C&D: V-8 to Return to Mercedes-AMG C-Class and E-Class Models by 2026
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This sounds like pure speculation and would reflect poorly on the brand that they would do such an extreme about-face after just updating the new C63s with the four popper motor and also marketing the last V8 “final edition” cars of their generation, in my opinion. It just cheapens everything for those customers who bought the new C’s and final edition E’s. Seems like a drastic reversal to me.
Speaking hypothetically, if they do bring out a hybrid V8 version, I echo the concerns folks have about the weight and complexity penalty. That and that interior is horrible. I get ADHD just looking at all those screens. And man do I hate the “digital vent controls.”
Until there is final word directly from MB on this, I reserve the right to be skeptical of this news.
Speaking hypothetically, if they do bring out a hybrid V8 version, I echo the concerns folks have about the weight and complexity penalty. That and that interior is horrible. I get ADHD just looking at all those screens. And man do I hate the “digital vent controls.”
Until there is final word directly from MB on this, I reserve the right to be skeptical of this news.
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And regarding the new C63 and lack of orders, I’m sure the new price point isn’t helping to sell it either.
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So I guess the Final Edition C63S isn't really a Final Edition. I saw this one at Mercedes of Naperville, IL. Will the ridiculous markups disappear?
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I just saw one at the MB dealer in Mechanicsburg, PA. No ADM or markup on that one, and basically the same sticker price. We bought a GLS450 there and I would highly recommend them if you're shopping for a car. No ties to the dealership. They just treated us very well. Much better than my "home" dealership that we;ve been going to for years.
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Just a reminder that this is CONJECTURE. That's it. Most are getting too excited, on & off this forum, imho. This is speculation. We have no idea whether they'll actually end up doing this or not. I'm more than happy to be proven wrong though. I simply read the same article as everyone else and it's just two senior engineers postulating.
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I don’t disagree with your point, friend. My point was that I was planning on waiting until an official announcement was made because this just seems like such a pie in the face moment for this brand. It almost seems humiliating because they so grossly miscalculated their own customer base with this new powertrain and roll out.
And regarding the new C63 and lack of orders, I’m sure the new price point isn’t helping to sell it either.
And regarding the new C63 and lack of orders, I’m sure the new price point isn’t helping to sell it either.
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$100k for a 2 liter 4 banger is just hard to swallow. I'm hearing that the M177 doesn't even fit in the engine bay of the W206, so where do they go from here? I think best scenario is that the C63 gets a 6 cylinder of some sort, and the E goes back to the V8. If you think the current C63 is a slaughter from a sales standpoint, wait for the W214.
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$100k for a 2 liter 4 banger is just hard to swallow. I'm hearing that the M177 doesn't even fit in the engine bay of the W206, so where do they go from here? I think best scenario is that the C63 gets a 6 cylinder of some sort, and the E goes back to the V8. If you think the current C63 is a slaughter from a sales standpoint, wait for the W214.
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I definitely think this is crazy speculation. Perhaps they might make another Black Series or something with a V8 (and a $200k price tag), but I doubt they'd do such an about face on the future of the C63. Probably just waiting to ride out this generation and go all electric in the next one.
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I didn't realize they were killing the V8. Got on the website to build and price a '23 E63 Wagon, called my guy to order one and stepped barefoot into a giant pile of disappointment. Got excited when I read that the V8 might come back but then the very next day I read a Mercedes development person shot that down with prejudice.
They killed the V12 and now the V8 - Mercedes officially no longer sells anything I want or need. The regular E series wagon might have been tolerable if they hadn't made it look like a Subaru Outback with the ridiculous rubber fenders. I have zero interest in EVs or hybrids and I'm not willing to risk the other cars I have by parking a potential lithium fire in or near the same structure. It's like Mercedes have decided to show customers like me the door.
https://www.motor1.com/news/681625/a...c63-e63-rumor/
They killed the V12 and now the V8 - Mercedes officially no longer sells anything I want or need. The regular E series wagon might have been tolerable if they hadn't made it look like a Subaru Outback with the ridiculous rubber fenders. I have zero interest in EVs or hybrids and I'm not willing to risk the other cars I have by parking a potential lithium fire in or near the same structure. It's like Mercedes have decided to show customers like me the door.
https://www.motor1.com/news/681625/a...c63-e63-rumor/
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I didn't realize they were killing the V8. Got on the website to build and price a '23 E63 Wagon, called my guy to order one and stepped barefoot into a giant pile of disappointment. Got excited when I read that the V8 might come back but then the very next day I read a Mercedes development person shot that down with prejudice.
They killed the V12 and now the V8 - Mercedes officially no longer sells anything I want or need. The regular E series wagon might have been tolerable if they hadn't made it look like a Subaru Outback with the ridiculous rubber fenders. I have zero interest in EVs or hybrids and I'm not willing to risk the other cars I have by parking a potential lithium fire in or near the same structure. It's like Mercedes have decided to show customers like me the door.
https://www.motor1.com/news/681625/a...c63-e63-rumor/
They killed the V12 and now the V8 - Mercedes officially no longer sells anything I want or need. The regular E series wagon might have been tolerable if they hadn't made it look like a Subaru Outback with the ridiculous rubber fenders. I have zero interest in EVs or hybrids and I'm not willing to risk the other cars I have by parking a potential lithium fire in or near the same structure. It's like Mercedes have decided to show customers like me the door.
https://www.motor1.com/news/681625/a...c63-e63-rumor/
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Mercedes Won't Bring Back The V8 For AMG C63, E63 After All: Report (motor1.com)
maybe its time to switch . . .
BMW M5 Touring Spied Blitzing The Nurburgring With Hybrid V8 Powertrain (motor1.com)
maybe its time to switch . . .
BMW M5 Touring Spied Blitzing The Nurburgring With Hybrid V8 Powertrain (motor1.com)
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I would guess that all of the US non-FE wagons have been assigned and delivered (except for one). There were only 9 in the original allocation and no more appeared. No 2022 wagons exist either. That leaves you with resale units at this juncture.
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21 E63s wagon
I didn't realize they were killing the V8. Got on the website to build and price a '23 E63 Wagon, called my guy to order one and stepped barefoot into a giant pile of disappointment. Got excited when I read that the V8 might come back but then the very next day I read a Mercedes development person shot that down with prejudice.
They killed the V12 and now the V8 - Mercedes officially no longer sells anything I want or need. The regular E series wagon might have been tolerable if they hadn't made it look like a Subaru Outback with the ridiculous rubber fenders. I have zero interest in EVs or hybrids and I'm not willing to risk the other cars I have by parking a potential lithium fire in or near the same structure. It's like Mercedes have decided to show customers like me the door.
https://www.motor1.com/news/681625/a...c63-e63-rumor/
They killed the V12 and now the V8 - Mercedes officially no longer sells anything I want or need. The regular E series wagon might have been tolerable if they hadn't made it look like a Subaru Outback with the ridiculous rubber fenders. I have zero interest in EVs or hybrids and I'm not willing to risk the other cars I have by parking a potential lithium fire in or near the same structure. It's like Mercedes have decided to show customers like me the door.
https://www.motor1.com/news/681625/a...c63-e63-rumor/
Will be happy to be proven wrong though.
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https://www.carscoops.com/2023/08/me...er-in-germany/
As mentioned in the earlier posts on the new C63S ugly sales order .....
As mentioned in the earlier posts on the new C63S ugly sales order .....
