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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 11:05 AM
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So my 2021 E63s is due for a “B” service. At least, that’s what I think it is. Besides new oil and filter, is there anything else that’s really recommended at this interval? I’m at 14k miles now. My dealer has three packages: economy, preferred and premium and they all seem like garbage add ons. The add ons include everything from alignments to changing windshield wipers, to “AC evap cleaning” and sunroof maintenance. At this particular dealer, the cost is ranging from $400-900. The $900 includes everything including the AC service and sunroof maintenance. None of the services includes brake fluid service which is $230.00 and really the only thing I am thinking about adding on.

TLDR: besides oil and filter, do you folks recommend anything else? How about brake fluid service? Whats a reasonable charge for the B service? The brake fluid service is a separate charge at $230 and is “recommended” to be done at 2 years.

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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 11:13 AM
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by mileage, brake fluid change may seem a bit too early. If you have your car for about 2 yrs from in service date, then it is a good idea to have it done before winter sets in.

Other than that, in cabin filters are the other item to change out if you like.

Brake service can be considered as well. Just have the pads cleaned and calipers serviced.
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Service B should include a brake flush. If the service is done by mileage then it can be a little early for a brake flush as said, but if you are doing the service time based, then the B services are every 2 years, which is when the brake flush should be done. The first A and B services are fairly straight forward, but at subsequent services the transmission and rear differential are due at regular intervals. I had the prepaid maintenance package and they do wipers, oil, filter and cabin filters as part of each service and then the additional pieces such as brake fluid, transmission and differential during the appropriate services. Not every A and B service is the same, they get numbered, A, B, then A1 and B1, etc. Skip any add-on crap they try to upsell. I've used up all the prepaid services now, so I'll have to figure out what I wanna do for the next one.

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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 01:20 PM
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I believe changing brake fluid is not covered under any Service A or B. It is an extra cost item.
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I believe changing brake fluid is not covered under any Service A or B. It is an extra cost item.
Well, it's on the checklist for Service B, so it better be included. I don't have the official checklist handy, but here I found it on a dealer's website.

https://www.mercedesbenzofstpaul.com...ar-st-paul-mn/
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Well, it's on the checklist for Service B, so it better be included. I don't have the official checklist handy, but here I found it on a dealer's website.

https://www.mercedesbenzofstpaul.com...ar-st-paul-mn/
So apparently my dealer is garbage (just the “packages” they advertise) because they list brake fluid exchange as a separate add on charge that’s not included in their three packages.


There is nothing under any of the three packages that lists brake fluid exchange as something that’s included.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 01:59 PM
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This is the most expensive package they offer. It includes an oil change which isn’t captured within this screenshot.

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I am in Canada. Brake fluid change has always been an extra cost item. Service A & B have lots of check this & that. So, I would think US dealers would be consistent as well in charging that as extra.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bobblehead
I am in Canada. Brake fluid change has always been an extra cost item. Service A & B have lots of check this & that. So, I would think US dealers would be consistent as well in charging that as extra.
So I called a different dealership and this one does include brake system flush along with windshield wipers, air cabin filter, oil and filter topping off fluids and servicing the sunroof and tire rotation all for $1100. Wondering if it’s just better to do some of this stuff piecemeal for around 40 per cent of the charge? Some of the stuff seems very superfluous.

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Usually dealer prices each item cheaper when bundled together. I'm due for B service too at 9000mi. Going to have them do oil/filter change, brake fluid flush, and the included free miscellaneous stuff like topping off wiper fluid and whatever multi-point inspection is. The cabin filter and pre-filter I'll do myself, and maybe engine air filter too.

$110 is pretty cheap for brake fluid flush. B service costs me over $200 more than A service, and brake fluid flush is the only difference.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by taphil
Usually dealer prices each item cheaper when bundled together. I'm due for B service too at 9000mi. Going to have them do oil/filter change, brake fluid flush, and the included free miscellaneous stuff like topping off wiper fluid and whatever multi-point inspection is. The cabin filter and pre-filter I'll do myself, and maybe engine air filter too.

