from road debris. Pads still wear and need to be replaced at about the same rate as with the steels and if you do need new rotors for some reason you are looking at 5 figures.
I am on my third Mercedes and 2nd AMG all from E class and never had any major issues. They are solid cars as long as you keep the maintenance in tack. Once a year maintenance is not too expensive considering this is like a supercar with 4 doors IMO.
Enjoy and the W213 E63s is a lot car for the money and you will enjoy it!! It's the only one car you will ever need!!
2024 AMG EQE SUV , 2021 E63S Wagon - gone, 2018 E63S Sedan - gone
Originally Posted by SEXYBEAST
CCB's here and never have to worry again.......
Originally Posted by ocdbroker
Porky gas guzzler
Transmission is clunky around town
Expensive to maintain
Plasticy interior
Off the top of my head, that's all the negatives I can come up with after owning a few.
Transmission is fine as long as you are in Sport mode (Comfort mode shifts too soon)
A bit more expensive than a standard W213 (More oil, additional air filters)
The interior well laid out and luxurious
I have CCB's so I only anticipate pad changes for a while, Rotors at 100K
If you are concerned about maintenance cost, then an AMG is probably not for you. Especially if you just take it to a dealership and end up paying their prices. As mentioned above, a dealership will easily quote you $6k for a full front and rear brake job and you will go through brakes quickly. For reference I'm on my third set of brakes with my '19 C63S coupe at 32k miles and that's a ~500 lbs lighter car than the E63. You can save a bunch of money by at least sourcing your own parts. FCP Euro is a good place and they even have lifetime replacement. I get my brake jobs done now for less than $1000, because the parts are effectively free after the first set by taking advantage of the lifetime replacement. Tires as said is the other thing you'll go through quickly. Expect about 8k-10k miles from a set. At least that's the rate I'm going through tires. Some of this certainly depends on how you end up driving it, but if you drive it like a grandma, then why getting an AMG?
this is ONE of the people I listen to on this forum. I agree 100%. Budget and “practicality,” are dependent obviously. Good luck!
If you are concerned about maintenance cost, then an AMG is probably not for you. Especially if you just take it to a dealership and end up paying their prices. As mentioned above, a dealership will easily quote you $6k for a full front and rear brake job and you will go through brakes quickly. For reference I'm on my third set of brakes with my '19 C63S coupe at 32k miles and that's a ~500 lbs lighter car than the E63. You can save a bunch of money by at least sourcing your own parts. FCP Euro is a good place and they even have lifetime replacement. I get my brake jobs done now for less than $1000, because the parts are effectively free after the first set by taking advantage of the lifetime replacement. Tires as said is the other thing you'll go through quickly. Expect about 8k-10k miles from a set. At least that's the rate I'm going through tires. Some of this certainly depends on how you end up driving it, but if you drive it like a grandma, then why getting an AMG?
FWIW, I drive pretty hard and have not had to change rotors yet, at 35,000 miles. Pads once. Tires yes. I get the 8,000 cited. But other than that, all has been good.
On the practicality side, lack of a spare tire is a minus. Sure, the provided tire fix kit will work for some flats (e.g. nail or screw hole), but not for more serious tire failures.
Ivan MacKenzie.
P.S. I was quite frankly dumb-founded when I discovered that MB doesn't even supply the tools needed to remove a tire...
On the practicality side, lack of a spare tire is a minus. Sure, the provided tire fix kit will work for some flats (e.g. nail or screw hole), but not for more serious tire failures.
Ivan MacKenzie.
P.S. I was quite frankly dumb-founded when I discovered that MB doesn't even supply the tools needed to remove a tire...
FWIW, I haven't had a car with a spare tire in 10 years and I often drive in remote areas. Major tire failure is rare with properly inflated and well maintained quality tires. They don't just fail. Most people's spare tires are deflated by the time they need them. The Tirefit kit has a compressor, so you can periodically air it up and hopefully seal with the tire goo, and worst case you can reach roadside assistance via the SOS button.
FWIW, I haven't had a car with a spare tire in 10 years and I often drive in remote areas. Major tire failure is rare with properly inflated and well maintained quality tires. They don't just fail. Most people's spare tires are deflated by the time they need them. The Tirefit kit has a compressor, so you can periodically air it up and hopefully seal with the tire goo, and worst case you can reach roadside assistance via the SOS button.
I agree and I hope I don't jinx myself by saying this, but the last tire I had to change on the side of a highway was in 2008.
And even then, it ended up being my own fault. I had recently went with aftermarket wheels and tires, the rears were too wide and the inner sidewalls were rubbing and caused a blowout.
FWIW, I haven't had a car with a spare tire in 10 years and I often drive in remote areas. Major tire failure is rare with properly inflated and well maintained quality tires. They don't just fail. Most people's spare tires are deflated by the time they need them. The Tirefit kit has a compressor, so you can periodically air it up and hopefully seal with the tire goo, and worst case you can reach roadside assistance via the SOS button.
I agree properly inflated quality tires don't fail, but road hazards are a reality. S**t happens. And I guess I'm not most people, I check the spare tire pressure at least twice a year.
I’ve used the spare in my w212 three times.
its easier to spend 5 minutes putting the spare on and continuing with my day then waiting for a tow or assistance.
Fix a flat wouldn’t helped me any of the times. Bent rims, delaminating tires, etc.
I love spare tires.
This one went to zero within a minute just enough time to exit the highway and roll into a Wendy’s for a pit stop:
Last edited by I.T. Guy; May 22, 2023 at 07:05 PM.
I agree properly inflated quality tires don't fail, but road hazards are a reality. S**t happens. And I guess I'm not most people, I check the spare tire pressure at least twice a year.
Ivan MacKenzie.
I consider myself quite unlucky when it comes to picking up screws and nails, so I'm no stranger to road hazards. In fact both my rear tires recently had a puncture only days apart. I caught both the next day shortly after driving off and noticing that one tire is 2 psi low. I pretty much have my instrument cluster configured as shown below at all times, so I get an instant health check seeing the pressures and temperatures at all times. Anything out of the ordinary will be caught early before it becomes a bigger issue.
I still think that unless one has a habit of bombing through potholes, major damage is unlikely. There's got to be a story to that tire above. That looks like it was rubbing or something. If the roads are so bad that a blowout is likely then it's perhaps time to admit that an AMG with 20+ inch low profile tires isn't the right car.
Last edited by superswiss; May 22, 2023 at 07:22 PM.
Hi everyone, new to the forums here so sorry if there is already a post like this.
My wife and I are in the market for a new car and I’ve always been a Mercedes guy. I’ve had a 2014 Forester XT for the last 6 years and have enjoyed it.
I am looking at a 2020 E63s as our fun car and to take on road trips (still keeping the forester as a daily).
I was wondering what current openers think about this car and what are some major concerns or issues you guys have had to deal with.
doesn't sound like you'll put many miles on it annually so this lowers any risk as well as you're keeping the super reliable trusty Suburu.
You'll always have a ride for the growing family, and you'll not worry if the 63 is in the shop for whatever issue.
Plus you won't burn through brakes and wear and tear maintenance etc since it'll likely see low miles.
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