$110 is pretty cheap for brake fluid flush. B service costs me over $200 more than A service, and brake fluid flush is the only difference.
Sorry, I left out a 0. It’s $1100 for the B service, not $110. I only wish it were $110!
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 03:13 PM
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Geez.

I just looked at my old receipts. The first B service on my GLC43 was $330. The first really expensive service is the B service plus transmission fluid change, but that was still under $900.

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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 03:25 PM
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Sorry, I left out a 0. It’s $1100 for the B service, not $110. I only wish it were $110!
OMG! Not worth it. Do the piece work.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 03:41 PM
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I just flushed the brakes on three of my cars. Required two quarts of brake fluid at $9 each from O'Reilly, but I had plenty left over.

I'd been lax on doing it for my F-250 which I don't drive that much these days, and as a result the accumulated gunk in the lines caused a clog near the master cylinder and cost me a bit to be repaired. Could have done it myself I suppose, but didn't feel like getting into it. But this triggered me to get with the program and do the other cars which were all a bit over due as well.

Super easy and while I was at it I also replaced the brakes on my Honda mini-van which were getting a bit worn. Hardest part was getting my wife or daughters to come to the garage and spend a few minute pressing the peddle for me .

At shop rates and paying huge mark-up on the brake fluid, $220 is probably not crazy at a Mercedes dealer. Jiffy Lube or some other similar outfit will charge less than $150 I'd bet, but I wouldn't let them near my CCBs.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 04:16 PM
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Oh man, $1100 is waaay to much for those 2 things.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperion667
Oh man, $1100 is waaay to much for those 2 things.
To be fair, the B service includes most of these things listed below. I still think it’s way too damn much because most of it stuff that anyone can do. It also includes tire rotation, which I don’t need since my winter set is about to go on. I’ll leave it listed here so hopefully anyone who needs this info can find it later. Just to specify again for future reference, it costs $1100.
  • Mercedes-Benz Synthetic Motor Oil Replacement
  • Replace Genuine Mercedes-Benz Oil Filter
  • All fluid level checks and corrections are dependent on factory-recommended service intervals for your vehicle’s year and model
  • Tire inflation check and correction
  • Brake component inspection
  • Reset maintenance counter
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  • Tire inflation check and correction*
  • Wiper blade replacement*
  • Replace air condition cabin filter
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Old Oct 26, 2023 | 05:07 AM
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B service = A service + (see service/maintenance manual for your model and year car)
Mercedes Service & Maintenance | Mercedes-Benz USA (mbusa.com)
from above website these add ons = replace Cabin filter + Replace brake fluid.

you need to get something like attached MBUSA Doc for your car from MB (I got this one on this forum somewhere)


NOt a huge difference and why they charge double is crazy at some dealerships.
FYI mine is A = $199
B = $299

Which is not bad figuring supplies just for an oil change average price is about $75-90.

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I took my 2023 E53 in for the first 10k service. They wanted $498. When I asked what they did over and above the oil change they said they checked filters, added a fuel additive ($40 charge and it's just the Textron you can buy for $12 at any auto parts store), and windshield wiper additive. If any filters need to be changed that's extra. So I told them just do the oil change ($263 with tax!!!).
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So apparently my dealer is garbage (just the “packages” they advertise) because they list brake fluid exchange as a separate add on charge that’s not included in their three packages.


There is nothing under any of the three packages that lists brake fluid exchange as something that’s included.
Is this Westwood Mass? That dealership is one of the worst places I ever dealt with. I bought my E63s there earlier this year in February as a CPO certified vehicle. I am so lucky that alot of close friends of mine work locally at mercedes where I live. They found out that Westwood never completed the 30k transmission service on the car, the differential service, sold me a car with no passenger floormat, a missing hanger that keeps the shade up on the passenger window , an ISOFIX cover was missing, the cabin filters weren't changed, and the last time they were changed the dash panel was broken and someone tried to fix it with adhesive, the car later wouldn't start and they found the module in the back trunk to be full of corrosion.
How could this car be passed as a CPO is beyond me. My friend fixed the module in the trunk and his dealership wrote it up as a courtesy. I contacted Mercedes corporate about the other issues and Westwood had to fork over a check for all the services and missing components. Was close to $1500.
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Is this Westwood Mass? That dealership is one of the worst places I ever dealt with. I bought my E63s there earlier this year in February as a CPO certified vehicle. I am so lucky that alot of close friends of mine work locally at mercedes where I live. They found out that Westwood never completed the 30k transmission service on the car, the differential service, sold me a car with no passenger floormat, a missing hanger that keeps the shade up on the passenger window , an ISOFIX cover was missing, the cabin filters weren't changed, and the last time they were changed the dash panel was broken and someone tried to fix it with adhesive, the car later wouldn't start and they found the module in the back trunk to be full of corrosion.
How could this car be passed as a CPO is beyond me. My friend fixed the module in the trunk and his dealership wrote it up as a courtesy. I contacted Mercedes corporate about the other issues and Westwood had to fork over a check for all the services and missing components. Was close to $1500.
CPO is a scam to get more money out of people as is “top tier gas”
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CPO is a scam to get more money out of people as is “top tier gas”
Just wondering if you use premium or regular gas in your AMG?
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Originally Posted by Evolving_e63
Is this Westwood Mass? That dealership is one of the worst places I ever dealt with. I bought my E63s there earlier this year in February as a CPO certified vehicle. I am so lucky that alot of close friends of mine work locally at mercedes where I live. They found out that Westwood never completed the 30k transmission service on the car, the differential service, sold me a car with no passenger floormat, a missing hanger that keeps the shade up on the passenger window , an ISOFIX cover was missing, the cabin filters weren't changed, and the last time they were changed the dash panel was broken and someone tried to fix it with adhesive, the car later wouldn't start and they found the module in the back trunk to be full of corrosion.
How could this car be passed as a CPO is beyond me. My friend fixed the module in the trunk and his dealership wrote it up as a courtesy. I contacted Mercedes corporate about the other issues and Westwood had to fork over a check for all the services and missing components. Was close to $1500.
It is. It’s super close to where I live, and yeah, it’s a garbage dealership. But then again, so are most dealerships especially in Westwood area. Hell, the dealership I bought the car in Maine was crap too. I would prefer to go MB of Boston, but it’s less convenient for me. Maybe I’ll head down that way based on your story because it makes them look even worse. If only we could buy cars directly from the manufacturer…
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Just wondering if you use premium or regular gas in your AMG?
I use highest octane fuel in all of my vehicles. I won’t go out of my way to use “top tier gas” additive bs scam though. I prefer gas stations that are busy and go through a lot of fuel as I know it’ll be fresh.
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Originally Posted by ska597
Hi all,

So my 2021 E63s is due for a “B” service. At least, that’s what I think it is. Besides new oil and filter, is there anything else that’s really recommended at this interval? I’m at 14k miles now. My dealer has three packages: economy, preferred and premium and they all seem like garbage add ons. The add ons include everything from alignments to changing windshield wipers, to “AC evap cleaning” and sunroof maintenance. At this particular dealer, the cost is ranging from $400-900. The $900 includes everything including the AC service and sunroof maintenance. None of the services includes brake fluid service which is $230.00 and really the only thing I am thinking about adding on.

TLDR: besides oil and filter, do you folks recommend anything else? How about brake fluid service? Whats a reasonable charge for the B service? The brake fluid service is a separate charge at $230 and is “recommended” to be done at 2 years.

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I see that your in Boston area as well.
Westwood and Boston dealers are known to inflate the **** out of the bill. Also, quality of work isn’t guaranteed. Shoot me a message with your Instagram handle, I’ll direct you to the right direction for all of your amg needs.


Goes for anyone within Boston area vacinity.

DO NOT GOTO HANOVER, WESTWOOD, BOSTON stealerships!!!

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South Florida is the same way. The full B2 service down here (incl brake fluid) is north of $1000. Generously, they will top off your blinker fluid as part of the package.

I've got my A3 next year, which is also very pricey as it includes new plugs. I will be shopping that one around, including a couple legit independents...although I won't get too creative with it as I have the factory extended warranty.

I honestly don't recognize the guy in the mirror, taking my car to a dealer (or anyone) for basic services. This is what life, kids and in-warranty vehicles will do to you.
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